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Title: Seasteading: Floating Cities To Liberate Humanity From Politicians Are Here
Source: YouTube
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssxWvcXOspU
Published: Jan 13, 2018
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2018-03-09 20:48:12 by buckeroo
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Views: 3242
Comments: 35


Here is one way out of the global mess.

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Seasteading: Floating Cities To Liberate Humanity From Politicians Are Here

Sorry to say this, but politics has existed since before fire was discovered, and will always follow any form of civilization, whether floating or land based.

One thing floating nations could possibly offer though is the ability for citizens to quit one and join the other. So long as they bring their own floating domicile to link up to the rest, there's little reason one such country would have to refuse entry. Or perhaps attachment would be a better word. And if there's one area of global politics that might be an improvement, it would be the ability for citizens to quit one country and join another. As is, governments enjoy a monopoly of forced loyalty by those who happen to be born within it's borders. Give people the ability to vote with their feet, or in this case their paddles, and thereby give governments a need to compete for citizens, and we might see governments actually give a whit about their citizens well being.

Certainly with land based countries there's a strong reason to keep out foreigners, but with a sea-based "bring your own land" type of situation, it could be quite different.

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#8. To: Pinguinite (#3)

Sorry to say this, but politics has existed since before fire was discovered, and will always follow any form of civilization, whether floating or land based.

Yup. EXACTLY.

ALL society/"civilization" REQUIRES a leader and leadership. Leadership = Organizers of COMMON/SET RULES = "POLITICS."

If not, all we have is...Anarchy.

Even the most Libertarian among us must concede RULES are needed. OVERSEERS/SUPERVISORS/LEADERS are needed.

One thing floating nations could possibly offer though is the ability for citizens to quit one and join the other. So long as they bring their own floating domicile to link up to the rest, there's little reason one such country would have to refuse entry. Or perhaps attachment would be a better word.

Wouldn't International Maritime Laws apply?

If it floats, it's technically a Naval vessel (even IF this Utopian Floating Island declares itself "Sovereign.") It would require official permission from its host sovereign nation to dock or attached itself to the host nation.

I could see reasons to deny entry. For one, obstruction of shipping routes; Obtrusive to host-nation natives; "Politics" (ironically)...

And if there's one area of global politics that might be an improvement, it would be the ability for citizens to quit one country and join another.

Yes...it's a nice sentiment or option. But...we can run but we can't hide. And don't you think the "citizenship" aboard such an exclusive Utopian Island might be rather pricey?

Give people the ability to vote with their feet, or in this case their paddles, and thereby give governments a need to compete for citizens, and we might see governments actually give a whit about their citizens well being.

I really think it's way too late for that; The US appears to be the last great stand for freedom that we humans can make. But given we are humans, we can't tolerate freedom. The suicidal West and fascist-Communist Democrat Party proves it.

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