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Title: All God's Creatures?
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Chick Publications
URL Source: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1099/1099_01.asp
Published: Feb 26, 2018
Author: Jack Chick
Post Date: 2018-02-26 14:53:20 by redleghunter
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#17. To: redleghunter (#0)
Mr.Chick can stick his kindergartin cartoons up his ass. I went to Sunday school briefly in my youth. It was the most repulsive and morbid system of guilt inducing mmythological propganda imaginable. I was beat over the head constantly how Jesus died for my sins and that I should feel guilty about it. I wouldn't even be born yet for close to 2,000 thousand years. Yet I was somehow guilty and owed him rependence for the rest of me life or would go to hell according to the crap I was being fed. According to my smiling indoctrinators, there was no escape for me. About three doses of that, and I was through with it. It was an attempt to cripple me and leave me beating myself senseless with a neurotic whip. I got the hell out.
He'll have to do it in Heaven now. Mr. Chick has gone to his Eternal Home. I went to Sunday school briefly in my youth. It was the most repulsive and morbid system of guilt inducing mmythological propganda imaginable. I was beat over the head constantly how Jesus died for my sins and that I should feel guilty about it. I wouldn't even be born yet for close to 2,000 thousand years. Yet I was somehow guilty... Interesting perspective. I felt pretty much the same way; I wondered why *I* was being indicted for a "sin" *I* hadn't committed... ....Until something clicked, the light-bulb went off, and I fully understood the context. I believe I was about age 21. As to "mythical," the word is defined either as: 1) "Allegorical" The Bible has been proven to cite actual and factual historical people, places, events, AND date accurately -- WITH corroborative evidence and eyewitnesses. IF one dismisses the Bible as a source of "history," you may as well dismiss most or ALL sources of "history" for the last 2000 or more years. Oddly, one could make the case that there is MORE corroborative, true Biblical evidence of events presented and preserved...than by our contemporary Media (which indeed report lies and "myth.")
Interesting perspective. I felt pretty much the same way; I wondered why *I* was being indicted for a "sin" *I* hadn't committed... ....Until something clicked, the light-bulb went off, and I fully understood the context. I believe I was about age 21.
How can one be "worn down" by The Truth? You know Robert -- it's often taken many a Believer several years to sort through obstructions, barriers, half-truths, and propaganda to finally reveal The Truth. Our biggest obstruction to truths are often our own obstinate ego. It's similar to a young person sorting out whether it's the Dems or Republicans who actually represent freedom, America's best interests, or the US Constitution. Many people have discovered late in life that they'd been deceived by the Democrat Party and Leftist Media -- especially in recent years. Back to our discussion -- it's been the Deniers and Detractors of historically proven corroborated scriptural facts and testimony who have been "worn down"...by a steady torrent of lies and ignorance; The victims, their faith and logic held captive and removed via "Stockholm Syndrome" re-programming. This technique of gaslighting Bible truths, of actual history and of people with un-developed faith is very similar to that used by Democrats/Marxists on HS or college-age kids. The Leftist Media brainwashes them or the uninitiated in much the same manner. We both know those agenda-driven institutions frame, manipulate, and falsify the data in order to take full advantage of their prey -- a Captive Audience. Many never recover. Many of the weak-minded and indifferent to the truth are never able to shake their indoctrination, whether political or in the realm of faith. Only the strong, the informed, or those committed to The Truth break free. Better late than never.
Really? So explain how Jesus was born. Hint: according to Christian doctrine, he was not born of the flesh like all others. While you are at it ... he died in the flesh, crucified on a cross. Explain why God required this unnatural occurrence to convince you to abandon reason of and about the world around yourself.
It was and remains a SUPER "natural" occurrence. Just like Our Creator. And the miracle of our very existence since Genesis 1:1. Do you not actually know exactly why God-in-the Flesh was required to come?
Since my body and mind are tied to "only to this Physical World" I must say, "YES." But where is there any supportive objective evidence of the questions I placed in my earlier post? It is all dogma, superstition, gossip and hearsay.
Multiple witnesses; Far more than of most "history." NONE of Mark, Matthew, Luke or John...OR Paul has ever been proven to be untrue or historically un-factual. How do you explain this??
Well, where are the witnesses in Jewish, Syrian, Roman or Egyptian literature even in a footnote?
Are multiple ethnic "witnesses" required in our ancient "history" books in order to validate their testimony? You asked for corroboration and testimony, I gave it to you.
That's a good idea otherwise the idea of some small cliche of friends describing events or writing their memories is not considered objective. That's why within Christian dogma the evidence is only found by revelation; it is not substantiated by objective affirmation.
