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Title: Parkland Shooting First Responder Comes Forward, Says He Was Told to “Stand Down”
Source: Free Thought Project/WSVN Miami
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/pa ... onder-says-given-stand-orders/
Published: Feb 28, 2018
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2018-03-02 06:37:30 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 3308
Comments: 31

“I could’ve saved lives,” said the first responder.

In the two weeks since the tragic shooting occurred in Parkland, Florida, we have learned that cops cowered outside instead of helping, the police and FBI were all warned on multiple occasions that the alleged shooter, Nikolas Cruz, told people he was going to shoot up the school, and nearly two dozen people reported Cruz for death threats. Now, however, we are learning that not only did the cops cower in fear instead of saving lives, but they told first responders not to help.

“Everything I was trained on mass casualty events says they did the wrong thing,” said the first responder, who spoke with WSVN Miami News 7 reporter Brian Entin on the condition of anonymity.

“You don’t wait for the scene to be cleared. You go in immediately armed. Retrieve the victims. You can’t leave the victims laying there,” he explained.

But they could not go in.

As the man explained to WSVN, he was telling officials that he needed to go in, but they told him not to.

“We were asking to go in. Asking the scene commander to go in. Why are we all standing around? Why are we not having patients to treat? Why are we not going into the building and retrieving these kids? The response every time was law enforcement did not clear the scene and would not allow medical personnel in,” he said.

Arguably, the death toll could’ve been far less had emergency medical personnel been allowed in as some of the victims lay bleeding for nearly an hour. Indeed, the first responder agrees.

“I would hypothesize I could have saved lives. I can’t say for sure,” he said, adding, “I would have risked my life to go in. I was eager to.”

“I was frustrated the entire time I was there,” said the first responder, explaining the disheartening scene.

“Rapid evacuation of the wounded. All they had to do was drag them out of the building. And we could have started medical care,” he said.

The first responder said that police made that decision at the time but noted that it was the wrong decision. “I don’t think it was the right one,” he said. “They should have been more aggressive about getting the victims out.”

“Can’t say for sure if the people were dead inside or if they could have helped,” he added.

He then explained that he saw at least one victim who had to wait 45 minutes before getting loaded into an ambulance. “Frustrating” doesn’t even begin to describe the level of anger and pain the parents and families of the victims must feel knowing that their child laid bleeding out as cops told paramedics not to help them.

It wasn’t just paramedics who were told to stand down either. As FOX News host Laura Ingraham revealed this week, police were told to stand down too unless they had on body cameras—as if a body camera somehow makes a police officer better at stopping a school shooter.

“Broward County sheriff’s deputies were supposedly told not to enter Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School unless they had body cameras on, which they did not have,” reported The Daily Wire. “Ingraham also revealed that police ‘lost radio transmissions’ during the shooting, which also happened at the mass shooting at Fort Lauderdale airport shooting last year, which is also in Broward County.”

As more details continue to emerge about this tragic incident, the ones who are seemingly most responsible for the death toll, other than the shooter, seem to be the ones who claim to keep people safe. It appears in this instance, however, that they did the exact opposite.

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#3. To: Deckard (#0)

They were paying their respects to their God,"Officer Safety". NOBODY is more important than "Officer Safety". It's Dogma # 1.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-02   10:26:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#3)

" They were paying their respects to their God,"Officer Safety". NOBODY is more important than "Officer Safety". It's Dogma # 1.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. "

I know they are not, but those SOB's should be ashamed. They are not fit to guard a bucket of shit !!!

If they are typical, then no one should worry about gun confiscations.

Pete, I think you have served in combat. Can you imagine if you had guys like that in your squad ??

Stoner  posted on  2018-03-02   11:12:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Stoner (#5)

Pete, I think you have served in combat. Can you imagine if you had guys like that in your squad ??

ALL soldiers are taught to run TOWARDS the sound of gunfire.

I'm afraid most of us wouldn't qualify to be a cop in today's world.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-02   17:29:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete (#13)

Some of the info in the article below seems good while parts of it seems like bullshit. I was not on the ground there, so you would know better that I which is which. I never heard of Brigadier General Samuel Lyman Atwood Marshall and neither do I know his book. So, I read the article and though perhaps you may have an interest in reading it to.

