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Title: Palin's own 'Climate-gate'
Source: Washington Poat
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... /12/14/AR2009121402712_pf.html
Published: Dec 15, 2009
Author: Eugene Robinson
Post Date: 2009-12-19 15:37:36 by We The People
Keywords: None
Views: 37307
Comments: 224

By Eugene Robinson Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Sarah Palin is such a cold-eyed skeptic about the Copenhagen summit on climate change that it's no surprise she would call on President Obama not to attend. After all, Obama might join other leaders in acknowledging that warming is a "global challenge." He might entertain "opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions." He might even explore ways to "participate in carbon-trading markets."

Oh, wait. Those quotes aren't from some smug Euro-socialist manifesto. They're from an administrative order Palin signed in September 2007, as governor of Alaska, establishing a "sub-Cabinet" of top state officials to develop a strategy for dealing with climate change.

Back then, Palin was the governor of a state where "coastal erosion, thawing permafrost, retreating sea ice, record forest fires, and other changes are affecting, and will continue to affect, the lifestyles and livelihoods of Alaskans," as she wrote. Faced with that reality, she sensibly formed the high-level working group to chart a course of action.

"Climate change is not just an environmental issue," wrote Palin. "It is also a social, cultural, and economic issue important to all Alaskans."

Palin mentioned having created the climate change unit in an op-ed she wrote last week for The Post. What she didn't acknowledge was the contrast between what she says about climate change now and what she said -- and did -- about it as governor of our most at-risk state. When she was in office, Palin treated the issue as serious, complex and worthy of urgent attention. Now that she's the iconic leader of a populist movement that reacts with anger at the slightest whiff of pointy-headed, "one world" intellectualism, she writes as if the idea of seeking ways to mitigate climate change is a crock.

"Alaska's climate is warming," Palin wrote to Alaskans in a July 2008 newsletter. "While there have been warming and cooling trends before, climatologists tell us that the current rate of warming is unprecedented within the time of human civilization. Many experts predict that Alaska, along with our northern latitude neighbors, will warm at a faster pace than any other areas, and the warming will continue for decades."

In her administrative order, Palin instructed the sub-Cabinet group to develop recommendations on "the opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from Alaska sources, including the expanded use of alternative fuels, energy conservation, energy efficiency, renewable energy, land use management, and transportation planning." She also instructed the group to look into "carbon-trading markets."

But in her op-ed last week, Palin -- while acknowledging "natural, cyclical environmental trends" and the possibility that human activity might be contributing to warming -- states flatly that "any potential benefits of proposed emissions reduction policies are far outweighed by their economic costs." What she once called "carbon-trading markets" she now denounces as "the Democrats' cap-and-tax proposal."

Palin cites the "Climate-gate" e-mail scandal as reason enough for the president to skip the Copenhagen summit. I've written about those e-mails and why, despite what skeptics say, they do not begin to prove that climate science is fraudulent, politicized or fundamentally flawed. The most compelling evidence for climate change is found in the Arctic, and Palin has seen it firsthand.

In her 2008 newsletter, Palin mentioned one coastal village, Newtok, that would have to be relocated because of flooding due to the effects of warmer temperatures. Since then, relocation plans have been developed for two more towns, Shishmaref and Kivalina. The Army Corps of Engineers has identified more than 160 villages that are threatened, according to a recent newsletter from Palin's successor, Gov. Sean Parnell. At least 31 are judged to be in "imminent" peril.

In case anyone was wondering, Palin's home town of Wasilla sits at an elevation of 333 feet -- high and dry.

The chairman of the Cabinet working group that Palin assembled to develop a climate change strategy, Larry Hartig, is scheduled to deliver a presentation at Copenhagen. Posted in advance on the Internet, the presentation shows that Alaskans aren't just fretting about the abstract possibility of effects from warming. They're dealing with a real, live situation.

I predict we'll see more artful dodges of this kind from Palin. She made any number of pragmatic, reasonable, smart decisions as governor -- and now, it seems, will be obliged to renounce them all. Her tea-party legions have one answer -- a shouted "No!" -- for every question.

Palin knows better, but she has to fiddle her followers' chosen tune -- not while Rome burns, but while Nome melts.

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#68. To: Ibluafartsky (#50)

An article written by a leftist in the same school as Rachel Maddow and Maureen Dowd and you suck it right on down like a good kool-aid drinker.

Nice! Sorry, but your attempts at deflection away from the substance of the article have failed.

Have you forgotten? These comments ARE PALIN'S OWN WORDS, not comments taken out of context and spun by a leftist news source.

What is the substance? It's right here:

"Oh, wait. Those quotes aren't from some smug Euro-socialist manifesto. They're from an administrative order Palin signed in September 2007, as governor of Alaska, establishing a "sub-Cabinet" of top state officials to develop a strategy for dealing with climate change."

