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Title: Parkland Shooting First Responder Comes Forward, Says He Was Told to “Stand Down”
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Free Thought Project/WSVN Miami
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/pa ... onder-says-given-stand-orders/
Published: Feb 28, 2018
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2018-03-02 06:37:30 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 2779
Comments: 31
In the two weeks since the tragic shooting occurred in Parkland, Florida, we have learned that cops cowered outside instead of helping, the police and FBI were all warned on multiple occasions that the alleged shooter, Nikolas Cruz, told people he was going to shoot up the school, and nearly two dozen people reported Cruz for death threats. Now, however, we are learning that not only did the cops cower in fear instead of saving lives, but they told first responders not to help. “Everything I was trained on mass casualty events says they did the wrong thing,” said the first responder, who spoke with WSVN Miami News 7 reporter Brian Entin on the condition of anonymity. “You don’t wait for the scene to be cleared. You go in immediately armed. Retrieve the victims. You can’t leave the victims laying there,” he explained. But they could not go in. As the man explained to WSVN, he was telling officials that he needed to go in, but they told him not to. “We were asking to go in. Asking the scene commander to go in. Why are we all standing around? Why are we not having patients to treat? Why are we not going into the building and retrieving these kids? The response every time was law enforcement did not clear the scene and would not allow medical personnel in,” he said. Arguably, the death toll could’ve been far less had emergency medical personnel been allowed in as some of the victims lay bleeding for nearly an hour. Indeed, the first responder agrees. “I would hypothesize I could have saved lives. I can’t say for sure,” he said, adding, “I would have risked my life to go in. I was eager to.” “I was frustrated the entire time I was there,” said the first responder, explaining the disheartening scene. “Rapid evacuation of the wounded. All they had to do was drag them out of the building. And we could have started medical care,” he said. The first responder said that police made that decision at the time but noted that it was the wrong decision. “I don’t think it was the right one,” he said. “They should have been more aggressive about getting the victims out.” “Can’t say for sure if the people were dead inside or if they could have helped,” he added. He then explained that he saw at least one victim who had to wait 45 minutes before getting loaded into an ambulance. “Frustrating” doesn’t even begin to describe the level of anger and pain the parents and families of the victims must feel knowing that their child laid bleeding out as cops told paramedics not to help them. It wasn’t just paramedics who were told to stand down either. As FOX News host Laura Ingraham revealed this week, police were told to stand down too unless they had on body cameras—as if a body camera somehow makes a police officer better at stopping a school shooter. “Broward County sheriff’s deputies were supposedly told not to enter Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School unless they had body cameras on, which they did not have,” reported The Daily Wire. “Ingraham also revealed that police ‘lost radio transmissions’ during the shooting, which also happened at the mass shooting at Fort Lauderdale airport shooting last year, which is also in Broward County.” As more details continue to emerge about this tragic incident, the ones who are seemingly most responsible for the death toll, other than the shooter, seem to be the ones who claim to keep people safe. It appears in this instance, however, that they did the exact opposite. “I could’ve saved lives,” said the first responder.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
I think about half these 17 dead students bled out, just waiting for the cops to arrive, clear the scene and finally allow medics to begin first aid and transport.
How many were shot during the four minutes the school resource officer cowered outside?
They were paying their respects to their God,"Officer Safety". NOBODY is more important than "Officer Safety". It's Dogma # 1.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
The Broward sheriff is very silent about that. Yet it seems his deputies are still protecting the home of the SRO from reporters. Apparently they're blocking the street off. That seems suspicious, considering no cop lives there.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. " I know they are not, but those SOB's should be ashamed. They are not fit to guard a bucket of shit !!! If they are typical, then no one should worry about gun confiscations. Pete, I think you have served in combat. Can you imagine if you had guys like that in your squad ?? Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)
Total irony if those deputies refused to stop a shooter from attacking Peterson.
As the man explained to WSVN, he was telling officials that he needed to go in, but they told him not to. Wow. BOMB-SHELL.
Yup. Peterson is their "hero" for helping "The Cause." ONE OF THEM.
