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Title: Four sheriff’s deputies hid during Florida school shooting
Source: New York Post
URL Source: https://nypost.com/2018/02/23/four- ... uring-florida-school-shooting/
Published: Feb 23, 2018
Author: Ruth Brown
Post Date: 2018-02-23 20:52:35 by Hondo68
Keywords: 3 Broward Co. Sheriffs deputie, hid behind cars, with weapons drawn
Views: 5493
Comments: 66

Four sheriff’s deputies hid during Florida school shooting

Not one but four sheriff’s deputies hid behind cars instead of storming Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School during last week’s school shooting, according to a new report.

Sources from Coral Springs Police Department tell CNN that when officers arrived on the scene, they were shocked to find three Broward County Sheriff’s deputies behind their cars with their weapons drawn.

The school’s armed resource officer, Deputy Scot Peterson was also outside — he resigned Thursday over his failure to act.

The cops entered the building to engage the shooter on their own, and then a new batch of Broward County deputies arrived, and two of those officers — plus an officer from Sunrise, Florida — joined the police inside the building, the sources said.

It’s unclear if the shooter was still inside at the time, CNN reports.

Bad blood has been brewing between the two law enforcement groups ever since the Feb. 14 massacre.

Coral Springs City Manager Mike Goodrum confronted Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel over the incident during a vigil the following day, saying injured kids could have been dying inside the building while the deputies held back, sources tell CNN.

In response, Israel said Coral Springs cops first showed up after confessed gunman Nikolas Cruz had left the school.

The sheriff — in comments to the Miami Herald — seemed to suggest that, even had these three deputies charged into Building 12 of Douglas HS, it would have been too late anyway.

“We know it was approximately four minutes after the shooter departed the school when the first Coral Springs police officers arrived,’’ Israel told the paped. “We’re investigating every aspect of this.”

A day after Goodrum’s confrontation with Israel, Coral Springs Police Chief Tony Pustizzi wrote in an internal memo:

“I understand that another agency has given the impression that it had provided the majority of the rescue efforts, and that the tremendous work of the Coral Springs Police and Fire Departments has not been recognized.”

“Please know that this issue will be addressed, and the truth will come out in time,” he added.

The Coral Springs officers’ experiences will be included in a new report coming out next week, according to the news site.


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Too dangerous in that school, those kids are on their own!

And these heroes all went home safely to their families. /s(1 image)

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#1. To: Deckard, Officer Safety, Gatlin, GrandIsland, copsuckers (#0) (Edited)

“We know it was approximately four minutes after the shooter departed the school when the first Coral Springs police officers arrived,’’ Israel told the pape[r]

Even though the shooter had left, the Broward County Sheriff's Deputies still "feared for their lives" and remained safely behind their cars?

No wonder there was less crime in the Wild West before the Sheriff showed up in town.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-02-23   21:07:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

The school’s armed resource officer, Deputy Scot Peterson was also outside — he resigned Thursday over his failure to act.

Was he caught taking a doughnut break with a kup of koffee while a massacre was on-going? No? Then he was just another do-nothing officer of the law.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-02-23   21:07:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#1) (Edited)

First responding officers are trained not to enter an active gunman type of incident unless there is active shooting going on.

Officers are allowed officer safety minded tactical decisions IF people aren't actively dying. Dumbshit.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-23   21:59:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: GrandIsland, hondo68 (#3)

Well at least the badged "heroes" got to go home safely at the end of the day.

That's the important thing.

First responding officers are trained not to enter an active gunman type of incident unless their is active shooting going on.

Really? If as you say they were merely follwing established protocols - why were the three suspended?

Next time - send some firefighters. Those guys run towards danger in order to save lives. Not cower in fear while kids are massacred.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-23   22:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deckard (#4)

Really? If as you say they were merely follwing established protocols - why were the three suspended?

For PR reasons... to satisfy assholes like you.

However, during an arbitration hearing, they might be exonerated if what they did was consistent with their training.

Douchebag.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-23   22:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deckard (#4)

Next time - send some firefighters. Those guys run towards danger in order to save lives. Not cower in fear while kids are massacred.

As long as we don't send news media personnel, like you made a living at. There's not even one documented instance of a news anchor or reporter that's ever ran into an active gunman incident.

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-23   22:20:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#0)

The sheriff — in comments to the Miami Herald — seemed to suggest that, even had these three deputies charged into Building 12 of Douglas HS, it would have been too late anyway.

It may not have been too late to apply 1st aid,you fool!