The substance is also Palin's stance on a 'path to citizenship', her adoration and 100% support for John McCain, her support of the bailouts, etc.

The substance is...the woman is not a conservative.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-20   11:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: We The People (#68)

These comments ARE PALIN'S OWN WORDS,

Wow, over 2 years ago as governor!!!! Desperation on the part of the lefties, and you Palinhaters gladly and lustily drinking the kool-aid!

They're from an administrative order Palin signed in September 2007, as governor of Alaska,

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-20   15:50:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Ibluafartsky (#69)

Wow, over 2 years ago as governor!!!!

Desperation on the part of the lefties, and you Palinhaters gladly and lustily drinking the kool-aid!

Was it 2 years ago that she said she 'adores John McCain and supports him 100%"?

Desperation, Palinhaters, gladly and lustily, koolaid, etc are all hyperbole. I don't hate Palin. I just don't support those who lean left.

Bottom line, the woman is no conservative. Anyone who says she is, is either being dishonest or ignorant.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-20   16:09:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: We The People (#70)

Was it 2 years ago that she said she 'adores John McCain and supports him 100%"?

Bottom line, the woman is no conservative. Anyone who says she is, is either being dishonest or ignorant.

Have you ever been married?

Sarah Palin is a conservative. Anyone who says she isn't is a fookin, uninformed ignoramus.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-20   16:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: We The People (#67)

Suggestion for you:

Lose the insults. It shows an incredible amount of frustration, which means that you believe you are losing the debate. Which you already have.

SUGGESTION:

Help me take you seriously.

When you prove that you've attained "reality nirvana," then we can properly exchange ideas and debate without me having to shout up to you in your Ivory Tower.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-20   19:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Mad Dog (#5)

Governor Palin I QUIT SCARES them that much.

That's better...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-21   9:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Liberator (#72)

When you prove that you've attained "reality nirvana,"

You just don't get it do you lib?

Now you're speaking to me about 'reality'. Just up thread you talk about nuances and shades of gray.

You're holding out hope, IN SPITE OF EVERYTHING THE WOMAN HAS SAID OUT OF HER OWN MOUTH, that Palin is just playing the RINO's for chumps and is presenting some grand illusion to gain votes and popularity among conservatives by stating positions that make conservatives cringe.

You're holding out hope that she doesn't 'adore John McCain and support him 100%' in spite of her own words.

You're holding out hope that she doesn't really 'support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants' in spite of her own words.

You're holding out hope that she doesn't support the bailouts, in spite of her own words.

You're holding out hope that she's not hispandering, in spite of her own words.

You're 'just going to have to wait and see' and 'let this all play out' before coming to a conclusion.

And you have the audacity to speak to me about reality?

Now THAT is funny!

We The People  posted on  2009-12-21   9:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: We The People (#70)

Was it 2 years ago that she said she 'adores John McCain and supports him 100%"?

I'm willing to bet that what they say she said isn't exactely what she said. The quote is un-original and I have seen it before.


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mel  posted on  2009-12-21   10:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: mel (#75)

I'm willing to bet that what they say she said isn't exactely what she said. The quote is un-original and I have seen it before.

You'd lose, Mel:

Palin said in the statement to POLITICO: “I am so sorry if people took this silly incident the wrong way. I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago. So much for trying to be incognito."

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-21   12:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: mel (#75)

I'm willing to bet that what they say she said isn't exactely what she said.

Palin said in the statement to POLITICO: “I am so sorry if people took this silly incident the wrong way. I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30699.html

I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection.

http://www.daylife.com/quote/09Br6Cq35C1FL

"I am so sorry if people took this silly incident the wrong way. I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent," she said. AP

http://www.suntimes.com/news/pol...9,CST-NWS-palin19.article

Palin 'brims' with Mac pride

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his re-election.

"As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in DC just a week ago.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nat...yNh6JXi6pKJ#ixzz0aLRFVeMa

Really?

On what issue mel? Just this one where she said she adores McCain and supports him 100%?

Or when she said she supports a path to citizenship?

Or when she said the bailouts were needed and a good idea?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-21   12:23:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: war (#76)

I understand that is the statement Politico claims to have quoted her saying.

I also understand that when reporters quote some people, the quote is not always what was said.


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mel  posted on  2009-12-21   12:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: We The People (#74)

You just don't get it do you lib?

I prefer reality; You prefer delusion - what's not to "get"?

Now you're speaking to me about 'reality'. Just up thread you talk about nuances and shades of gray.

I apologize for the redundancy, but there a few issues within the political realm that can be addressed as "black" or "white" - rhetorically speaking.

