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Title: Rider Passed Protecting Military Firearms, Ammunition, and Components
Source: NRA/ILA
URL Source: http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=5258
Published: Dec 19, 2009
Author: unknown
Post Date: 2009-12-19 10:35:03 by sneakypete
Keywords: Surplus guns, Surplus ammo
Views: 46922
Comments: 106

With the holiday season upon us, and the end of the year fast approaching, the U.S. House of Representatives passed H.R. 3326—the Department of Defense Appropriations Act of 2010. With the passage of this bill, NRA-ILA wraps up its appropriations work for the year.

Our efforts on the huge spending bill were rewarded with the restoration of a longstanding rider to protect M-1 carbines, M-1 Garands, M-14s, .22 caliber rifles, and others from being destroyed.

This language also includes a prohibition on the destruction of small arms ammunition and components, and a response to the short-lived concern over destruction of spent brass casings earlier this year.

Section 8019 of the bill reads: "None of the funds available to the Department of Defense may be used to demilitarize or dispose of M-1 Carbines, M-1 Garand rifles, M-14 rifles, .22 caliber rifles, .30 caliber rifles, or M-1911 pistols, or to demilitarize or destroy small arms ammunition or ammunition components that are not otherwise prohibited from commercial sale under Federal law, unless the small arms ammunition or ammunition components are certified by the Secretary of the Army or designee as unserviceable or unsafe for further use."

NRA-ILA would like to thank U.S. Representative John Murtha (D-PA) for his help in getting the rider restored and expanded.

To read the full bill, please click here.

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#1. To: sneakypete (#0)

Think I'll go to the range again this weekend.

Last week I met the firearms instructor for my city's police dept. there. He was there with his grandson. He had some very nice gear and invited me to fire all I wanted. I declined at first but he said, "Never turn down the chance to fire another man's ammo". LOL!

He pulled out some AK's, some AR's, an SKS, an M1, and several side arms.

I had this with me http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/su16d.htm and he wanted to fire it. After he fired it he said he HAD to have one.

A very nice guy. Very pro 2nd amendment.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-19   10:58:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: We The People (#1)

an M1

A M-1 as in "Garand"?

Be still my beating heart! Those things were mass-issue target rifles. I love em,love em,love em! I'd take one in a heartbeat over ANY issue battle rifle of today.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   11:19:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#3)

A M-1 as in "Garand"?

Be still my beating heart! Those things were mass-issue target rifles. I love em,love em,love em! I'd take one in a heartbeat over ANY issue battle rifle of today.

Over a M-1A? Over a PTR-91? Over a Vector Arm RPK-74?

I'm of the opinion that all those rifles above are far superior to the Garand.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   12:55:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Nebuchadnezzar, sneakypete (#15)

I'm of the opinion that all those rifles above are far superior to the Garand.

LOL! In what way are those "far superior" to the Garand? Other than magazine capacity, I see nothing "far superior" as far as ballistics, accuracy, stopping power, reliability, etc. are concerned.

eskimo  posted on  2009-12-19   14:26:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: eskimo (#17)

LOL! In what way are those "far superior" to the Garand? Other than magazine capacity, I see nothing "far superior" as far as ballistics, accuracy, stopping power, reliability, etc. are concerned.

M1 Garand = termite gun.

Shit, a Russian SKS is a better rifle and will take all sorts of ammo, unlike the finique Garand.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   16:20:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Nebuchadnezzar, , *Humor* (#19)

M1 Garand = termite gun.

Shit, a Russian SKS is a better rifle and will take all sorts of ammo, unlike the finique Garand.

ROFLMAO! Ok,that one earns you a humor ping.

When you write stuff like that,you deserve to have people laugh at you.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   18:54:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#27)

ROFLMAO! Ok,that one earns you a humor ping.

When you write stuff like that,you deserve to have people laugh at you.

Well I'm still laughing over your laughable comments on the termite gun, aka Garand.

Looks like we both are having a good laugh today.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   19:05:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#31)

Looks like we both are having a good laugh today.

LOL! I guess! The only difference is only one of understands the issue.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   9:32:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: sneakypete (#46) (Edited)

LOL! I guess! The only difference is only one of understands the issue.

Right!

And you don't realize that the US Army DUMPED the M1 for the M-14, but we'll stick with the M1A instead.

Tell me, Mr. Expert, how is the M1 Garand "superior" to the M-14 or M1A?

And, since the M-14 first entered service in 1959, that would make it's tenure in the US Military some 50 years.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-20   11:30:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#53)

And you don't realize that the US Army DUMPED the M1 for the M-14, but we'll stick with the M1A instead.

You DO realize you are trying to debate military weapons with a former career US Army SF weapons NCO,right?

Not to mention a school trained gunsmith who has built custom rifles and even created his own wildcat round?

There are several people on this board who are qualified to debate this subject with me,but you ain't one of them.

Tell me, Mr. Expert, how is the M1 Garand "superior" to the M-14 or M1A?

You mean other than fit,finish,reliability,range,and accuracy?

And, since the M-14 first entered service in 1959, that would make it's tenure in the US Military some 50 years.

Ok,and that is supposed to indicate what?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   12:43:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: sneakypete (#56)

And, since the M-14 first entered service in 1959, that would make it's tenure in the US Military some 50 years.

Ok,and that is supposed to indicate what?

Fuck son, if I have to connect the dots for you on this, you have a lot to learn about modern combat and weaponry.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-20   13:08:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#61)

And, since the M-14 first entered service in 1959, that would make it's tenure in the US Military some 50 years.

Ok,and that is supposed to indicate what?

Fuck son, if I have to connect the dots for you on this, you have a lot to learn about modern combat and weaponry.

So what is your background and what are your credentials on this subject?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-20   13:14:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: We The People (#62)

So what is your background and what are your credentials on this subject?

My background or qualifications are irrelevant, his contention that 50 years of service that the M-14/M1A has had with the US military, is the question here.

I'm to believe he's correct, and the US miltary is wrong?

If the M1 Garand is so superior, why does the US military reject his hypotheis?

He's the one arguing with technological progress, not me.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-20   13:43:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#64)

his contention that 50 years of service that the M-14/M1A has had with the US military, is the question here.

Surely you are not inferring that our government always acts in ours or our military's best interests?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-20   13:50:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: We The People (#66) (Edited)

his contention that 50 years of service that the M-14/M1A has had with the US military, is the question here. Surely you are not inferring that our government always acts in ours or our military's best interests?

That's your response? Have you shot the M1A? Have you shot the M1 Garand? The HK91?

I have.

I'd prefer not to worry about my thumb getting ripped off by some antiquated loading system in combat conditions thank you very much.

If you're not familiar with the "disease" type into google "garand thumb".

Then get back to me.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-20   13:53:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#67)

If you'll read up-thread, I recently shot an M1, but I don't know what type it was.

I'd prefer not to worry about my thumb getting ripped off by some antiquated loading system in combat conditions thank you very much. If you're not familiar with the "disease" type into google "garand thumb".

Thanks, I will.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-20   13:58:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: We The People (#68)

If you'll read up-thread, I recently shot an M1, but I don't know what type it was.

I suspect it was an M1A, as who ever would be teaching you to shoot for the first time on an M1 Garand, would have spent some time warning you about the "Garand thumb".

Was the "M1" magazine fed? They are nice rifles, built on the Garand action, but without the drawbacks.

Take care!

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-20   14:36:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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