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Title: Palin's own 'Climate-gate'
Source: Washington Poat
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... /12/14/AR2009121402712_pf.html
Published: Dec 15, 2009
Author: Eugene Robinson
Post Date: 2009-12-19 15:37:36 by We The People
Keywords: None
Views: 38659
Comments: 224

By Eugene Robinson Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Sarah Palin is such a cold-eyed skeptic about the Copenhagen summit on climate change that it's no surprise she would call on President Obama not to attend. After all, Obama might join other leaders in acknowledging that warming is a "global challenge." He might entertain "opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions." He might even explore ways to "participate in carbon-trading markets."

Oh, wait. Those quotes aren't from some smug Euro-socialist manifesto. They're from an administrative order Palin signed in September 2007, as governor of Alaska, establishing a "sub-Cabinet" of top state officials to develop a strategy for dealing with climate change.

Back then, Palin was the governor of a state where "coastal erosion, thawing permafrost, retreating sea ice, record forest fires, and other changes are affecting, and will continue to affect, the lifestyles and livelihoods of Alaskans," as she wrote. Faced with that reality, she sensibly formed the high-level working group to chart a course of action.

"Climate change is not just an environmental issue," wrote Palin. "It is also a social, cultural, and economic issue important to all Alaskans."

Palin mentioned having created the climate change unit in an op-ed she wrote last week for The Post. What she didn't acknowledge was the contrast between what she says about climate change now and what she said -- and did -- about it as governor of our most at-risk state. When she was in office, Palin treated the issue as serious, complex and worthy of urgent attention. Now that she's the iconic leader of a populist movement that reacts with anger at the slightest whiff of pointy-headed, "one world" intellectualism, she writes as if the idea of seeking ways to mitigate climate change is a crock.

"Alaska's climate is warming," Palin wrote to Alaskans in a July 2008 newsletter. "While there have been warming and cooling trends before, climatologists tell us that the current rate of warming is unprecedented within the time of human civilization. Many experts predict that Alaska, along with our northern latitude neighbors, will warm at a faster pace than any other areas, and the warming will continue for decades."

In her administrative order, Palin instructed the sub-Cabinet group to develop recommendations on "the opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from Alaska sources, including the expanded use of alternative fuels, energy conservation, energy efficiency, renewable energy, land use management, and transportation planning." She also instructed the group to look into "carbon-trading markets."

But in her op-ed last week, Palin -- while acknowledging "natural, cyclical environmental trends" and the possibility that human activity might be contributing to warming -- states flatly that "any potential benefits of proposed emissions reduction policies are far outweighed by their economic costs." What she once called "carbon-trading markets" she now denounces as "the Democrats' cap-and-tax proposal."

Palin cites the "Climate-gate" e-mail scandal as reason enough for the president to skip the Copenhagen summit. I've written about those e-mails and why, despite what skeptics say, they do not begin to prove that climate science is fraudulent, politicized or fundamentally flawed. The most compelling evidence for climate change is found in the Arctic, and Palin has seen it firsthand.

In her 2008 newsletter, Palin mentioned one coastal village, Newtok, that would have to be relocated because of flooding due to the effects of warmer temperatures. Since then, relocation plans have been developed for two more towns, Shishmaref and Kivalina. The Army Corps of Engineers has identified more than 160 villages that are threatened, according to a recent newsletter from Palin's successor, Gov. Sean Parnell. At least 31 are judged to be in "imminent" peril.

In case anyone was wondering, Palin's home town of Wasilla sits at an elevation of 333 feet -- high and dry.

The chairman of the Cabinet working group that Palin assembled to develop a climate change strategy, Larry Hartig, is scheduled to deliver a presentation at Copenhagen. Posted in advance on the Internet, the presentation shows that Alaskans aren't just fretting about the abstract possibility of effects from warming. They're dealing with a real, live situation.