A "conspiracy"? Or "coincidence"? I'm glad you're connecting the dots.
If there's no full out Feral Investigation into this charade (especially after ZERO Investigation in to the Fake Vegas "investigation"), shovel dirt on The Law and Constitution right now. Have The Bad Guys and Deep State really taken over ALL the reins of Justice in this country?
Yes, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump. We're doomed unless we break out of the D&R party lock-box. The same Thing WaTching The sTudenTs Is dishearTening Love If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
ALL soldiers are taught to run TOWARDS the sound of gunfire. I'm afraid most of us wouldn't qualify to be a cop in today's world. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Oh,woe iz me! If ONLY one of the usual suspects had been elected instead of Trump,numma does poor chil-runs would be dead today! In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Broward Sheriff Scott Israel has said BSO training and nationwide active-shooter procedure call for armed law enforcement officers to confront shooters immediately rather than secure a scene. Why she did not immediately do that and decided to establish a perimeter is unknown. The logs indicate that at the same time these commands were given, law enforcement still had not located the active shooter. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is investigating all of the responding agencies and timeline of the day of the shooting it will surely be revealed why after the results of the ongoing investigation are released. 1 1a However, two law enforcement officials said the call for staging or a perimeter might not have been a bad call because staging and a perimeter eventually has to happen during most emergency situations and the commanding officer might have had information the rest of the crews did not. 1a According to a portion of the dispatch log, there was a call that came in at 2:23 p.m. from a female student about shots fired. At 2:25 p.m., more “SHOTS FIRED” were recorded by responding officers or witnesses. At 2:26 p.m., the log indicated another call came in advising the shooting was coming from “THE 1200 BLDG.” At 2:26:56 p.m., Cruz was still firing, according to units on scene. “UNITS ADV SHOTS FIRED” the log read. At 2:29 p.m., the log indicated responding officers did not know where Cruz was. “UKNOWN SHOOTER LOCATION,” the log read. At 2:30 another active shooter call was logged, that a mother of a student advised, “HE HEARD SHOTS FIRED HE IS IN 11th GRADE IN A MATH CLASS UNK ROOM NUMBER.” At this point, eleven minutes after it was believed Cruz first opened fire, the log indicated one of the commanding officers started ordering responding officers to begin forming a perimeter, which one law enforcement source said would go against all training to first neutralize the threat. At 2:32 p.m., the dispatch call log indicated the first command to form a perimeter was issued, “17S1…NEED PERIMETER.” Sources told Fox News the 17S1 insignia on the log that day is important because it is the insignia, or code, for who was making the commands. 17S1 stands for 17 Sierra One. A short while later, as the dispatch log indicated the whereabouts of the shooter was unknown; the first command to “stage” apparently was given. 2:34:48 p.m., “17S1 STAGE SIDE SAWGRASS.” Then, three minutes after that staging order, the log indicated the scene was still active as emergency aircrews indicated they would not go because it hadn’t been confirmed the shooter was in custody. 2:38 p.m., “AIR RESCUE ADVISED NOT LAUNCING UNTIL CONFIRMED SUBJ IS IN CUSTODY,” the log read. At 2:47 p.m., 15 minutes after the first command to form a perimeter was issued and 13 minutes after the first command to stage was issued, the log indicated the SWAT team entered the school. At 3:02 p.m., the log apparently indicated the 20-minute delay in surveillance that law enforcement was using to track down Cruz. “20 MIN DELAY FROM CAMERA HE EXITED THE BUILDING RUNNING SOUTH,” the log stated. At 3:03 p.m. the log stated, “VIDEO SHOWS HE POSS MIXED WITH KIDS.” At 3:10 the log indicated Nikolas Cruz has been identified by a baseball coach, “POSS STUDENT NICHOLAS CRUSE 43 FROM BASEBALL COACH.” At 3:16 the log indicated Cruz was identified again. “UNIT ADV ON DISPATCH 11A THAT THE SUBJ IS POSS A WM NAMED NICHOLAS CRUZ, WM LSAW A BURG SHIRT, BLK SHORTS, WAS LAST SEEN ON S/E END OF THE SCHOOL…” the log stated. Eventually, Cruz was apprehended near the school. He is currently in custody.
