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Title: Palin's own 'Climate-gate'
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URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... /12/14/AR2009121402712_pf.html
Published: Dec 15, 2009
Author: Eugene Robinson
Post Date: 2009-12-19 15:37:36 by We The People
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Views: 37306
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By Eugene Robinson Tuesday, December 15, 2009 Sarah Palin is such a cold-eyed skeptic about the Copenhagen summit on climate change that it's no surprise she would call on President Obama not to attend. After all, Obama might join other leaders in acknowledging that warming is a "global challenge." He might entertain "opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions." He might even explore ways to "participate in carbon-trading markets." Oh, wait. Those quotes aren't from some smug Euro-socialist manifesto. They're from an administrative order Palin signed in September 2007, as governor of Alaska, establishing a "sub-Cabinet" of top state officials to develop a strategy for dealing with climate change. Back then, Palin was the governor of a state where "coastal erosion, thawing permafrost, retreating sea ice, record forest fires, and other changes are affecting, and will continue to affect, the lifestyles and livelihoods of Alaskans," as she wrote. Faced with that reality, she sensibly formed the high-level working group to chart a course of action. "Climate change is not just an environmental issue," wrote Palin. "It is also a social, cultural, and economic issue important to all Alaskans." Palin mentioned having created the climate change unit in an op-ed she wrote last week for The Post. What she didn't acknowledge was the contrast between what she says about climate change now and what she said -- and did -- about it as governor of our most at-risk state. When she was in office, Palin treated the issue as serious, complex and worthy of urgent attention. Now that she's the iconic leader of a populist movement that reacts with anger at the slightest whiff of pointy-headed, "one world" intellectualism, she writes as if the idea of seeking ways to mitigate climate change is a crock. "Alaska's climate is warming," Palin wrote to Alaskans in a July 2008 newsletter. "While there have been warming and cooling trends before, climatologists tell us that the current rate of warming is unprecedented within the time of human civilization. Many experts predict that Alaska, along with our northern latitude neighbors, will warm at a faster pace than any other areas, and the warming will continue for decades." In her administrative order, Palin instructed the sub-Cabinet group to develop recommendations on "the opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from Alaska sources, including the expanded use of alternative fuels, energy conservation, energy efficiency, renewable energy, land use management, and transportation planning." She also instructed the group to look into "carbon-trading markets." But in her op-ed last week, Palin -- while acknowledging "natural, cyclical environmental trends" and the possibility that human activity might be contributing to warming -- states flatly that "any potential benefits of proposed emissions reduction policies are far outweighed by their economic costs." What she once called "carbon-trading markets" she now denounces as "the Democrats' cap-and-tax proposal." Palin cites the "Climate-gate" e-mail scandal as reason enough for the president to skip the Copenhagen summit. I've written about those e-mails and why, despite what skeptics say, they do not begin to prove that climate science is fraudulent, politicized or fundamentally flawed. The most compelling evidence for climate change is found in the Arctic, and Palin has seen it firsthand. In her 2008 newsletter, Palin mentioned one coastal village, Newtok, that would have to be relocated because of flooding due to the effects of warmer temperatures. Since then, relocation plans have been developed for two more towns, Shishmaref and Kivalina. The Army Corps of Engineers has identified more than 160 villages that are threatened, according to a recent newsletter from Palin's successor, Gov. Sean Parnell. At least 31 are judged to be in "imminent" peril. In case anyone was wondering, Palin's home town of Wasilla sits at an elevation of 333 feet -- high and dry. The chairman of the Cabinet working group that Palin assembled to develop a climate change strategy, Larry Hartig, is scheduled to deliver a presentation at Copenhagen. Posted in advance on the Internet, the presentation shows that Alaskans aren't just fretting about the abstract possibility of effects from warming. They're dealing with a real, live situation. I predict we'll see more artful dodges of this kind from Palin. She made any number of pragmatic, reasonable, smart decisions as governor -- and now, it seems, will be obliged to renounce them all. Her tea-party legions have one answer -- a shouted "No!" -- for every question. Palin knows better, but she has to fiddle her followers' chosen tune -- not while Rome burns, but while Nome melts.