That's a good idea otherwise the idea of some small cliche of friends describing events or writing their memories is not considered objective. So you're saying that a bunch of people who hear the SAME words and see the SAME event and person should be dismissed as a matter of prejudicial bias and presumably, fudged testimony? Sure. That may be the case in some counts of course. It depends on the motive. The quality of witness. Inconsistencies in corroboration. Quality and reputation of the witness. But given the quality, consistency, and corroboration of eyewitnesses, doesn't your cynicism fly in the face of the quality of people they were there? NONE of the places, people, events, or dates has ever been found to have been untrue. What OTHER historical source of any person or place or event has THIS much corroboration?? That'd be the greatest parlor trick in history! Did you realize that all the Apostles didn't see and hear exactly the same things and events? But they did all corroborate the Divinity of Jesus Christ. Matthew, Mark and Luke happen to take the more common view of things -- with slight variations, as if say you, I, and Red hung out constantly for a few years. That's normal, wouldn't you say? The Gospel of John is a bit different than the others. He's the Apostle who really stresses the reason that Jesus Christ came in the first place (Ex: 3:16). John is also the Apostle who let's us know that Thomas doubted Jesus' return and Resurrection (See? Even though one of these Apostles witnessed just about ALL these miracles, ONE still couldn't believe Jesus could/would return.) So from the Gospel, we know they also testified about what others said or did. There is one common thread from ALL FOUR Gospels by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John -- each gives detailed testimony to Jesus Christ's death, burial, and Resurrection. AS WELL as testifying to miracles. In short, all were witness to and testified to supernatural events. That's why within Christian dogma the evidence is only found by revelation; it is not substantiated by objective affirmation. You've swerved off the tangent. The "evidence" and confirmation of actual events, real history, and actual conversations is substantiated to the nines. By multiple corroborating personal testimony. Common sense: IF any Apostles were lying about any of their testimony, wouldn't the Powers-That-Be at the time -- the Jewish Pharisees and Romans -- have easily exposed it and pronounced their findings loudly and widely? Think about it. There were just way too many witnesses. Both during Jesus' life and during His Resurrection. Q: WHY would the the Apostles -- including Paul -- memorize and go through the extreme trouble of having their experiences with Jesus Christ written down for the ages? "Follow the money"?? (OH WAIT -- They were POOR.) Personal glory? (OH WAIT -- they were persecuted and hounded by both the Romans and agents of the Jewish Pharisees. All suffered horrible deaths.) Did you know according to Mark's testimony, members of Jesus own family thought he was crazy? They even gave us that kind of info. Did you know the Apostle Paul didn't "hang out" with Jesus? Or with Matthew and others? No, the Apostles and bunch of disciples and countless others were witness to and happened to document the most important event in human history. Some accounts are more or less the same; others singular or different. Again, normal stuff, again, even if you Red and I had hung out together for a few years. If the Apostles were ever collectively called into court to give testimony, nothing would have changed. Why should it be expected to deny or discount this degree of detailed corroboration from 2000 years ago? The truth is the truth.
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#30. To: rlk, redleghunter (#17)
Mr.Chick can stick his kindergartin cartoons up his ass.
2) "False or fictitious" an "over-exaggeration"
3) "Traditional historical story which explaining a natural or social phenomenon."
#39. To: Liberator (#30)
(Edited)
I was beat over the head constantly how Jesus died for my sins and that I should feel guilty about it. I wouldn't even be born yet for close to 2,000 thousand years. Yet I was somehow guilty...
You should have stayed with it instead of letting the superstition obsessed bastards wear you down.
#42. To: rlk (#39)
(Edited)
You should have stayed with it instead of letting the superstition obsessed bastards wear you down.
#43. To: Liberator (#42)
Many of the weak-minded and indifferent to the truth are never able to shake their indoctrination, whether political or in the realm of faith.
Only the strong, the informed, or those committed to The Truth break free. Better late than never.
Yeah, kinda like a Chick cartoon.
#45. To: buckeroo (#43)
(Edited)
Explain why God required this unnatural occurrence...
#46. To: Liberator (#45)
OR...do you believe only in this Physical World?
#50. To: buckeroo (#46)
It is all dogma, superstition, gossip and hearsay.
#54. To: Liberator (#50)
Multiple witnesses; Far more than of most "history."
#72. To: buckeroo (#54)
Well, where are the witnesses in Jewish, Syrian, Roman or Egyptian literature even in a footnote?
#74. To: Liberator (#72)
Are multiple ethnic "witnesses" required in our ancient "history" books in order to validate their testimony?
#79. To: buckeroo (#74)
Are multiple ethnic "witnesses" required in our ancient "history" books in order to validate their testimony?
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