I predict we'll see more artful dodges of this kind from Palin. She made any number of pragmatic, reasonable, smart decisions as governor -- and now, it seems, will be obliged to renounce them all. Her tea-party legions have one answer -- a shouted "No!" -- for every question.

Palin knows better, but she has to fiddle her followers' chosen tune -- not while Rome burns, but while Nome melts.

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#114. To: Mad Dog (#112)

You "demand" that a person who is not running for anything

If she's not running for anything,WHY do you support her and what difference does it make to you WHAT she says?

and who has no elected position

Well,she DID hold a very high public office,but then she quit to write a book and go on a book-selling tour.

meet "standards/lithmus test" that your wittle hero ronniePaulie couldn't/didn't meet in DECADES of time in the CONgress.

Ron Paul isn't my hero,and even if he were,you are doing nothing but repeating lies you have heard about him. The bills he voted against he voted against because of riders attached to them and amendments made to them that would have caused even greater harm to the Republic.

BUT....,as you said about Palin,Ron Paul isn't running for president right now,so why do you care what he says or does?

Other than as a method to take attention away from your Goddess of Path to Citizenship,that is?

You certainly are a HYPOCRITE "keith" mod 2.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009)

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-26   17:35:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Mad Dog (#113)

because unlike YOU and the rest of them I have an actual life,

Sure,you do. And you spend it wiping spittle off your monitor between posts.

Then you accuse me of something that I would never do, blind support for anybody

DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me)

"I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)"

Yup,sure sounds like it.

"keith" mod 2.

Who is Keith,and who is mod 2? As far as that goes,who is mod 1?

You are a total credulous fool and tool "keith" mod 2,

Give it a rest,you blithering idiot.

you believe the enemies of America, and now you have joined them.

Guess what,Buckwheat? Palin AIN'T America. She is just another politician that adores John McCain.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009)

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-26   17:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: sneakypete (#114)

LOL! "keith" mod 2! Did you hurt that innocent shark when you jumped him? LOL!

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   17:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: sneakypete (#115)

Your prototype "keith" mod 2, is mumbling MORON aka "keith" aka moderate mammal.

LOL! "keith" mod 2! Did you hurt that innocent shark when you jumped him? LOL!

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   17:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Mad Dog (#109)

I don't know or F ing care.

That's how the Obama supporters saw their guy too. The fact that you're pushing Palin without knowing or caring what she has said doesn't come as a surprise.

You can't be the same Mad Dog as the one at LP. You've taken it too over the top.

______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   18:46:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Wood_Chopper (#118)

You just can't help being a complete LIAR can you pu$$y boy?

"#109. To: Wood_Chopper (#106) Actually I said,

"I don't know or F ing care.

I quit "fact checking" all of the lies and spins that you and your ilk spread about Governor Palin, because EVERYONE of them turned out to be nothing but a LIE or a SPIN or a HALF TRUTH.

I don't have the desire to correct PDS insane morons who I was shocked to understand now includes you on this matter.

I'm not trying to bail anyone out with the TRUTH about your failed wee hero ronniePaulie pete, it is a "koan" it is an object lesson in you paulTARD'S hypocrisy and inability to take even an instant of the treatment that Governor Palin gets all day everyday from credulous hypocrites and frauds such as YOU.

You are pitiful."

"Half truths" that's just one of your SOPs, isn't it tool?

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are pitiful."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:56:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply "

LOL!

"Half truths" that's just one of your SOPs, isn't it tool?

LMAO!

"Half truths" that's just one of your SOPs, isn't it tool?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Half truths" that's just one of your SOPs, isn't it tool?

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Half truths" that's just one of your SOPs, isn't it tool?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   19:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Mad Dog (#119) (Edited)

You wrote it, not me!

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   19:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: sneakypete (#120)

Courtesy ping. You're in my new tag line.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   19:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Mad Dog (#119) (Edited)

Oh, and btw,

I still don't believe you are LP's Mad Dog. You completely ignored that part of my post.

I say you're not.