You're holding out hope, IN SPITE OF EVERYTHING THE WOMAN HAS SAID OUT OF HER OWN MOUTH, that Palin is just playing the RINO's for chumps and is presenting some grand illusion to gain votes and popularity among conservatives by stating positions that make conservatives cringe.

And while you're still fantasizing about "President Paul," your positions remain ossified regarding Sarah Palin, while characterizing her as a RINO discredits you immediately as an honest observer.

You're holding out hope that she doesn't 'adore John McCain and support him 100%' in spite of her own words.

No - I realy believe what she said; It's a matter of context though; YOU construed her words to mean she's a McCain disciple. Hardly. It's been proven MANY of her views clash with McCain's. But do continue with your delusions...

You're holding out hope that she doesn't really 'support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants' in spite of her own words.

Again, I believe what she said; However in YOUR mind it means "Amnesty." (HINT: Palin's already said 'NO AMNESTY.")

The reality is EVERYONE outside the US potentially has a "path" to US citizenship. You have NO idea what Palin means by mentioning this nebulous "path," and neither does anyone else.

You're holding out hope that she doesn't support the bailouts, in spite of her own words.

Her "own words" admitted ANY support given was based on "The economy will collapse if we don't!" warnings from Dubya and "experts" last year. You also seem to forget she was not privy to the data as actual Senators and members of the House were.

You're holding out hope that she's not hispandering, in spite of her own words.

She softened her tone, true. But since she's NOT a policy-maker, whose lobbyists' pockets is she in? She sure didn't mince words about "NO AMNESTY" - did she?

You're 'just going to have to wait and see' and 'let this all play out' before coming to a conclusion.

And you have the audacity to speak to me about reality?

Now THAT is funny!

So let's wrap this up, shall we?

You believe in Tooth Fairy candidates, thought Ron Paul was the ultimate truth-teller and policy-maker.

You believe in a Grand Conspiracy that Sarah Palin is some kind of globalist plant; After all the non-stop attacks grief she's taken from both the GOP and Dims and media? Chyeah, right.

Her political history in Alaska of fighting the establishment, her refreshing honesty and demeanor, her independent nature, her fundamental understanding of "America", her untainted-DC Onsider status, and her real connection with We-The-People (shame on you for using that handle) is demonstratively and singularly unique in American politics.

It is your prerogative as it is others to hang your hat on this absurd equation:

Palin = RINO = McCain = Bush = 0bama = NWO.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-21   12:43:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Liberator (#79)

You believe in Tooth Fairy candidates

You believe in a Grand Conspiracy that Sarah Palin is some kind of globalist plant

Her political history in Alaska of fighting the establishment, her refreshing honesty and demeanor, her independent nature, her fundamental understanding of "America", her untainted-DC Onsider status, and her real connection with We-The-People (shame on you for using that handle) is demonstratively and singularly unique in American politics.

Good God.

I give up Lib. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

I do enjoy the debates though. Thanks.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-21   12:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: mel (#78)

Do you have any evidence to the contrary. She's very quick to point out when she's been misquoted...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-21   13:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: We The People, mel, war, sneakypete (#77)

"I am so sorry if people took this silly incident the wrong way. I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent," she said. AP

As I asked sneakypete previously, "Have you ever been married?"

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-21   15:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Ibluafartsky (#82)

As I asked sneakypete previously, "Have you ever been married?"

Yeah, you asked me too and I ignored you because your analogy is ridiculous and is in NO way a pass for saying this kind of thing about John McCain, IF you want to be seen as a conservative and not a scumbag, illegal alien loving, neocon, free traitor.

Listen, she said it, she meant it, now you deal with it.

If she's your candidate of choice for 2012, then support her proudly. Even as she stumps for McCain in 2010.

I'll just stand back and laugh and point out your leftist choices.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-21   15:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Ibluafartsky (#82)

Have a great night yukon!

And Merry Christmas!

We The People  posted on  2009-12-21   15:22:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: We The People (#83)

Listen, she said it, she meant it,

Yeah, you asked me too and I ignored you

If she's your candidate of choice for 2012,

Yeah, so why are there so many divorces?

You did so it means you're either divorced or a fag.

If she is even a candidate. But hey, don't allow your misogyny to spoil your Holiday! 2012 is a long way off.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-21   15:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: We The People (#84)

Have a great night yukon!

Night? Where is it now night in the US? Where are you posting from, a muslim country?

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-21   15:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: war (#81)

Do you have any evidence to the contrary. She's very quick to point out when she's been misquoted...

Unlike some - I don't spend every moment awake following Sarah's every move. I've heard the McCain part of that quote before - when she was his running mate. So no, I don't have any evidence one way or the other. I do know some of the things she has said about McCain and not agreeing with him 100% of the time.

I do have evidence that the media tends to misquote, misinterpret, and take out of context on a regular basis.

