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Title: FBI Used Paid Informants On Best Buy's Geek Squad To Flag Child Pornography
Source: NPR
URL Source: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo ... quad-to-flag-child-pornography
Published: Mar 7, 2018
Author: staff
Post Date: 2018-03-07 20:19:44 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 3111
Comments: 56

The FBI paid Best Buy Geek Squad employees as informants, rewarding them for flagging indecent material when people brought their computers in for repair.

That's according to documents released to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital civil liberties organization, which filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit seeking records that might show warrantless searches of people's devices.

EFF filed its complaint last year after revelations about the FBI's interactions with Geek Squad technicians emerged in the case of Mark Rettenmaier, an Orange County, Calif., physician and surgeon who took his computer in for repair when it wouldn't boot up. Rettenmaier faced child pornography charges after a Geek Squad employee flagged his computer to the FBI.

In May, a federal judge threw out almost all the evidence (which prosecutors said included hundreds of images of child pornography) because of "false and misleading statements" an FBI agent made in an affidavit to get a search warrant for Rettenmaier's house. The government ended up dropping the charges against him.

The records now released to EFF shed a bit more light on the relationship between Best Buy and the FBI. The documents show a range of interactions: a $500 payment from the FBI to a Geek Squad employee, a meeting of the agency's Cyber Working Group at Best Buy's computer repair facility in Kentucky, and a number of investigations in which Geek Squad employees called the FBI field office in Louisville after finding suspected child pornography.

A key question is whether Best Buy employees "go fishing" in customers' devices with the goal of helping the FBI.

That's what Rettenmaier's attorney James Riddet argued a Geek Squad technician had done when he searched the "unallocated space" of Rettenmaier's computer, where he found an image that was used to persuade a judge to grant a search warrant for his home.

"Their relationship is so cozy," Riddet told The Washington Post last year, "and so extensive that it turns searches by Best Buy into government searches. If they're going to set up that network between Best Buy supervisors and FBI agents, you run the risk that Best Buy is a branch of the FBI."

Best Buy tells NPR that it does indeed report discovery of child pornography to law enforcement, citing a "moral and, in more than 20 states, a legal obligation" to do so — but it says it prohibits employees from looking for "anything other than what is necessary to solve the customer's problem." EFF says it is concerned the FBI is using Geek Squad informants to conduct private searches as a means of circumventing Fourth Amendment protections against warrantless searches.

"[T]he FBI's Geek Squad informants should plainly qualify as agents of the government," EFF wrote in May. "The records disclosed thus far indicate that FBI agents paid Geek Squad informants to conduct these wide-ranging searches of customers' devices, suggesting that officials both knew about the searches and directed the informants to conduct them. The payments Geek Squad informants received also demonstrate that they conducted the searches with the intent to assist the FBI."

Best Buy says it has "not sought or received training from law enforcement in how to search for child pornography" and has "redoubled our efforts to train employees on what to do — and not do — in these circumstances."

The company says that three of the four employees who allegedly received payment from the FBI for turning over child pornography are no longer with the company, and the fourth was reprimanded and reassigned. "Any decision to accept payment was in very poor judgement and inconsistent with our training and policies," it said in a statement to NPR.

The FBI would not comment on the matter, citing ongoing litigation. "In addition," a spokesman said in an email to NPR, "the FBI does not provide any information on the dealings with informants, for obvious reasons."


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#9. To: buckeroo (#0)

The records now released to EFF shed a bit more light on the relationship between Best Buy and the FBI. The documents show a range of interactions: a $500 payment from the FBI to a Geek Squad employee

Gee - there's no incentive there for the employee to "plant" the child porn on the computer to make a quick and easy 500 bucks, is there?

Child porn is bad - OK? But this kind of crap is outrageous - almost as bad as the FBI running Not Just One But 24 Dark Web Child-Porn Websites.

Deckard  posted on  2018-03-08   6:22:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Deckard, A K A Stone, GrandIsland (#9)

Child porn is bad - OK?
No, it’s NOT okay and what you are doing is SO wrong..

First you stand up for the globalist against Trump and now you are for protecting child porn perverts against the FBI all because of your severe hatred for law enforcement.

Is there ABOLUTELY no END to your MADNESS?

What has gotten to you?

Not only you, but also Bucky and hondo.

You all are are some deranged idiots.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-03-08   20:36:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Gatlin (#30) (Edited)

First you stand up for the globalist against Trump and now you are for protecting child porn perverts

You sure like to make shit up, don't you.

I just agreed that child porn is bad.

In May, a federal judge threw out almost all the evidence (which prosecutors said included hundreds of images of child pornography) because of "false and misleading statements" an FBI agent made in an affidavit to get a search warrant for Rettenmaier's house.

The government ended up dropping the charges against him.

In this particular fishing expedition, the charges were DROPPED because the Feebs lied to get a warrant.

Apparently you believe that it's fine and dandy for the FBI to "make shit up" in an attempt to get a warrant.

Apparently? Hell no - you have championed this sort of bullshit from cops ever since you've posted your cop-worshiping screeds on this chit chat channel and most likely all of your submissive life.

I'll say this one more time Parsons - child porn is bad.

Deckard  posted on  2018-03-09   8:49:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Deckard (#36)

I'll say this one more time Parsons - child porn is bad.
I’ll say this is response – let the FBI do the job they are LEGALLY doing to stamp out child porn and get off of their ass while you continue to condemn LE for its every more.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-03-09   9:00:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Gatlin (#38) (Edited)

let the FBI do the job they are LEGALLY doing to stamp out child porn

If they had compelling evidence, why did they LIE to get a warrant?

