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Title: Palin's own 'Climate-gate'
Source: Washington Poat
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... /12/14/AR2009121402712_pf.html
Published: Dec 15, 2009
Author: Eugene Robinson
Post Date: 2009-12-19 15:37:36 by We The People
Keywords: None
Views: 38646
Comments: 224

By Eugene Robinson Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Sarah Palin is such a cold-eyed skeptic about the Copenhagen summit on climate change that it's no surprise she would call on President Obama not to attend. After all, Obama might join other leaders in acknowledging that warming is a "global challenge." He might entertain "opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions." He might even explore ways to "participate in carbon-trading markets."

Oh, wait. Those quotes aren't from some smug Euro-socialist manifesto. They're from an administrative order Palin signed in September 2007, as governor of Alaska, establishing a "sub-Cabinet" of top state officials to develop a strategy for dealing with climate change.

Back then, Palin was the governor of a state where "coastal erosion, thawing permafrost, retreating sea ice, record forest fires, and other changes are affecting, and will continue to affect, the lifestyles and livelihoods of Alaskans," as she wrote. Faced with that reality, she sensibly formed the high-level working group to chart a course of action.

"Climate change is not just an environmental issue," wrote Palin. "It is also a social, cultural, and economic issue important to all Alaskans."

Palin mentioned having created the climate change unit in an op-ed she wrote last week for The Post. What she didn't acknowledge was the contrast between what she says about climate change now and what she said -- and did -- about it as governor of our most at-risk state. When she was in office, Palin treated the issue as serious, complex and worthy of urgent attention. Now that she's the iconic leader of a populist movement that reacts with anger at the slightest whiff of pointy-headed, "one world" intellectualism, she writes as if the idea of seeking ways to mitigate climate change is a crock.

"Alaska's climate is warming," Palin wrote to Alaskans in a July 2008 newsletter. "While there have been warming and cooling trends before, climatologists tell us that the current rate of warming is unprecedented within the time of human civilization. Many experts predict that Alaska, along with our northern latitude neighbors, will warm at a faster pace than any other areas, and the warming will continue for decades."

In her administrative order, Palin instructed the sub-Cabinet group to develop recommendations on "the opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from Alaska sources, including the expanded use of alternative fuels, energy conservation, energy efficiency, renewable energy, land use management, and transportation planning." She also instructed the group to look into "carbon-trading markets."

But in her op-ed last week, Palin -- while acknowledging "natural, cyclical environmental trends" and the possibility that human activity might be contributing to warming -- states flatly that "any potential benefits of proposed emissions reduction policies are far outweighed by their economic costs." What she once called "carbon-trading markets" she now denounces as "the Democrats' cap-and-tax proposal."

Palin cites the "Climate-gate" e-mail scandal as reason enough for the president to skip the Copenhagen summit. I've written about those e-mails and why, despite what skeptics say, they do not begin to prove that climate science is fraudulent, politicized or fundamentally flawed. The most compelling evidence for climate change is found in the Arctic, and Palin has seen it firsthand.

In her 2008 newsletter, Palin mentioned one coastal village, Newtok, that would have to be relocated because of flooding due to the effects of warmer temperatures. Since then, relocation plans have been developed for two more towns, Shishmaref and Kivalina. The Army Corps of Engineers has identified more than 160 villages that are threatened, according to a recent newsletter from Palin's successor, Gov. Sean Parnell. At least 31 are judged to be in "imminent" peril.

In case anyone was wondering, Palin's home town of Wasilla sits at an elevation of 333 feet -- high and dry.

The chairman of the Cabinet working group that Palin assembled to develop a climate change strategy, Larry Hartig, is scheduled to deliver a presentation at Copenhagen. Posted in advance on the Internet, the presentation shows that Alaskans aren't just fretting about the abstract possibility of effects from warming. They're dealing with a real, live situation.

I predict we'll see more artful dodges of this kind from Palin. She made any number of pragmatic, reasonable, smart decisions as governor -- and now, it seems, will be obliged to renounce them all. Her tea-party legions have one answer -- a shouted "No!" -- for every question.

Palin knows better, but she has to fiddle her followers' chosen tune -- not while Rome burns, but while Nome melts.

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#134. To: Wood_Chopper (#130)

LOL!

It really figures that you are clueless as to even basic chainsaw use eh LIAR?

Have you ever actually even seen a chainsaw LIAR?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   21:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Mad Dog (#134)
(Edited)

It really figures that you are clueless as to even basic chainsaw use eh LIAR?

So you think a chainsaw is used for "chopping" wood huh?

Here's a clue for you: You "chop" wood with an ax. You "saw" wood with a chainsaw.

Even Palin knows that.

You're not LP's Mad Dog. He knows the difference too.

Turns out I just found out you are the Mad Dog from LP. You don't know that one doesn't "chop" wood with a chainsaw???