You could always post at LP that you are in fact the Mad Dog that posts at LF, and send me a link to prove me wrong.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   20:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Wood_Chopper (#120)

You wrote it, not me!

I sure did write it, and it's true LIAR.

There is this thing called context, LIAR; then there is this concept of by not providing all of a statement or that statement's context that is considered to be a LIE, a so called HALF TRUTH LIAR.

I said,

"I don't know or F ing care.

I quit "fact checking" all of the lies and spins that you and your ilk spread about Governor Palin, because EVERYONE of them turned out to be nothing but a LIE or a SPIN or a HALF TRUTH.

I don't have the desire to correct PDS insane morons ...."

Didn't I LIAR?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   20:13:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Wood_Chopper (#122)

LOL! you forgot to ask me if I care what you "think" dink?

I COULD do alot of things dink, but responding to your demands isn't on that list b!tch.

I sure did write it, and it's true LIAR.

There is this thing called context, LIAR; then there is this concept of by not providing all of a statement or that statement's context that is considered to be a LIE, a so called HALF TRUTH LIAR.

"I said,

"I don't know or F ing care.

I quit "fact checking" all of the lies and spins that you and your ilk spread about Governor Palin, because EVERYONE of them turned out to be nothing but a LIE or a SPIN or a HALF TRUTH.

I don't have the desire to correct PDS insane morons ...."

Didn't I LIAR?"

But thanks for proving yet again that you are nothing but a LIAR dink.

LOL!

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   20:17:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Mad Dog (#124)

The reasons you give for not knowing what Palin has said, and not F ing caring what she has said, and still continuing to support her don't really matter.

You don't know what she's said, or hasn't said, and don't F ing care, you'll support her anyway.

We get that already, the reasons for your actions notwithstanding.

You can't be LP's Mad Dog. Every post you make here drives a nail into Palin's political life's coffin. You couldn't be turning more people away from Palin if you wanted to.

I'm not at all sure that's not your objective.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   20:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Wood_Chopper (#125)

Yawn.

Once a LIAR ALWAYS a LIAR tool.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   20:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Mad Dog (#126) (Edited)

At least your responses are getting shorter. Can't shoot while you're taking cover, can you.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   20:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Wood_Chopper (#127)

LOL!

THAT'S all that you have LIAR?

What am I "taking cover" from LIAR?

Thanks for proving, again, that you are just another LIAR.

(I bet that you don't even know how to start a chainsaw, let alone use one.)

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   21:25:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Mad Dog (#124)

Most people who find themselves in a hole quit digging.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-26   21:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Mad Dog (#128)

(I bet that you don't even know how to start a chainsaw, let alone use one.)

Really!?

How much wood do you "chop" with a chainsaw?

You're not LP's Mad Dog.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   21:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Wood_Chopper (#121)

Courtesy ping. You're in my new tag line.

LOL! Check my modified one out.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-26   21:31:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: sneakypete (#131)

LOL! Check my modified one out.

Dern, I should've thought to include the url. Nice touch!

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   21:34:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: sneakypete (#129)

Why don't YOU "keith" mod 2?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   21:36:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Wood_Chopper (#130)

LOL!

It really figures that you are clueless as to even basic chainsaw use eh LIAR?

Have you ever actually even seen a chainsaw LIAR?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   21:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Mad Dog (#134) (Edited)

It really figures that you are clueless as to even basic chainsaw use eh LIAR?

So you think a chainsaw is used for "chopping" wood huh?

Here's a clue for you: You "chop" wood with an ax. You "saw" wood with a chainsaw.

Even Palin knows that.

You're not LP's Mad Dog. He knows the difference too.

Turns out I just found out you are the Mad Dog from LP. You don't know that one doesn't "chop" wood with a chainsaw???

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   21:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Wood_Chopper (#135)

In in linguistics it's called "common usage" moron.

I own just four chainsaws and use just two of them every day you little pedant b!tch.