Broward Sheriff Scott Israel has said BSO training and nationwide active-shooter procedure call for armed law enforcement officers to confront shooters immediately rather than secure a scene. Why she did not immediately do that and decided to establish a perimeter is unknown. Yep. Yep.
I can tell you this - he sure wasn't outside the school where the cops were cowering. The logs indicate that at the same time these commands were given, law enforcement still had not located the active shooter. So - instead of actually going into the school and searching for the shooter - the brave "heroes" were ordered to wait outside? Yeah - that sounds about right. Broward Sheriff Scott Israel has said BSO training and nationwide active-shooter procedure call for armed law enforcement officers to confront shooters immediately rather than secure a scene. And yet they did not do that, did they? Great job defending the cowardice of the "heroes" at the scene Parsons - Doubleplussgood! I can tell you this - he sure wasn't outside the school where the cops were cowering. Since the log shows that LEOs did not know where he was, I ask you again to “please intelligently explain to everyone how LEOs can immediately confront the shooter when they did not know where the shooter was.” Well ???
They follow protocols, do their jobs and search for the shooter. Following the sound of the gunfire and the bleeding students would be a good start Your repetitive questions which have already been answered are becoming quite tiresome - with all due respect, piss off. So - instead of actually going into the school and searching for the shooter - Yeah - that sounds about right. There was a report that someone was shot at the football field. So, if LEOs had rushed inside and started searching for the shooter while he was at the football field….then you could have ridiculed them to an even greater extent. Right? We will need to wait until the Florida Department of Law Enforcement releases the findings of their investigation to determine if that was the right decision or the wrong decision. Unless of course you have some divine knowledge by being in contact with “the Man upstairs.”
They follow protocols ... …do their jobs and search for the shooter. Following the sound of the gunfire … Following….bleeding students … LEOs did not know what weapon he had. If they rush in, the shooter can be any student with a pistol hidden in a back pack. and run right by them. Or, better still…he slips by all the LEOs since they don’t know who they should be looking for and walks down the street blocks form the school. WAIT….that’s what acutally happened.
The logs indicate that at the same time these commands were given, law enforcement still had not located the active shooter. 1a Had Matt Agorist not been so hell bent on writing a biased yellow journalism article condemning law enforcement, he could have checked as I did and found out that: Moser said RTF was presented to the commanding officers of the Broward Sheriff’s Office, but the request was denied because the type of response was not appropriate at that time, since the location of the shooter was not known. RTF can be employed only when law enforcement can clear an area for EMS. Either Matt Agorst did not do due diligence and exercise care that a reasonable journalist exercises to present truth….or, Matt Agorst knew this and intentionally omitted reporting in his effort to do what he always tries to do, and that is to paint LEO as bad hombres. In either case, he is a agenda driven asshole.
“You don’t wait for the scene to be cleared. You go in immediately armed. Retrieve the victims. You can’t leave the victims laying there,” he explained. But they could not go in. As the man explained to WSVN, he was telling officials that he needed to go in, but they told him not to. “We were asking to go in. Asking the scene commander to go in. Why are we all standing around? Why are we not having patients to treat? Why are we not going into the building and retrieving these kids? The response every time was law enforcement did not clear the scene and would not allow medical personnel in,” he said. Arguably, the death toll could’ve been far less had emergency medical personnel been allowed in as some of the victims lay bleeding for nearly an hour. Indeed, the first responder agrees. “I would hypothesize I could have saved lives. I can’t say for sure,” he said, adding, “I would have risked my life to go in. I was eager to.” “I was frustrated the entire time I was there,” said the first responder, explaining the disheartening scene. “Rapid evacuation of the wounded. All they had to do was drag them out of the building. And we could have started medical care,” he said. The first responder said that police made that decision at the time but noted that it was the wrong decision. “I don’t think it was the right one,” he said. “They should have been more aggressive about getting the victims out.” “Can’t say for sure if the people were dead inside or if they could have helped,” he added. He then explained that he saw at least one victim who had to wait 45 minutes before getting loaded into an ambulance. “Frustrating” doesn’t even begin to describe the level of anger and pain the parents and families of the victims must feel knowing that their child laid bleeding out as cops told paramedics not to help them. Look that Matt Argost made absolutely no mention of: Moser said RTF was presented to the commanding officers of the Broward Sheriff’s Office, but the request was denied because the type of response was not appropriate at that time, since the location of the shooter was not known. RTF can be employed only when law enforcement can clear an area for EMS. Damn….I hate yellow journalism with a passion.