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   21:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Wood_Chopper (#135)

In in linguistics it's called "common usage" moron.

I own just four chainsaws and use just two of them every day you little pedant b!tch.

I don't know how many axes, mauls and hatchets I own, but I use one maul most every day.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   22:24:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Mad Dog (#136)

In in linguistics it's called "common usage" moron.

Yeah, sure. You can't believe the number of people around here who exclaim, "Well, I'm gonna go chop wood now with my chainsaw!" / sarcasm

People who use chainsaws don't talk about "chopping" wood with them, even in common usage.

They don't "chop" down a tree with a chainsaw, the "cut" it down.

Your statements aren't adding up.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   22:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Wood_Chopper (#137)

Piss off dink.

You don't even know anybody who has ever even seen a chainsaw.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   22:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Mad Dog (#138) (Edited)

You don't even know anybody who has ever even seen a chainsaw.

Palin wants amnesty for illegal aliens, and went for global warming. Now she's changed her tune on global warming, but not amnesty, to get morons like you to line up.

Lap it up, dog.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   22:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Wood_Chopper (#139)

LOL!

You really are an ineffectual little ponce.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   23:01:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Mad Dog (#140) (Edited)

You really are an ineffectual little ponce.

You guys aren't fooling as many as you used to.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   23:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Mad Dog (#140)

Did Palin really say this on this date?:

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009)

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   23:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Mad Dog (#102) (Edited)

Weeps you really crack me up!

YOU and the rest of your paulTARD kin don't get to define "Conservatism" or decide who is or is not a Conservative.

Boy, when you're right, you're right Mad Dog. You sure got me there.

I don't get to define conservatism OR neoconservatism.

But dictionaries do! And guess which catagory YOU and Palin fall into? LOL!

I'll give you a hint. It ain't conservative.

Have you looked up the definitions? Have you eaten any good books lately?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   1:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Wood_Chopper (#141)

What "guys" you little ineffectual ponce?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   1:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Wood_Chopper (#142)

LOL!

Do you know what doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result defines you little ineffectual ponce?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   1:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: We The People (#143)

LOL!

What is it like to allow other people to define you weeps?

What is it like to be so insecure in your own self that you NEED the approval of others weeps?

I wouldn't know.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   1:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Mad Dog (#144)

What "guys" you little ineffectual ponce?

You're no longer worth answering.

I've shown others what you are. If they can't figure it out, the republic's toast.

But if they do...

Bye.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-27   2:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Wood_Chopper (#147)

LOL!

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

Once a LIAR always a LIAR, eh LIAR?

Do you even know what a chainsaw is LIAR?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   3:29:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Mad Dog (#146)

What is it like to allow other people to define you weeps?

What? You mean you DON'T want to talk about the dictionary definitions of political views and stances? You want to talk about ME instead?

Sorry pissy puppy, but I don't swing that way.

Well, I'm going to talk about those dictionary definitions anyway, nutjob. M'kay?

Tell us leech, what's the dictionary definition of your neoqueen's foreign policy?

Tell us leech, what is the definition of the 180 reverse of course that John Kerry tried to get away with?

Do you have the balls to answer honest questions?

I guarantee you don't. Neocons never do.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   17:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: We The People (#149)

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?"

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   17:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: weeps aka We The People (#149)

LMAO!

Hey weeps, NEWSFLASH!; the only people who use the term "neocon" are libturds and RINOS/CINOS.

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?"

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   17:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Mad Dog (#150)

Do you have the balls to answer honest questions?

I guarantee you don't. Neocons never do.

I rest my case.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   17:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: We The People (#152)

LOL!

An "honest question"? Sure. But yours aren't "honest" are they, you vile libturd shill?

"LMAO!

Hey weeps, NEWSFLASH!; the only people who use the term "neocon" are libturds and RINOS/CINOS.

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?""

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   17:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Mad Dog (#150)

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?"

LMAO!

Only in the twisted mind of a neoconservative does pointing out the leftist policy positions of a supposed conservative, equate to being a "libturd shill", as you so eloquently put it.

Please! You got nothing.

You may go now.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   17:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: We The People (#154)

YAWN.

""LMAO!

Hey weeps, NEWSFLASH!; the only people who use the term "neocon" are libturds and RINOS/CINOS.

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?""

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   17:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: Mad Dog (#155)

No puppy, conservatives also use the term 'neocon' to describe blood sucking neoleeches like you.

Put the moniker of conservative down and take 10 steps backward! Neocon nutjob.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   17:37:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Mad Dog (#153)

An "honest question"? Sure. But yours aren't "honest" are they, you vile libturd shill?

Ok, let me rephrase it so it doesn't offend your delicate sensibilities.