Why people want to examine her every word is beyond me. Sometimes we say things just to be polite, even if it's not exactly how we feel. I'm sure you've told your wife she looks great in something you thought she looked ridiculous in.


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mel  posted on  2009-12-21   18:50:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Ibluafartsky (#82)

As I asked sneakypete previously, "Have you ever been married?"

And it might have been more appropriate to have asked "Have you ever been divorced?" because she is no longer McLunatic's partner.

She just seems to be a fan nowadays.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-21   19:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: mel (#87)

I've heard the McCain part of that quote before - when she was his running mate.

She said what I provided AFTER the campaign was over.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-22   8:25:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Ibluafartsky (#82)

As I asked sneakypete previously, "Have you ever been married?"

Yep.

Have YOU ever had a banana in yer tailpipe?

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-22   8:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: war (#89)

She said what I provided AFTER the campaign was over.

Allegedly - according to Politico - You'll have to forgive me if I have trouble believing everything I hear in the media. In fact, remember a couple of people had stated Obama was born in different places - according to the media. IS that true too since the media said so? Didn't think so. Why is it such a big deal anyway?


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mel  posted on  2009-12-22   11:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: mel (#91)

In fact, remember a couple of people had stated Obama was born in different places - according to the media.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

There's no reason to disbelieve one set of reporting over an issue by one outlet because of the misreporting of another.

Then again, Palinites had the same issue with what The Virgin Sarah said to both Gibson and Couric even in the face of a video record - not that you were one of them.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-22   11:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: war (#92)

Then again, Palinites had the same issue with

Come on war, lets be fair.

Then again, Palinites Palintards had the same issue with....

There, I fixed it for you.

Anyone claiming to be a conservative, yet supporting an obvious neoconservative is definitely a 'tard'.

Turnabout IS fair play after all.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-22   11:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: war (#92)

There's no reason to disbelieve one set of reporting over an issue by one outlet because of the misreporting of another.

Thank you, Dan Rather.

(do you ever read your own posts?)

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-22   12:04:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: We The People (#93)

And there he is...like a moth drawn to the flame.

LOL...

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-22   12:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Liberator (#94)

What Rather reported was never disputed by boy Blunder.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-22   13:32:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: war (#92)

You believe Politico never misreports. I know better. Why is it such a big deal anyway?


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mel  posted on  2009-12-22   13:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: mel (#97)

You believe Politico never misreports.

I've stated that belief where?

Why is it such a big deal anyway?

It isn't to me...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-22   14:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Liberator (#95)

And there he is...like a moth drawn to the flame.

Yeah?

And there you are too.

So.......shall I get back to embarrassing you by pointing out that you and your fav candidate for 2012 are not conservative?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-22   14:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: war (#90)

Have YOU ever had a banana in yer tailpipe?

No, I'm not a fag, pony boy.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   15:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Bickus Dickus (#14)

You must be really lonely dickus lickus.

You play with dolls and stuffed toys?

Figures.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   16:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: We The People (#15)

Weeps you really crack me up!

YOU and the rest of your paulTARD kin don't get to define "Conservatism" or decide who is or is not a Conservative.

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUICK! get your meds adjusted fool.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   16:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: sneakypete (#24)

*Hypocrisy and Hypocrites*

Did you make sure that you pinged yourself?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   16:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Mad Dog (#101)

I'm sure it will fit right in with the rest of your Sarah dolls.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2009-12-26   16:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: sneakypete (#29)

While the messiah "king" obammy is busy KILLING America all day EVERY day, this specious bullsh!t is what the jealous paulTARD weeps and his ilk find "important". Did she say or write those things,or not?

Yes,or no?

Attacking Ron Paul ain't going to bail you out on this one. He has nothing to do with this unless you think he has his hand up her butt and is pulling her strings.

DID Palin say or write these things or not?

I don't know or F ing care.

I quit "fact checking" all of the lies and spins that you and your ilk spread about Governor Palin, because EVERYONE of them turned out to be nothing but a LIE or a SPIN or a HALF TRUTH.

I don't have the desire to correct PDS insane morons who I was shocked to understand now includes you on this matter.

I'm not trying to bail anyone out with the TRUTH about your failed wee hero ronniePaulie pete, it is a "koan" it is an object lesson in you paulTARD'S hypocrisy and inability to take even an instant of the treatment that Governor Palin gets all day everyday from credulous hypocrites and frauds such as YOU.

You are pitiful.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   16:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Mad Dog, sneakypete (#105)

(sp)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(md) I don't know or F ing care.

Priceless.

______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   16:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Bickus Dickus (#104)

Little dick, your posts are so much like cuntess floyds!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-26   16:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Bickus Dickus (#104)

I'm sure it will fit right in with the rest of your Sarah dolls.

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None of us are interested in your perversions dickus lickus.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   16:52:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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