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#27. To: Fred Mertz (#4)
I didn't turn on her. She turned on me. Fred,you have been watching me post for around 10 years now. Why do you still doubt that I put America and what I consider to be best for America first,above all else?
We iz da peep-pulls..." Sorry Skydrifter, I don't know Ebonics.
----------------------------------------------------------- Did she say or write those things,or not? Yes,or no? Attacking Ron Paul ain't going to bail you out on this one. He has nothing to do with this unless you think he has his hand up her butt and is pulling her strings. DID Palin say or write these things or not?
“Why is Governor Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies in Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits and unemployment? Perhaps he will recall that I live in our nation’s only Arctic state and that I was among the first governors to create a sub-cabinet to deal specifically with climate change. While I and all Alaskans witness the impacts of changes in weather patterns firsthand, I have repeatedly said that we can’t primarily blame man’s activities for those changes. And while I did look for practical responses to those changes, what I didn’t do was hamstring Alaska’s job creators with burdensome regulations so that I could act “greener than thou” when talking to reporters. - Sarah Palin
----------------------------------------------------------- Really? Are you saying she DID write and say those things,but that she has learned and "evolved" since then? If you are,I'd really like to see the press conference or the transcripts of her refuting her earlier words. Surely you have the URL's for these important pieces of information that will clear her good name and reputation?
Again as I correctly predicted: This thread will be of greater issue than Obamacare Becasue the site is filled with DNC posters that pose as Patriots® and Constitutionalists™.
----------------------------------------------------------- Her focus has changed from being a Sate Gov. Learning seems foreign to you Skydrifter.
----------------------------------------------------------- What are you saying? Do you think Palin said what she said in order to give Bubba Barry political cover by shifting the focus of the voters to her? Or are you one of the ones that don't believe your lying eyes and your lying ears?
Not ONE Patriot® or Constitutionalists on this thread cares: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5522 Telling us who they work for :ACORN.
----------------------------------------------------------- And you support Palin on open borders. What's the difference? Why is Paul evil for voting for open borders (it's not that simple and you know it),yet it's peachy-keen for Palin to go on Telemundo and do everything but wave Pom Poms for the La Raza crowd?
At least try and look like a conservative. Once a month post something bad about Obama. Just once a month ACRON Worker.
----------------------------------------------------------- I don't know Ebonics. You have the incredible stupidity to call ME skydrifter???? No wonder you are a blind RINO and Palin supporter. You are too stupid to be anything else.
“Why is Governor Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies in Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits and unemployment? Perhaps he will recall that I live in our nation’s only Arctic state and that I was among the first governors to create a sub-cabinet to deal specifically with climate change. While I and all Alaskans witness the impacts of changes in weather patterns firsthand, I have repeatedly said that we can’t primarily blame man’s activities for those changes. And while I did look for practical responses to those changes, what I didn’t do was hamstring Alaska’s job creators with burdensome regulations so that I could act “greener than thou” when talking to reporters. - Sarah Palin Thank you for that quote,but you still did not answer my questions. DID SHE OR DID SHE NOT SAY OR WRITE THOSE THINGS?
Yes,and most of them are RINO's.
Yes,it has. Now she wants to be a RINO President. Learning seems foreign to you Skydrifter. And you are too fucking stupid to learn if you think I'm skydrifter.
I had stated earlier in the thread that she 100% did say those things. That was her saying those things. Sarah said those things. Those are Sarah positions, as regional govenor of a state. One had better not employ regional needs to govern and nation that's the size of the US. ---- Can you post to 6 posts in which you attack Obama or any DNC member? You are a 100% fraud Sky drifter - 100% phony.
----------------------------------------------------------- Swallowed You're a fookin faggot? Bragging or complaining?
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
I AM a conservative,retard. I don't have to pretend like you,Boy Jorge,John McLunatic,or Palin. Once a month post something bad about Obama. Just once a month ACRON Worker. Good catch! I've never posted anything critical of Barry. Why did I think I could outsmart somebody with your powers of reason and observation?
ahh you lose with your emo meltdown Skydrifter - You did better with Ebonics.