Some of the info in the article below seems good while parts of it seems like bullshit. I was not on the ground there, so you would know better that I which is which. I never heard of Brigadier General Samuel Lyman Atwood Marshall and neither do I know his book. So, I read the article and though perhaps you may have an interest in reading it to. Men Against Fire: How Many Soldiers Actually Fired Their Weapons at the Enemy During the Vietnam War
Some of the info in the article below seems good while parts of it seems like bullshit. I was not on the ground there, so you would know better that I which is which. I never heard of Brigadier General Samuel Lyman Atwood Marshall and neither do I know his book. So, I read the article and though perhaps you may have an interest in reading it to. Men Against Fire: How Many Soldiers Actually Fired Their Weapons at the Enemy During the Vietnam War SLA Marshall is THE authority on this stuff. It was actually his job to check into things like this and report on it. IRRC,Marshall reported on dead GI's and Marines being found on battlefields in Korea where their positions had been overran,and their rifles were unfired. Marshall published this,which did NOT make him popular with a lot of political creatures in and out of uniform. And I don't see the results from the Korean war being any different than the results from any other war. People are people,and are not about to do something against their nature. Just about ever piece of combat film footage you see from the VN war to the wars of today in the various Shitstainistans shows most soldiers firing wildly,and some even ducking behind things and holding their weapons up over their heads and firing blindly. There are very few that take deliberate aim and fire individual shots. This is one reason why I thought it was in some ways safer to be in in a airborne unit or SF than the regular army. People that volunteer for the "out on the edge" combat units generally ain't shy about firing people up. To repeat,SLA Marshall is the Gold Standard on the conduct of individual soldiers in battle. BTW,it was Marshall's reporting on (and I WILL get these numbers wrong) that out of 10 riflemen in battle,on average 2 will take deliberate aim at and shoot to kill an enemy soldier,2 or 3 would refuse to shoot at all,and the rest would shoot in the general direction of the enemy without taking aim. His reporting was responsible for the idea to modernize the US Military by issuing each soldier a fully-automatic rifle,believing the "spray and pray" method would increase the hits of the 4 or 5 that would just point their weapons in the general direction of the enemy,close their eyes,and fire. Prior to the introduction of the AR-15 to the US military,US military doctrine was to have ONE fully automatic weapon per infantry squad,and for the rest of the squad members to be issued semi-automatic weapons. In WW-1,WW-2,and the Korean War,that automatic rifle was the sweetheart known as the BAR. After the Korean War and up through the early days of the VN War (66 or 67) that was still doctrine with conventional infantry units. In those days the standard issue battle rifle was an M-14,with one in each squad having the fire control selector switch added to make it an automatic rifle if automatic fire was required. It was OK,but it was no BAR! The only two individual weapons I have ever heard senior NCO's who had been in firefights speak of with love in their eyes and voices were the BAR and the 1911A1 45ACP pistol. Never heard anybody say they loved their M-14 or M16. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Once again, Parsons defends the abject cowardice of his badged 'heroes". No matter what facts are presented to him - he will continue to genuflect and submissively worship the police, no matter how cowardly they are. As long as they fullfil their prime directive to "make it home safely at the end of their shift" then they have done their jobs. A good start would be for you to just shut the fuck up... Parsons is angry my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup at a deli. I will take the high ground and decline to respond to you with the same level of vitriol. You have a nice day now. What you are saying is that you have nothing to contradict or disprove anything I have posted since you completely fail to offer a counter argument or countervailing proof. I understand. Thank you, I always do. And I will continue to make your days miserable by presenting a barrage of rebuttal facts as long as you continue to present yellow journalism articles for the purpose of advancing your cop-hating agenda.
