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Title: 'Take The Guns First' - Trump's War On The Second Amendment
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The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity
URL Source: http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arc ... s-war-on-the-second-amendment/
Published: Mar 2, 2018
Author: Daniel McAdams
Post Date: 2018-03-02 01:14:15 by Hondo68
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Keywords: Trump, Pence, Democrats, Republicans, more restrictions, on our liberties
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Comments: 19
President Trump shocked his base of supporters yesterday when he recommended that police grab guns of those they suspect shouldn't have them before any due process takes place. He is also appearing to cave in to demands primarily from Democrats that more restrictions on gun ownership be implemented. While the shooting in Florida was a tragedy, as we point out in today's Liberty Report a recent university study has shown that school shootings are significantly down over the past 20 years. It is a largely manufactured crisis in search of more restrictions on our liberties: Poster Comment: There's no way that that NYC homo reconquista Trump is taking our guns! 
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)
Molon labia.
"From my cold dead hands"
LOL! In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Hondo,you are going to have to weep in your closet. Trump is already saying no more gun control. I know this breaks your heart,but you will probably survive if you don't go all hari-kari over it. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I know this breaks your heart,but you will probably survive if you don't go all hari- kari over it. All he and his twin brother, Deckard, live for is a strong desire to find misery and spread it. You are of course correct, saying that Trump is against gun control.
If you so stupid as to believe he will try, then you should buy Truckloads of Sandbags and fortify your home. God’s Speed …
It must be true because the GOP/NRAILA, and Fox News say the same thing. /s
Way to go, Pebbles. You run a classy web site.
You don't understand The Donald's 4D chess strategy, just turn your guns over to Trump & Feinstein and you're winning! You are an idiot to worry excessively about something that is unlikely to ever happen. There is no need to feel tense and anxious all day long for no real reason. If uncontrolled, then your worry and fear can soon become so constant that it will interfere with your ability to function, relax and think clearly.
feel tense and anxious all day long for no real reason You need a sermon from PastorDowell. That generalization is pure BS-propaganda, Hondo. Don't fall for the dishonest presentation of this issue. The Ron Paul Institute IS wrong on some issues -- this is one of the more egregious issues. You need to consider the context of Trump's statement... ...that is of course and UNLESS you believe kids/people who've been reported for threats 39 times SHOULDN'T have their guns removed. OR, those who've murdered in cold blood someone with an illegal piece (this happens EVERY DAY several times in Baltimore/Chicago with NO objection from the Left-Dems.) Look -- there are people with guns who've REPEATEDLY threatened other individuals. ON RECORD. Their pieces must be confiscated and perps jailed. I'm with Trump on this. The alternative IS an insane Gun Grab for ALL law-abiding gun-owners. I'M not going to be a political casualty of some Leftist-Dem propaganda and charade.
Yet you keep on returning to take your usual cheap-shot, then leave. Put some ice on it then go split a ham sandwich with War. And at least Stone HAS a site. Hondo is a big boy and knows this is what it is, and doesn't complain.
Watched up to :30...Then I knew the rest of what this dude was about to claim was going to be absolute, Prime BS. "If you knew the history of Donald Trump and how he has always been against guns..." BULLSH*T. The opinions and positions of Donald Trump -- like ALL of us -- evolves and has changed. It's called, "Wisdom." Moreover, if this self-anointed "wise-man" truly finds Trump to be no different than any typical "Politician", he is...a Liar. A liar and poseur hiding behind his fake giant "Man of God" placard/prop.
Illegal piece? I don't get it, why does it matter how someone's murdered? Being run over by a truck is no better to me, whether it was stolen or not. There's no such a thing as an illegal piece the closest to that is stolen, only illegal actions like murder. Being jailed for murder is good enough for me. Fry em after a trial! I'm guessing that there's about a 99% objection rate to murder, whether D&R, Independent, or whatever. I know this breaks your heart,but you will probably survive if you don't go all hari-kari over it. Thanks for correcting the usual mis-direction, lies, and fake narrative that was disseminated by the usual news outlet propagandists and haters of Trump. The Left PURPOSELY mis-interpreted then purposely mis-reported the President's original context and intent. With 0bama, they did the exact opposite by COVERING FOR and even correcting that POS's REAL context and intent. EXHIBIT A: Here 0bama reveals the truth on his "Muslim faith" and George Stephanopoulos IMMEDIATELY covers it up to NO fanfare from the MSM: Back to Trump -- he's going to have to learn to modify his urge to speak out so spontaneously and allow the facts the play out. He was rushed to speak out on the slaughter -- maybe from his daughters or other idiotic "advisers". The Leftist MSM is going to twist his words and intent EVERY TIME.