----------------------------------------------------------- I would never believe a word you post, little dickus. I figured you out with your first post.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
PLEASE don't quit posting. I want you to be a poster boy for the type of "intellect" that backs Palin.
No evidence exists at this board that you dislike the DNC. Link to 6 posts in which you find any fault with a DNC member. Fraud- 100%. Stick with your party. They will get you: money, food,health care, much needed medications and next cars.
----------------------------------------------------------- You are the Intellect that gave Obama victory! It's no wonder you know ebonics so well.
----------------------------------------------------------- the substance of this article, An article written by a leftist in the same school as Rachel Maddow and Maureen Dowd and you suck it right on down like a good kool-aid drinker. What is the substance?
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Like a good comrade they work hard to define speech. I challenge ANYONE to find 5 posts in which Wee the People finds fault with the DNC. ANYONE.
----------------------------------------------------------- No evidence exists at this board that you're not a child molester. Link to 6 posts to prove otherwise. God, Whitey, you are dumb. No wonder Goldi likes you.
Right after you present the one where you claim she claims she supports amnesty for all. "While I and all Alaskans witness the impacts of changes in weather patterns firsthand, I have repeatedly said that we can’t primarily blame man’s activities for those changes. " Sarah Palin
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
When LP gets back up you'll find a few hundred anti Child Porn and Child threads. IF discussion of Child Porn and or Child Molestation were discussed Topics here, you'd find me. Try again. http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5524
----------------------------------------------------------- I had stated earlier in the thread that she 100% did say those things. My apologies. I missed that. That was her saying those things. Sarah said those things. Those are Sarah positions, as regional govenor of a state. Ok,so was she lying then,or is she lying now? One had better not employ regional needs to govern and nation that's the size of the US. ---- You mean her beliefs are dependent on which office she is running for? Can you post to 6 posts in which you attack Obama or any DNC member? Ya got me! What gave me away? You are a 100% fraud Sky drifter - 100% phony. Says the RINO that likes to pretend he is a Independent,and spent 8 years with his nose buried up Boy Jorge's ass.
PLEASE keep bragging all over the internet about being one of Palin's biggest supporters.
It's no wonder you know ebonics so well. Admit it. You would pay him for the honor of blowing him if he had a R behind his name.
You just don't get it, do you? No one here has to prove anything to you, ever.
Ok,Buckwheat,so why don't YOU tell us all what "a path to citizenship for undocumented workers" means?
Right after you present the one where you claim she claims she supports amnesty for all. Why can't you post it?
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
I personally believe in climate change. I've hugged more Bunnies that Al Gore could ever dream of. And drive a '94 Miata, take normal air fares and not an SUV or a private jet. But believe is the proper word as it cannot be proven. So why take a chance that could alter the entire ecosystem. But these globalists are not really interested in stopping greenhouse gases or anything else to help the environment. If they were, China would not be exporting anything. There would be no global market and no open borders. Anyway, a couple of pics for the Bush-Palin Bots:
Can you post to 6 posts in which you attack Obama or any DNC member? You are a 100% fraud Sky drifter - 100% phony. Piss on you Whitedick. We don't need to attack Obama as we all agree he's a turd. The only problem is that the cult members on this board, with you being the leader, can't see what a friggin Rino this gal is, and stupid to boot.
You are the Intellect that gave Obama victory! It's no wonder you know ebonics so well. Admit it. You would pay him for the honor of blowing him if he had a R behind his name. ON TARGET! FIRE FOR EFFECT!!!
I also believe in climate change. Our climate has been changing since the formation of the Earth, long before man ever walked here. I also believe in conserving energy, but for the simple reason that energy costs are ridiculous. I believe this entire green/enviro movement is just another fraud designed to institute global governance and separate me from more of my money.