Thank you.
You're welcome. Hope it helped. General Julian Hatcher is the man whose book (Hatchers Notebook) it is you want to read if you are curious about FACTS related to ballistics and firearms in general. He spent decades as the Chief of the US Army Ordinance Board,and he was more of a scientist than he was a soldier. Hatcher's Notebook in in MY opinion THE most informative book about ammunition,firearms,and their uses and limitations that has ever been written. I bought my copy back in the mid-70's and still consider it to be the most informative book I have ever bought. Want to find out the truth about the lethality of a bullet fired up into the air and then falls back to Earth? Hatcher investigated this in the 20's or 30's,and he did it using scientific methods under tightly controlled conditions. Because of his research "volley fire" became a thing of the past in most militaries . I used to own a British SMLE Type 1 .303 British rifle that was issued with a brass rear site on the buttstock,and I THINK (CRS syndrome) a brass front sight out near the muzzle that could be flipped up for "volley fire". Think "shooting a basketball from mid-court" and you will understand it was "military speak" for "lobbing them in". In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Yea, it really did help. I respect your opinion. The article makes sense to me now that I know he is a respected authority.
#2. To: Tooconservative (#1)
#3. To: Deckard (#0)
#4. To: misterwhite (#2)
How many were shot during the four minutes the school resource officer cowered outside?
#5. To: sneakypete (#3)
" They were paying their respects to their God,"Officer Safety". NOBODY is more important than "Officer Safety". It's Dogma # 1.
#6. To: Tooconservative (#4)
Yet it seems his deputies are still protecting the home of the SRO
#7. To: Deckard (#0)
“Everything I was trained on mass casualty events says they did the wrong thing,” said the first responder, who spoke with WSVN Miami News 7 reporter Brian Entin on the condition of anonymity...
#8. To: misterwhite (#6)
Total irony if those deputies refused to stop a shooter from attacking Peterson.
#9. To: Tooconservative (#4)
The Broward sheriff is very silent about that. Yet it seems his deputies are still protecting the home of the SRO from reporters. Apparently they're blocking the street off. That seems suspicious, considering no cop lives there.
#10. To: Deckard, Stoner (#0)
(Edited)
As more details continue to emerge about this tragic incident, the ones who are seemingly most responsible for the death toll, other than the shooter, seem to be the ones who claim to keep people safe. It appears in this instance, however, that they did the exact opposite.
#11. To: Liberator, Deckard, Stoner, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#10)
(Edited)
Have The Bad Guys and Deep State really taken over ALL the reins of Justice in this country?
#12. To: Deckard (#0)
(Edited)
Happened aT colombine
Walk ouT wiTh Their hands up
boris
#13. To: Stoner (#5)
Pete, I think you have served in combat. Can you imagine if you had guys like that in your squad ??
#14. To: hondo68 (#11)
Yes, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump. We're doomed unless we break out of the D&R party lock-box.
#15. To: Deckard (#0)
In the two weeks since the tragic shooting occurred in Parkland, Florida, we have learned that cops cowered outside instead of helping,
We have only very recently learned that upon arriving on scene, Captain Jan Jordan, commander of BSO’s Parkland district, gave the order to to “stage” and set up a “perimeter” outside -- instead of immediately ordering or allowing officers to rush in to neutralize the suspect, Nikolas Cruz. According to multiple reports and police information, Nikolas Cruz entered Building 12 on the campus of Marjory Stoneman around 2:21 p.m. and began firing. Law enforcement tells Fox News the shooting lasted about seven and a half minutes.