Why are they not prosecuted for distributing child porn via their own websites?

Deckard  posted on  2018-03-09   9:01:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Deckard (#39)

let the FBI do the job they are LEGALLY doing to stamp out child porn

If they had compelling evidence, why did they LIE to get a warrant?

How do you know that is the real REASON the federal judge threw out almost all the evidence?

Oh, because some MSM asshole journalist told you to believe that and since it was what you wanted to believe...then you did.

Do you always believe what the MSM states, or do you only believe it when you want to? We both know the answer to this question.

Get REAL, Deckard.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-03-09   9:12:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Gatlin (#42)

How do you know that is the real REASON the federal judge threw out almost all the evidence?

Here ya go - do you know how to click on an embedded link?

In May, a federal judge threw out almost all the evidence (which prosecutors said included hundreds of images of child pornography) because of "false and misleading statements" an FBI agent made in an affidavit to get a search warrant for Rettenmaier's house. The government ended up dropping the charges against him.

The records now released to EFF shed a bit more light on the relationship between Best Buy and the FBI. The documents show a range of interactions: a $500 payment from the FBI to a Geek Squad employee, a meeting of the agency's Cyber Working Group at Best Buy's computer repair facility in Kentucky, and a number of investigations in which Geek Squad employees called the FBI field office in Louisville after finding suspected child pornography.

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The issue centers on the description of what officials call "the Jenny image" that allegedly was found in unallocated space on Rettenmaier's computer after he took it to Best Buy for repairs. The image is of a nude pre-pubescent girl on her hands and knees on a bed wearing a choker collar around her neck. In an affidavit, FBI agent Cynthia Kayle described it as child pornography.

However, Rettenmaier's attorneys argued in a January hearing — and Carney ultimately agreed in his ruling — that the image was instead child erotica. For a photo to be considered child pornography under federal guidelines, it must depict sexual intercourse, lascivious exhibition of genitals, bestiality, masturbation or sadomasochistic abuse.

"However, the Jenny image, although distasteful and disturbing, was not child pornography," Carney said, according to transcripts of last week's hearing. "It was child erotica, the possession and viewing of which is not unlawful."

Deckard  posted on  2018-03-09   9:24:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Deckard (#45)

In May, a federal judge threw out almost all the evidence (which prosecutors said included hundreds of images of child pornography) because of "false and misleading statements" ...

That is not true. The judge decided that that the “image was instead child erotica and not child pornography

For a photo to be considered child pornography under federal guidelines, it must depict sexual intercourse, lascivious exhibition of genitals, bestiality, masturbation or sadomasochistic abuse.

You are sticking up for some doctor pervert that using “child erottica” to get his kicks?

HOW DARE YOU !!!

Don’t you have better and more socially accepted things to do …

Gatlin  posted on  2018-03-09   11:10:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Gatlin (#49)

You are sticking up for some doctor pervert that using “child erottica” to get his kicks?

Nice try Gatslime I'm pointing out the illegality of the search which the prosecutors also admitted its illegality.

The point is the images are not illegal.

They are distasteful to be sure - but not illegal.

You may recall that parents have had their kids taken away back in the day when film was processed away from home - for having pictures of their kids in a bathtub and playfully posed on towels.

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"Some of the photos are bath time photos," Lisa said, "but there are a few after the bath. Three of the girls are naked, laying on a towel with their arms around each other, and we thought it was so cute."

Investigators went to the Demaree home to question them and search their residence.

A.J. Demaree said he could understand why the police were there, but he said the pictures were innocuous snapshots of his kids goofing around, and some of them involved the children being naked.

The police and Child Protective Services saw it very differently.

The three children, ages 1½, 4 and 5 at the time the pictures were taken, were removed from the home and placed into the care of Child Protective Services.

It would be a month before A.J. and Lisa could regain custody of them.

A medical exam of the children revealed no signs of sexual abuse, and a judge ruled that the photos were in fact harmless.

Deckard  posted on  2018-03-09   11:34:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Deckard (#52)

I am shocked, I tell you….shocked beyond belief.

The judge said child erotica is okay.

Surely you must know that the definition of erotica is: “literature or picture intended to arouse sexual desire.”

So, it’s perfectly okay for you to have some perverts use the picture of a poor little naked girl to masturbate over?

What in heavens name is wrong with your mind?

First you want everyone to have free access to all drugs including heroin, then you become a globalist and now you want “child erotica” openly distributed to all perverts.

My God, man ….is the depth of your depravity and ignorance seemingly bottomless?

I am shocked, I tell you….shocked beyond belief.

Now….I am definitely finished.

PERVERT !!!

Gatlin  posted on  2018-03-09   11:47:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#55. To: Gatlin (#54)

I am shocked, I tell you….shocked beyond belief.

Now….I am definitely finished.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-09 11:50:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Gatlin (#54)

So, it’s perfectly okay for you to have some perverts use the picture of a poor little naked girl to masturbate over?

Keep lying Parsons.

I have not once defended this guy or the picture - grow the fuck up.

The fact remains - what he had was not child porn by the legal definition.

What is so difficult about that simple fact for you to grasp?

Deckard  posted on  2018-03-09 13:04:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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