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Title: Rider Passed Protecting Military Firearms, Ammunition, and Components
Source: NRA/ILA
URL Source: http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=5258
Published: Dec 19, 2009
Author: unknown
Post Date: 2009-12-19 10:35:03 by sneakypete
Keywords: Surplus guns, Surplus ammo
Views: 46755
Comments: 106

With the holiday season upon us, and the end of the year fast approaching, the U.S. House of Representatives passed H.R. 3326—the Department of Defense Appropriations Act of 2010. With the passage of this bill, NRA-ILA wraps up its appropriations work for the year.

Our efforts on the huge spending bill were rewarded with the restoration of a longstanding rider to protect M-1 carbines, M-1 Garands, M-14s, .22 caliber rifles, and others from being destroyed.

This language also includes a prohibition on the destruction of small arms ammunition and components, and a response to the short-lived concern over destruction of spent brass casings earlier this year.

Section 8019 of the bill reads: "None of the funds available to the Department of Defense may be used to demilitarize or dispose of M-1 Carbines, M-1 Garand rifles, M-14 rifles, .22 caliber rifles, .30 caliber rifles, or M-1911 pistols, or to demilitarize or destroy small arms ammunition or ammunition components that are not otherwise prohibited from commercial sale under Federal law, unless the small arms ammunition or ammunition components are certified by the Secretary of the Army or designee as unserviceable or unsafe for further use."

NRA-ILA would like to thank U.S. Representative John Murtha (D-PA) for his help in getting the rider restored and expanded.

To read the full bill, please click here.

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#23. To: Joe Snuffy, (#14)

Smith and Wesson M351 Lt Wt. 22 Mag

The 22 mag is the next thing to useless. The ammunition is insanely expensive and you can't even buy it everywhere. On top of that,it just isn't that much more powerful for short range self-defense out of a handgun barrel.

A 38 Special with swaged 146 grain hollowpoints loaded backwards over some fairly stiff loads of Unique would be a MUCH better choice. I used to load some up for friends that lived in apartments,and they would expand to 72 caliber and not penetrate 4 inches of soft pine.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   18:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#15)

Over a M-1A? Over a PTR-91? Over a Vector Arm RPK-74?

ABSOLUTELY! By the time you get up close enough to hit me with those play toys,I will have been shooting pieces off of you for the last 400 yards. BIG pieces that a 30/06 will take off.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   18:45:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: eskimo (#17)

LOL! In what way are those "far superior" to the Garand? Other than magazine capacity, I see nothing "far superior" as far as ballistics, accuracy, stopping power, reliability, etc. are concerned.

Even the target grade M1-A's rarely match the accuracy of a ISSUE M1 Garand. Rack grade Garands would shoot 1 inch groups at 100 yards with issue ammo.

It's a good thing he didn't offer me a BAR as a option,though. That's another one with the"reach out and touch somebody" feature,but it also has box magazines and a slow-fire option to the selector switch.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   18:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: echo5sierra (#18)

Give me a FAL!

A metric FAL is my number 2 pick.

Unless of course I get a M1918A2 BAR as a pick. Then the FAL falls to number 3.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   18:51:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Nebuchadnezzar, , *Humor* (#19)

M1 Garand = termite gun.

Shit, a Russian SKS is a better rifle and will take all sorts of ammo, unlike the finique Garand.

ROFLMAO! Ok,that one earns you a humor ping.

When you write stuff like that,you deserve to have people laugh at you.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   18:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#20)

A FAL is a far, far superior weapon to the Garand "termite" rifle.

LOL! For your sake,I hope you never get into a shooting contest at any range beyond 200 yards with a man carrying a Garand,or even closer if you both have good cover.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   18:56:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: sneakypete (#24)

ABSOLUTELY! By the time you get up close enough to hit me with those play toys,I will have been shooting pieces off of you for the last 400 yards. BIG pieces that a 30/06 will take off.

What a crock sneaky. That termite gun is 50+ years, at best.

Archaic is the best term for that club.

8 rounds. What's up with that?

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   18:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#29)

8 rounds. What's up with that?

It only takes ONE well-placed round, numbnuts.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   19:04:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#27)

ROFLMAO! Ok,that one earns you a humor ping.

When you write stuff like that,you deserve to have people laugh at you.

Well I'm still laughing over your laughable comments on the termite gun, aka Garand.

Looks like we both are having a good laugh today.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   19:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ibluafartsky (#30)

8 rounds. What's up with that? It only takes ONE well-placed round, numbnuts.

Right, sure, whatever.