#16. To: Gatlin (#15)
We have only very recently learned that upon arriving on scene, Captain Jan Jordan, commander of BSO’s Parkland district, gave the order to to “stage” and set up a “perimeter” outside -- instead of immediately ordering or allowing officers to rush in to neutralize the suspect, Nikolas Cruz.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#17. To: Deckard (#16)
Broward Sheriff Scott Israel has said BSO training and nationwide active-shooter procedure call for armed law enforcement officers to confront shooters immediately rather than secure a scene.
If you mean by stating “yep” that those officers arriving on the scene should have confronted the shooter immediately….then please intelligently explain to everyone how LEO can immediately confront the shooter when they did not know where the shooter was. The logs indicate that at the same time these commands were given, law enforcement still had not located the active shooter. 1a
#18. To: Gatlin (#17)
...how LEO can immediately confront the shooter when they did not know where the shooter was.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#19. To: Deckard (#18)
...how LEO can immediately confront the shooter when they did not know where the shooter was.
Oh, you don’t know where he was, but you do know where he wasn’t. Hmmm. And how do you know this. Let’s see now. Oh, “after the fact” you might have read something somewhere to suggest that. Eh?
#20. To: Gatlin (#19)
(Edited)
...how LEOs can immediately confront the shooter when they did not know where the shooter was.”
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#21. To: Deckard (#18)
The logs indicate that at the same time these commands were given, law enforcement still had not located the active shooter.
What “sounds about right?” - the brave "heroes" were ordered to wait outside?
Since the LEOs did no know if the shooter was inside the very large school building, over at the football field, or even elsewhere….the LEOs were ordered to “stage.”
#22. To: Deckard (#20)
...how LEOs can immediately confront the shooter when they did not know where the shooter was.”
What does “protocol” state for them to do, if they don’t know where the shooter is? Tell us, “Oh Worthy Expert.” ...how LEOs can immediately confront the shooter when they did not know where the shooter was.”
So they start a room to room search only to find out while they were doing that, the shooter was actually over at the football as reported. ...how LEOs can immediately confront the shooter when they did not know where the shooter was.”
It has been reported the sound of gunfire appeared to be coming from outside the building as well as inside. ...how LEOs can immediately confront the shooter when they did not know where the shooter was.”
The bleeding students only shows where he has been, not where he is or will be. … would be a good start
A good start would be for you to just shut the fuck up with all your wild hypothesis making exaggerated suppositions or amateurish proposed explanation….all made on the basis of limited information. Your repetitive questions which have already been answered ...
You have answered nothing….all you have done is to again make an ass of yourself.
#23. To: Deckard (#22)
“I could’ve saved lives,” said the first responder.
And you could have gotten your ass killed while endangering others. … we are learning that not only did the cops cower in fear instead of saving lives, but they told first responders not to help.
We are NOT learning anything….we are being told by Matt Agorist what to think and what to conclude. Mike Moser, the Division Chief of Fire Administration for Coral Springs-Parkland Fire Department, which was on scene that day, released a statement in response to the growing requests from reporters about the Rescue Task Force mode — which would have paired up paramedics with law enforcement to enter the building.
I repeat: RTF can be employed only when law enforcement can clear an area for EMS.
#24. To: Deckard (#23)
Look at how much time and print space Matt Agorst gave to an unnamed first responder on the condition of anonymity. “Everything I was trained on mass casualty events says they did the wrong thing,” said the first responder, who spoke with WSVN Miami News 7 reporter Brian Entin on the condition of anonymity. Mike Moser, the Division Chief of Fire Administration for Coral Springs-Parkland Fire Department, which was on scene that day, released a statement in response to the growing requests from reporters about the Rescue Task Force mode — which would have paired up paramedics with law enforcement to enter the building.
#25. To: sneakypete (#13)
#26. To: Gatlin (#25)
(Edited)
#27. To: Gatlin (#22)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#28. To: Deckard (#27)
(Edited)
I will take the high ground and decline to respond to you with the same level of vitriol.
You have a nice day now.
#29. To: sneakypete (#26)
#30. To: Gatlin (#29)
Thank you.
#31. To: sneakypete (#30)
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