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Title: Condoleezza Rice says US needs to consider Second Amendment's place in 'modern world'
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Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201 ... nts-place-in-modern-world.html
Published: Feb 25, 2018
Author: Amy Lieu
Post Date: 2018-02-25 07:27:02 by IbJensen
Keywords: None
Views: 10946
Comments: 144
This month's massacre in Parkland, Fla., seems like a key moment in the nation's ongoing debate about the Second Amendment, former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said during a radio interview Friday. “I think it is time to have a conversation about what the right to bear arms means in the modern world,” Rice told radio host Hugh Hewitt on Friday. “I don’t understand why civilians need to have access to military weapons. We wouldn’t say you can go out and buy a tank.” More specifically, Rice said weapons like the AR-15 rifle that authorities say shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz, 19, used to kill 17 students and teachers Feb. 14, shouldn't be available to civilians, the Washington Times reported. NIKOLAS CRUZ CHARGED IN FLORIDA SCHOOL SHOOTING But Rice, who served under President George W. Bush, made clear that she remains a believer in the Second Amendment. “We can’t throw away the Second Amendment and keep the First,” she said, adding that she considers the first two amendments to the Constitution to be “indivisible.” “We can’t throw away the Second Amendment and keep the First.” - Condoleezza Rice, former U.S. secretary of state Hewitt then asked if Rice -- being an educator herself as a political science professor at Stanford University -- supports the idea of teachers carrying guns as a deterrent to potential campus shootings. Rice said she doesn’t think that is “going to be the answer,” the Washington Times reported. “I don’t really like the idea, frankly, of a gun in my classroom,” she said. Rather, she supports looking to law enforcement and guards as ways for protection. Rice, 63, was exposed to senseless violence at an early age, having grown up in Birmingham, Ala., where the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in 1963 resulted in the deaths of four young girls. She has written and spoken frequently about the impression the horrific event made on her. She told Hewitt that despite her reservations about weapons in the classroom, the proposal merited a serious discussion. (Watch video at link) Poster Comment: “Modern world” Same modern world pissing away their freedom left and right? No thanks Bush Globalist Harpy. The Second Amendment is to provide protection against a hungry, immense, evil and bankrupt government!
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#10. To: IbJensen (#0)
Au contraire, mon ami. (A bit of French lingo there to demonstrate my fondness for little froggies.) The original intent of the second amendment was to offer citizens the opportunity to avoid the type of tyrannical rule that they came to America to escape. This modern government has become so huge and onerous it's fast becoming a threat to all citizens, We hope that a president Trump can stick a sword in the dirigible and deflate it. Political and social unrest can cause governmental response and unforeseen consequences that impugn the rights of individuals. So, your thinking aobut the purpose and use of the Second Amendment is somewhat skewed. To protect themselves from a government that, however inadvertently, no longer protects them or, even worse, attempts to persecute them, citizens must be able to maintain their own arms.
Au contraire, mon ami. (A bit of French lingo there to demonstrate my fondness for little froggies.) The Supreme Court of the United States is the highest tribunal in this great Nation for all cases and controversies that arise about the Constitution. The Supreme Court of the United States is the final arbiter of the Constitution and thereby functions as guardian and interpreter of the Constitution. You get to have an opinion, but that is all you get to have….and this is not an opinion. It’s a stated fact, a fact well worth you understanding and remembering. Thanks for your post and for taking time to state your personal opinion.
You are a snide one, Gatlin! (That's snide....not wise!)
Yes, I know…that has been said before and I take no offense in hearing it again. I fully realize that I have the innate capacity for saying things in an unkind and indirect way when criticizing somebody and pointing out the error of their way or exposing their unpleasant traits. But don’t be frighten off by that….put on your “big boy” facade and try to dispute my facts when you can.
Unpleasant? I daresay it is you who are exceedingly unpleasant. I will in the future ignore any response you make to my posted articles or comments considering the loutish source.
Thank you. I will continue to post for everyone else to see. You just sit there and silently take your severe whippings.
#105. To: Gatlin (#98)
You just sit there and silently take your severe whippings. A sadist as well.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest The Second Amendment is to provide protection against....government!
The notion that the Second Amendment was understood to protect a right to take up arms against the government is absurd. Indeed, the Constitution itself defines such an act as treason.
#68. To: Gatlin (#10)
the notion that the Second Amendment was understood to protect a right to take up arms against the government is absurd.
#74. To: IbJensen (#68)
the notion that the Second Amendment was understood to protect a right to take up arms against the government is absurd.
Bravo…wonderful job with that “French lingo.” You may have found something you do well. Stick with it. This modern government has become so huge and onerous it's fast becoming a threat to all citizens, We hope that a president Trump can stick a sword in the dirigible and deflate it.
That is very true and while you cannot speak for all Americans when you presumptively used “we”….you can however include me in that hope. The original intent of the second amendment was to offer citizens the opportunity to avoid the type of tyrannical rule that they came to America to escape.
Sorry, but you do not get to decide and dictate what the original intent of the Second Amendment is. Yours is but one of the seemingly endless interpretations of the 27 words in the Second Amendment. You do however have the right to hold and express your pwn opinion. In doing so, it is possible that you have construed your opinion to perfectly match your own personal feelings along with your political desires. Perhaps It would be far wiser to set aside your futile subjective policymaking efforts that has meaning only to you and achieve absolutely no results….then smartly concentrate on electing qualified individuals to represent the American people and replace many of the opinionated and egotistical dumbass bastards now occupying seats in Congress.
#78. To: Gatlin (#74)
You do however have the right to hold and express your pwn opinion.
#86. To: IbJensen (#78)
You are a snide one, Gatlin!
#96. To: Gatlin (#86)
...when criticizing somebody and pointing out the error of their way or exposing their unpleasant traits.
#98. To: IbJensen (#96)
I will in the future ignore any response you make to my posted articles or comments considering the loutish source.
Replies to Comment # 98. I will continue to post for everyone else to see.
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