What is the dictionary definition of Sarah Palin's SELF PROCLAIMED foreign policy?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   17:42:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: We The People (#156)

LOL!

You are BUSTED weeps! you are LIAR and a vile libturd shill!

"YAWN.

""LMAO!

Hey weeps, NEWSFLASH!; the only people who use the term "neocon" are libturds and RINOS/CINOS.

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?""

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   18:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: weeps aka We The People (#157)

A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   18:05:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Mad Dog (#159)

LOL! Sorry nutjob, you haven't answered anything for me yet.

There are questions up thread. I know you saw them. You want me to answer your when you haven't answered mine. You dishonorable fuck, you're acting JUST like yukon. Why would I expect anything different though.

And why are you posting the EXACT same Bullshit lines on two different forums? Are you bipolar or something?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   18:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: We The People (#160)

LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   18:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: Mad Dog (#161)

You do realize that you're copying and pasting the exact same shit on two different forums, over and over and over?

Has that really worked for you in the past? Don't you feel the least bit stupid?

Shit MD, I'm getting embarrassed FOR you. LOL!

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   18:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Mad Dog (#161)

LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   18:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: We The People (#162)

You little shill pussy, you can dish it out but you sure can't take it can you bitch?

Too bad.

"LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   19:14:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: We The People (#163)

LMAO!!!!!!

You are incapable of any original thoughts or actions aren't you, you little libturd shill bitch?

"LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   19:17:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Mad Dog (#164)

You little shill pussy, you can dish it out but you sure can't take it can you bitch?

Too bad.

"LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   20:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Mad Dog (#165)

LMAO!!!!!!

You are incapable of any original thoughts or actions aren't you, you little libturd shill bitch?

"LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   20:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Mad Dog (#165)

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

I don't give a fuck about 'yours' you freaking retard!

How many times do you have to be told something?

You need to "Change" your copy and paste, idiot!

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   20:05:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Wood_Chopper (#125)

You can't be LP's Mad Dog. Every post you make here drives a nail into Palin's political life's coffin. You couldn't be turning more people away from Palin if you wanted to.

Actually, Mad Dog does post over on LP. Here: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=280019

#27. To: Mad Dog

(#26) Are you posting over on LF as Mad Dog? sneakypete posted on 2009-12-26 22:06:15 ET Reply Trace

#28. To: sneakypete

(#27) Yes. Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 22:07:48 ET Reply Trace

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   20:11:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: weeps (#167)

LOL! WEAK you little shill bitch, just like YOU are!

Thanks for the PROOF as if any more was needed that you are simply incapable of an original thought or action, and that you are nothing but a lying libturd shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   20:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: weeps (#168)

LOL! you are getting kind of "spit flecked" there, you little shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   20:25:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Mad Dog (#164)

Mad Dog

You're going to get Palin for President. Yes, you will definitely get her alright. She plans to run for President and she will no doubt win because she will have the Bush family, Cheney, the Bloomberg family, and the Rothschild family in her pocket so that she does their dirty biddings. She DOES NOT represent the American people. She represents big oil industries and the Rockefeller ilk.

And she will do to you what Bush did to those who voted for him TWICE for President. Knife the American people in the back again.

History has shown to repeat itself because people like yourself are stuck in the small details of what is going on in the mainstream that you fail to see the big picture. If you would just dare to grasp the wizard of OZ's curtain, you would see that your whole conception of what Palin is is nothing but one big grand illusion. All the world is a stage and Palin is playing her part to bewitch the mass of idiots and sweetstrum them along like a violin enough to put them to sleep.

If you choose to support Palin, fine. That is your choice. But don't come whinning to the rest of us when her time comes and she does a Bush on all of us.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   20:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: Wood_Chopper, Mad Dog (#139)

Woodchopper is correct to note that Palin is pro-amnesty. Everything that is BAD for this country and is the reason why she is unfit to be President. On page two of the article posted below, Sarah Palin is quote as saying she supports amnesty!

Read it for yourself, Mad Dog. Facts are facts. Palin is nothing but some puppet for the elitists who are working feverishly to destroy America.

Interview with Sarah Palin October 26, 2008

www.univision.com/content...534&cid=1716304&pagenum=1

www.univision.com/content...534&cid=1716304&pagenum=2

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   20:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: Mad Dog (#170)

WEAK you little shill bitch, just like YOU are!

I have told you before Nighthawk, that any time you'd like to test that assumption, in the Real World and not from behind your monitor, just let me know.

I'll even buy your plane ticket and pick you up at the airport. Or, if you prefer I'll come to you. You can even bring Dragon with you.

But I will NOT follow you, on flaming steeds, into the putrid and skanky mists of neoconservatism!

LMFAOAY!!! Neo nut job. Now cry like a baby again because you believe I've threatened you.

Loud mouthed puss.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   20:56:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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