I see you've either been hitting the sauce too much today or have been playing too much Call of Duty.

Iblowboys, why don't you leave this conversation to men?

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   19:06:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: sneakypete (#28)

LOL! For your sake,I hope you never get into a shooting contest at any range beyond 200 yards with a man carrying a Garand,or even closer if you both have good cover.

Unless the termites haven't eaten that Garand for dinner you mean!

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   19:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#32)

Iblowboys

Hell, we all suspected you're a pedophile, numbnuts.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   19:15:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Ibluafartsky (#34)

Sorry, you're the one with the name "Iblowboys".

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   19:32:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#35)

Iblowboys

It's all yours, pedophile. What a fookin moron you are.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   19:42:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ibluafartsky (#36)

Iblowboys It's all yours, pedophile. What a fookin moron you are.

Wow, you're clueless. All of us here find you disgusting.

You're the one boasting about blowing things pal.

You own it. It's yours.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   19:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#19)

M1 Garand = termite gun.

You should have just said that did not know anything about the Garand.

eskimo  posted on  2009-12-20   2:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#25)

It's a good thing he didn't offer me a BAR as a option,though.

LOL! Yes, I agree the M1918 is some serious hardware.

eskimo  posted on  2009-12-20   3:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#37)

You're the one boasting about blowing things pal.

I'm not your pal, pedophile.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-20   3:11:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ibluafartsky (#40)

You're a fuckhead, fuckhead.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-12-20   3:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Fred Mertz (#41)

You're a fuckhead, fuckhead.

Hey Freddie, what do the tree huggers think about you sexually assaulting the knotholes? You fookin pervert!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-20   3:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: sneakypete (#0)

You're Jewish? I had no idea.

See 4um for details.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-12-20   3:43:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Fred Mertz, sneakypete (#43)

You're Jewish? I had no idea.

See 4um for details.

I suppose it's possible for an American Indian to practice Judaism, perv Freddie, but the fookin morons at some forums like stormfront and dummies believe that anyone who isn't a complete asshole has to be a JOOOOOOOO!!!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-20   4:56:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#29)

What a crock sneaky. That termite gun is 50+ years, at best.

Archaic is the best term for that club.

8 rounds. What's up with that?

LOL! You must be about 18,with the gangsta spray and pray attitude.

Would it help of somebody put one out with a plastic stock?

As for 8 rounds,I don't need 8 rounds to hit what I'm shooting at,and I don't need 8 rounds to put it down once I start shooting at it. Especially not with a Garand. If 8 of you start coming at me with your beloved AK-47's from more than 200 yards away and I have a Garand,I will kill every one of you before you even get within reasonable range to start shooting at me.

"New" and "trendy" doesn't automatically mean "better".

Please note that the M2 BMG is still in service today,and it's older than the Garand. Or maybe you and your little friends would like to grab your squirt guns and come charged at me while I'm sitting behind the trigger of a M2? After all,it's OLD.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   9:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#31)

Looks like we both are having a good laugh today.

LOL! I guess! The only difference is only one of understands the issue.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   9:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: eskimo, Nebuchadnezzar (#38)

M1 Garand = termite gun.

You should have just said that did not know anything about the Garand.

Actually,he did. He just doesn't know it. That's why it's so funny.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   9:34:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#19)

Shit, a Russian SKS is a better rifle

LOL! That was hilarious!

The SKS is nothing more than a tool for untrained farmers and other cannon fodder. There is no way it even compares to the M1 Garand.

Sarajevo  posted on  2009-12-20   9:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: sneakypete (#3)

A M-1 as in "Garand"?

I'm at work and can't post the link right now, but google the Civilian Marksmanship Program. If you meet their requirements, you can purchase an M1 Garand at a reduced price.

tri.army. mil/LC/CS/csl/ci..._marksmanship_program.htm

The link is in the lower left.

Sarajevo  posted on  2009-12-20   9:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Fred Mertz, White Sands (#43)

You're Jewish? I had no idea.

Me,either. Especially after having people at LP expose me as a anti-Semite.

Not to mention somebody that hates Jews.

See 4um for details.

It's amazing what you learn on the internet,ain't it?

Why,for example,I learned right here on LF last night thanks to White Sands that I am a Obama supporter and a DNC shill that has never found fault with Obama or any other Dim,and had never even made ONE single post critical of any Dim at any time.

Who knew?

That White Sands. He shore be knowledgeable and insightful,huh? With people like him supporting her,how can Palin lose?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   9:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Sarajevo (#49)

I'm at work and can't post the link right now, but google the Civilian Marksmanship Program. If you meet their requirements, you can purchase an M1 Garand at a reduced price.