I don't know how many axes, mauls and hatchets I own, but I use one maul most every day.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   22:24:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Mad Dog (#136)

In in linguistics it's called "common usage" moron.

Yeah, sure. You can't believe the number of people around here who exclaim, "Well, I'm gonna go chop wood now with my chainsaw!" / sarcasm

People who use chainsaws don't talk about "chopping" wood with them, even in common usage.

They don't "chop" down a tree with a chainsaw, the "cut" it down.

Your statements aren't adding up.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   22:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Wood_Chopper (#137)

Piss off dink.

You don't even know anybody who has ever even seen a chainsaw.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   22:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Mad Dog (#138) (Edited)

You don't even know anybody who has ever even seen a chainsaw.

Palin wants amnesty for illegal aliens, and went for global warming. Now she's changed her tune on global warming, but not amnesty, to get morons like you to line up.

Lap it up, dog.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   22:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Wood_Chopper (#139)

LOL!

You really are an ineffectual little ponce.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   23:01:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Mad Dog (#140) (Edited)

You really are an ineffectual little ponce.

You guys aren't fooling as many as you used to.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   23:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Mad Dog (#140)

Did Palin really say this on this date?:

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009)

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   23:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Mad Dog (#102) (Edited)

Weeps you really crack me up!

YOU and the rest of your paulTARD kin don't get to define "Conservatism" or decide who is or is not a Conservative.

Boy, when you're right, you're right Mad Dog. You sure got me there.

I don't get to define conservatism OR neoconservatism.

But dictionaries do! And guess which catagory YOU and Palin fall into? LOL!

I'll give you a hint. It ain't conservative.

Have you looked up the definitions? Have you eaten any good books lately?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   1:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Wood_Chopper (#141)

What "guys" you little ineffectual ponce?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   1:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Wood_Chopper (#142)

LOL!

Do you know what doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result defines you little ineffectual ponce?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   1:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: We The People (#143)

LOL!

What is it like to allow other people to define you weeps?

What is it like to be so insecure in your own self that you NEED the approval of others weeps?

I wouldn't know.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   1:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Mad Dog (#144)

What "guys" you little ineffectual ponce?

You're no longer worth answering.

I've shown others what you are. If they can't figure it out, the republic's toast.

But if they do...

Bye.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-27   2:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Wood_Chopper (#147)

LOL!

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

Once a LIAR always a LIAR, eh LIAR?

Do you even know what a chainsaw is LIAR?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   3:29:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Mad Dog (#146)

What is it like to allow other people to define you weeps?

What? You mean you DON'T want to talk about the dictionary definitions of political views and stances? You want to talk about ME instead?

Sorry pissy puppy, but I don't swing that way.

Well, I'm going to talk about those dictionary definitions anyway, nutjob. M'kay?

Tell us leech, what's the dictionary definition of your neoqueen's foreign policy?

Tell us leech, what is the definition of the 180 reverse of course that John Kerry tried to get away with?

Do you have the balls to answer honest questions?

I guarantee you don't. Neocons never do.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   17:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: We The People (#149)

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?"

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   17:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: weeps aka We The People (#149)

LMAO!

Hey weeps, NEWSFLASH!; the only people who use the term "neocon" are libturds and RINOS/CINOS.

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?"

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   17:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Mad Dog (#150)

Do you have the balls to answer honest questions?

I guarantee you don't. Neocons never do.

I rest my case.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   17:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: We The People (#152)

LOL!

An "honest question"? Sure. But yours aren't "honest" are they, you vile libturd shill?

"LMAO!

Hey weeps, NEWSFLASH!; the only people who use the term "neocon" are libturds and RINOS/CINOS.

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?""

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   17:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Mad Dog (#150)

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?"

LMAO!

Only in the twisted mind of a neoconservative does pointing out the leftist policy positions of a supposed conservative, equate to being a "libturd shill", as you so eloquently put it.

Please! You got nothing.

You may go now.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   17:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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