Yeah, it actually DOES matter how someone is murdered. It demonstrates examples of a Democrat gummint, Dem School System, a Dem LE and Deep State that don't actually want to current enforce gun laws OR ANY laws. You're omitting a bunch of factors. Premeditation and INTENT. People don't normally murder others with LEGAL pieces. Precisely because the perps can be tracked, and the murders likely premeditated. People who use LEGAL, registered pieces are likely using them IN SELF-DEFENSE. That said, if legal pieces are being bought by criminals like the Parkland Op, those entrusted by the SYSTEM to enforce safeguards already in place are NO doing so. They are NOT enforcing laws and protocols that are already on the books either. That makes THEM accomplices to murder, guilty of obstructing justice, and guilty of conspiracy to murder. Did you know that the Parkland tool had been reported 39 for threats?? The school and Sheriff's office dismissed ALL charges. He went online, pulicly announced his intention to murder. Did the Feebs step in? NO. Dude should have been locked up long ago. Tell me -- why was he allowed to retain his guns? Why was he allowed anywhere NEAR the school?? You're not taking the real factors, the factors that really matter into consideration: PURPOSEFUL NEGLIGENCE. AIDING AND ABETTING. A SCHOOL and LE that LET. THIS. HAPPEN. Ditto whether Newtown, San Bernadino, Vegas, or Parkland. There's no such a thing as an illegal piece, only illegal actions like murder. My reference to "illegal pieces" was to further underscore the Dem-Media purposeful negligence in ignoring the source of the majority of gun-related murders in the USA. (Btw, your "truck" analogy is a strawman, irrelevant to the issue. Though unlicensed Illegals ARE committing vehicular homicide by the hundreds if not thousands. UN-reported, and with virtual impunity. "Kate's Law" (murder-by-Illegal-with-illegal-gun) failed enactment in Congress. WHY IS THAT?) CONCLUSION: Most of these mass murders or daily murders in places like Chicago are committed as a result of Democrat-Liberal CORRUPTION, POLICIES AND AGENDA. Maybe you should focus on the real perps and "anti-gun" proponents behind the curtain (HINT: IT AIN'T TRUMP).
#2. To: hondo68 (#0)
(Edited)
Poster Comment:
Tbrere's no way that that NYC homo
reconquista Trump is taking our guns! 
#3. To: Tooconservative (#1)
Molon labia.
#4. To: hondo68 (#0)
#5. To: sneakypete (#4)
Hondo,you are going to have to weep in your closet. Trump is already saying no more gun control.
He will never believe anything you say. NRA Executive Director Chris Cox tweeted: “I had a great meeting tonight with [Trump] and [Pence]. We all want safe schools, mental health reform and to keep guns away from dangerous people. POTUS & VPOTUS support the Second Amendment, support strong due process and don’t want gun control.”
#6. To: hondo68 (#0)
Poster Comment:
There's no way that that NYC homo reconquista Trump is taking our guns!
#7. To: sneakypete, lies lies lies, NRA GOP Donnell, *Bang List* (#4)
(Edited)
Trump is already saying no more gun control.
#8. To: hondo68 (#7)
#9. To: A K A Stone (#8)
#10. To: Fred Mertz, Gatlin (#9)
#11. To: hondo68 (#10)
There are approximately 12.5 million illegal aliens in this country. Since the government can’t round up and collect them, how can you possibly be fearful that government could ever round up and collect the estimated 300 million guns in this country? 
#12. To: Gatlin (#11)
#13. To: A K A Stone (#8)
#14. To: hondo68 (#0)
(Edited)
President Trump shocked his base of supporters yesterday when he recommended that police grab guns of those they suspect shouldn't have them before any due process takes place.
#15. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone (#9)
Way to go, Pebbles. You run a classy web site.
#16. To: hondo68 (#13)
#17. To: Liberator (#14)
(Edited)
those who've murdered in cold blood someone with an illegal piece (this happens EVERY DAY several times in Baltimore/Chicago with NO objection
#18. To: sneakypete, hondo68 (#4)
Hondo,you are going to have to weep in your closet. Trump is already saying no more gun control.
#19. To: hondo68 (#17)
Illegal piece? I don't get it, why does it matter how someone's murdered?
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