Thank you. Mine just happens to be a 1943 Winchester version.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   9:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Sarajevo (#48)

LOL! That was hilarious!

The SKS is nothing more than a tool for untrained farmers and other cannon fodder. There is no way it even compares to the M1 Garand.

Sorry, the SKS continued to shoulder on for nearly 50 years AFTER the Garand had been "retired" to feed the local termite population in American firearms collectors.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-20   11:20:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: sneakypete (#46) (Edited)

LOL! I guess! The only difference is only one of understands the issue.

Right!

And you don't realize that the US Army DUMPED the M1 for the M-14, but we'll stick with the M1A instead.

Tell me, Mr. Expert, how is the M1 Garand "superior" to the M-14 or M1A?

And, since the M-14 first entered service in 1959, that would make it's tenure in the US Military some 50 years.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-20   11:30:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: sneakypete, Joe Snuffy (#22)

Professional Instruction to go with it

Here is some REALLY good marital advise. DO NOT TEACH HER YOURSELF. Hire somebody else to do it. Seriously.

I have taken her to the range probably 10 times, just to introduce her to firing a weapon. Multiple weapons actually. We started small and progressed from there.

This advice is the best yet and is something I had already decided on. LOL!

Thanks guys. BTW, I think I'll take your advice on the .22lr. Sounds like good solid advice. Thanks again.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-20   11:39:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#52)

Sorry, the SKS continued to shoulder on for nearly 50 years AFTER the Garand had been "retired" to feed the local termite population in American firearms collectors.

Just out of curiosity,who taught you all this nonsense?

It's obvious you have no personal experience with any of these weapons,or if you do it is very limited.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   12:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#53)

And you don't realize that the US Army DUMPED the M1 for the M-14, but we'll stick with the M1A instead.

You DO realize you are trying to debate military weapons with a former career US Army SF weapons NCO,right?

Not to mention a school trained gunsmith who has built custom rifles and even created his own wildcat round?

There are several people on this board who are qualified to debate this subject with me,but you ain't one of them.

Tell me, Mr. Expert, how is the M1 Garand "superior" to the M-14 or M1A?

You mean other than fit,finish,reliability,range,and accuracy?

And, since the M-14 first entered service in 1959, that would make it's tenure in the US Military some 50 years.

Ok,and that is supposed to indicate what?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   12:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: We The People (#54)

This advice is the best yet and is something I had already decided on. LOL!

Yeah,it really doesn't take long to figure that one out,does it? The high-pitched shrieking in your ears,the claw marks,and the letter from a divorce attorney are dead giveaways.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   12:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: sneakypete (#56)

You DO realize you are trying to debate military weapons with a former career US Army SF weapons NCO,right?

Not to mention a school trained gunsmith who has built custom rifles and even created his own wildcat round?

Wow!

Damned impressive Pete.

I knew you had some background, but I had no idea!

We The People  posted on  2009-12-20   12:50:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: sneakypete (#56)

Are you a licensed dealer Pete?

If so you probably just picked up another customer.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-20   12:52:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: sneakypete (#56)

You DO realize you are trying to debate military weapons with a former career US Army SF weapons NCO,right?

Not to mention a school trained gunsmith who has built custom rifles and even created his own wildcat round?

Hmmm...well if you can see fit to refute the entire US Army and the brass in the Pentagon, why not?

Secondly, you look pathetic blowing your own horn here.

You're a good guy and all, but your in a definate minority of firearms "experts", if I may use that term, when it comes to the Garand and how it performs w/r/t modern rifles.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-20   13:07:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: sneakypete (#56)

And, since the M-14 first entered service in 1959, that would make it's tenure in the US Military some 50 years.

Ok,and that is supposed to indicate what?

Fuck son, if I have to connect the dots for you on this, you have a lot to learn about modern combat and weaponry.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-20   13:08:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#61)

And, since the M-14 first entered service in 1959, that would make it's tenure in the US Military some 50 years.

Ok,and that is supposed to indicate what?

Fuck son, if I have to connect the dots for you on this, you have a lot to learn about modern combat and weaponry.

So what is your background and what are your credentials on this subject?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-20   13:14:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: sneakypete, Nebuchadnezzar (#47)

Actually,he did. He just doesn't know it. That's why it's so funny.

LOL! Yeah, that is what I was trying to indicate. Reminds me of some sort of politician, you know, those abnormal mentalities who actually believe a few topical buzzwords and a lot of arrogant opinion is going to fool everyone.

eskimo  posted on  2009-12-20   13:36:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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