Men Against Fire: How Many Soldiers Actually Fired Their Weapons at the Enemy During the Vietnam War

Gatlin  posted on  2018-03-02   22:27:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Gatlin (#25) (Edited)

Some of the info in the article below seems good while parts of it seems like bullshit. I was not on the ground there, so you would know better that I which is which. I never heard of Brigadier General Samuel Lyman Atwood Marshall and neither do I know his book. So, I read the article and though perhaps you may have an interest in reading it to.

Men Against Fire: How Many Soldiers Actually Fired Their Weapons at the Enemy During the Vietnam War

SLA Marshall is THE authority on this stuff. It was actually his job to check into things like this and report on it.

IRRC,Marshall reported on dead GI's and Marines being found on battlefields in Korea where their positions had been overran,and their rifles were unfired. Marshall published this,which did NOT make him popular with a lot of political creatures in and out of uniform.

And I don't see the results from the Korean war being any different than the results from any other war. People are people,and are not about to do something against their nature.

Just about ever piece of combat film footage you see from the VN war to the wars of today in the various Shitstainistans shows most soldiers firing wildly,and some even ducking behind things and holding their weapons up over their heads and firing blindly. There are very few that take deliberate aim and fire individual shots.

This is one reason why I thought it was in some ways safer to be in in a airborne unit or SF than the regular army. People that volunteer for the "out on the edge" combat units generally ain't shy about firing people up.

To repeat,SLA Marshall is the Gold Standard on the conduct of individual soldiers in battle.

BTW,it was Marshall's reporting on (and I WILL get these numbers wrong) that out of 10 riflemen in battle,on average 2 will take deliberate aim at and shoot to kill an enemy soldier,2 or 3 would refuse to shoot at all,and the rest would shoot in the general direction of the enemy without taking aim. His reporting was responsible for the idea to modernize the US Military by issuing each soldier a fully-automatic rifle,believing the "spray and pray" method would increase the hits of the 4 or 5 that would just point their weapons in the general direction of the enemy,close their eyes,and fire.

Prior to the introduction of the AR-15 to the US military,US military doctrine was to have ONE fully automatic weapon per infantry squad,and for the rest of the squad members to be issued semi-automatic weapons. In WW-1,WW-2,and the Korean War,that automatic rifle was the sweetheart known as the BAR. After the Korean War and up through the early days of the VN War (66 or 67) that was still doctrine with conventional infantry units. In those days the standard issue battle rifle was an M-14,with one in each squad having the fire control selector switch added to make it an automatic rifle if automatic fire was required. It was OK,but it was no BAR!

The only two individual weapons I have ever heard senior NCO's who had been in firefights speak of with love in their eyes and voices were the BAR and the 1911A1 45ACP pistol. Never heard anybody say they loved their M-14 or M16.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-03   14:34:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: sneakypete (#26)

Thank you.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-03-03   17:14:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Gatlin (#29)

Thank you.

You're welcome. Hope it helped.

General Julian Hatcher is the man whose book (Hatchers Notebook) it is you want to read if you are curious about FACTS related to ballistics and firearms in general. He spent decades as the Chief of the US Army Ordinance Board,and he was more of a scientist than he was a soldier. Hatcher's Notebook in in MY opinion THE most informative book about ammunition,firearms,and their uses and limitations that has ever been written. I bought my copy back in the mid-70's and still consider it to be the most informative book I have ever bought.

Want to find out the truth about the lethality of a bullet fired up into the air and then falls back to Earth? Hatcher investigated this in the 20's or 30's,and he did it using scientific methods under tightly controlled conditions. Because of his research "volley fire" became a thing of the past in most militaries . I used to own a British SMLE Type 1 .303 British rifle that was issued with a brass rear site on the buttstock,and I THINK (CRS syndrome) a brass front sight out near the muzzle that could be flipped up for "volley fire". Think "shooting a basketball from mid-court" and you will understand it was "military speak" for "lobbing them in".

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-03   19:06:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#30)

Yea, it really did help.

I respect your opinion.

The article makes sense to me now that I know he is a respected authority.

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