Like a good comrade they work hard to define speech. You've still got free speech. You are free to say anything you'd like. I'm not affecting your free speech at all. I'm just going to tell you that you are full of shit whenever you call yourself a conservative. See, I have freedom of speech also. I challenge ANYONE to find 5 posts in which Wee the People finds fault with the DNC. ANYONE. I'll give you one right here. The DNC and Obama are dyed in the wool socialists and communists, enemies of and traitors to America. I know what to expect from that crowd and I don't need to comment on it to satisfy you. The point of this entire conversation is that YOU are supporting someone, as a supposed conservative, who supports the same positions! I do believe that Sarah wants to run as and be a conservative. But I also believe that she has no idea what that entails or what side of positions she should be on to attract conservatives. She cannot come out and say these things, things the DNC AND RNC are pushing for, and expect to be considered a conservative! And her followers/fans/supporters/worshipers can't expect to be considered conservatives either. Her fans are like some cult of personality, attacking anything or anyone critical of her, even if it's TRUE! EVEN IF IT'S HER OWN WORDS!
Don't expect that you remotely be considered intellectually honest either. SUGGESTION: Establish a new party - the "Tooth Fairy Conservative Party."
Suggestion for you: Lose the insults. It shows an incredible amount of frustration, which means that you believe you are losing the debate. Which you already have. Pretend to be a conservative to someone else. You're not convincing me.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latestt was hard to believe but I saw sneakypete turn on her the other day.
#28. To: sneakypete (#25)
"We iz da wurld....
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#29. To: Mad Dog (#5)
While the messiah "king" obammy is busy KILLING America all day EVERY day, this specious bullsh!t is what the jealous paulTARD weeps and his ilk find "important".
#30. To: sneakypete (#29)
DID Palin say or write these things or not?
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#31. To: Ibluafartsky (#10)
17 months ago! Palin has learned more in that period of time than you have in a lifetime, wimp!
#32. To: All (#30)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#33. To: sneakypete (#31)
(Edited)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#34. To: Liberator (#11)
I wouldn't be surprised if the Palin 'Visorgate' "scandal" was created to divert attention away from Nelson and the DeathCare voting.
#35. To: sneakypete (#34)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#36. To: WhiteSands (#17)
Yet you support Paul an open border free tarde libertarian.
#37. To: sneakypete (#36)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#38. To: WhiteSands (#28)
Sorry Skydrifter,
#39. To: WhiteSands (#30)
DID Palin say or write these things or not?
#40. To: WhiteSands (#32)
Becasue the site is filled with DNC posters that pose as Patriots® and Constitutionalists™.
#41. To: WhiteSands (#33)
Her focus has changed from being a Sate Gov.
#42. To: sneakypete (#39)
(Edited)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#43. To: We The People (#15)
Iblusomebody
#44. To: WhiteSands (#37)
At least try and look like a conservative.
#45. To: sneakypete (#41)
And you are too fucking stupid to learn if you think I'm skydrifter.
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#46. To: Bickus Dickus (#18)
I don't know why it's taken so many people so long to figure that out.
#47. To: WhiteSands (#45)
ahh you lose with your emo meltdown Skydrifter - You did better with Ebonics.
#48. To: sneakypete (#44)
I AM a conservative,retard.
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#49. To: sneakypete (#47)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#50. To: We The People (#23)
But this article isn't about Paul.
#51. To: Ibluafartsky, We The People (#50)
(Edited)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#52. To: WhiteSands (#48)
No evidence exists at this board that you dislike the DNC.
#53. To: sneakypete (#31)
Surely you have the URL's for these important pieces of information that will clear her good name and reputation?
#54. To: Bickus Dickus (#52)
(Edited)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#55. To: WhiteSands (#42)
#56. To: WhiteSands (#48)
No evidence exists at this board that you dislike the DNC.
#57. To: WhiteSands (#49)
You are the Intellect that gave Obama victory!
#58. To: WhiteSands (#54)
#59. To: Ibluafartsky (#53)
Right after you present the one where you claim she claims she supports amnesty for all.
#60. To: sneakypete (#59)
why don't YOU tell us all what "a path to citizenship for undocumented workers" means?
#61. To: We The People (#0)
#62. To: WhiteSands, sneakypete (#42)
One had better not employ regional needs to govern and nation that's the size of the US. ----
#63. To: sneakypete (#57)
WhiteSands
#64. To: Moderate Mammal (#61)
I personally believe in climate change.
#65. To: WhiteSands (#51)
#66. To: We The People (#65)
[Palin's] followers/fans/supporters/worshipers can't expect to be considered conservatives either.
#67. To: Liberator (#66)
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