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-23   22:23:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GrandIsland (#3)

Officers are allowed officer safety minded tactical decisions IF people aren't actively dying. Dumbshit.

Speaking of dumbshits,how are you supposed to know who's dying and who isn't while you are outside cowering behind your cars?

People could be getting beaten to death,stabbed,choked,or just injured and beeding out.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-23   22:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: GrandIsland, deckard (#6)

As long as we don't send news media personnel, like you made a living at. There's not even one documented instance of a news anchor or reporter that's ever ran into an active gunman incident.

lol

Seems to me you are jealous.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-23   22:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sneakypete (#8)

Speaking of dumbshits,how are you supposed to know who's dying and who isn't while you are outside cowering behind your cars?

First aid is normally tended to after the scene is safe. It's not tactically smart to create more shot up victims, treating victims. The only time it's acceptable to risk creating more victims is when you do so TRYING TO END THE THREAT.

So shut your stinky Peter puffer.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-23   22:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: GrandIsland, Security Tard, sneakypete, Deckard, buckeroo (#10)

Hondo68  posted on  2018-02-23   23:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: hondo68 (#0)

Shame

redleghunter  posted on  2018-02-23   23:43:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: redleghunter (#12)

He could have been rubbing his religious prayer beads together and YOU are suggesting, "shame."

buckeroo  posted on  2018-02-23   23:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#13)

He could have been rubbing his religious prayer beads together and YOU are suggesting, "shame."

You mean he is Muslim?

redleghunter  posted on  2018-02-23   23:58:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: redleghunter (#14)

Not at all. He could have been giving prayers to the Lord based on his Catholic upbringing or other Christian background.

Worthless, of course for the children under attack.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-02-24   0:02:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Broward Sheriff Scott Israel (#0) (Edited)

Gay Sheriff wedding, Broward Sheriff Scott Israel Ramadan, and much more...

Gee, what could go wrong?

Hondo68  posted on  2018-02-24   0:05:56 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeroo (#15)

Don't know what you are drinking but I don't want any.

redleghunter  posted on  2018-02-24   0:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: redleghunter, buckeroo (#14) (Edited)

You mean he is Muslim?

Not so sure about the sheriff, he loves the diversity. See the first YouTube in post #16 above ^^^.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-02-24   0:12:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: redleghunter (#17)

Sure you do. It's called common sense. Some of these "professionals" don't give a damn about anything other than their own lives and well being. They cling onto their prayer beads as opposed to dutiful purpose accepting a job in publick service.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-02-24   0:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: hondo68 (#18)

Good sleuthing

redleghunter  posted on  2018-02-24   0:55:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#0)

“We know it was approximately four minutes after the shooter departed the school when the first Coral Springs police officers arrived,’’ Israel told the paped. “We’re investigating every aspect of this.”

That sheriff is a worthless blowhard grandstanding lib. He hired the 4 Cowardly Deputies who did nothing as kids were shot up. He's running a "timeline" to try to prove he can't be blamed for it.

He should be forced to resign. Better, he should be prosecuted.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-24   1:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: GrandIsland (#10)

It's not tactically smart to create more shot up victims, treating victims.+9-*/

Ahhhh,Tactical Tommy has a "tactical reason" to be a coward. It's not YOUR fault,you are "chust followlink ordurs!"

And you are not alone. I know of several local cops whose motto is "It doesn't matter who dies as long as *I* go home at night!"

Because it's all about "Officer Safety" and not protecting the public,right?

Did you at least have enough self-respect to back up to receive your pay check so you didn't have to look anyone in the eye,"crime fighter"? Or are you so self-centered and arrogant it doesn't embarrass you to have spent a whole career stealing from the public?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-24   6:49:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#22)

Well Pete, it looks like the image of macho, manly bad ass heroes has taken a BIG BLACK EYE !!! Cop PR further down hill !!!

The Badge Lickers should be immensely embarrassed !!!

For my families protection, I think I will keep my firearms

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

Stoner  posted on  2018-02-24   8:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Stoner (#23)

The Badge Lickers should be immensely embarrassed !!!

It's impossible to embarrass them. In order for that to happen,they would have to admit to themselves they were wrong. That just ain't gonna happen. Not now,not ever.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-24   8:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: GrandIsland (#3)

Officers are allowed officer safety minded tactical decisions IF people aren't actively dying.

As opposed to people passively dying? Wounded students could have possibly been saved had the deputies entered sooner.

Having said that, I can empathize with the emotions of, on a few minutes notice during an otherwise routine morning, having to make a decision to enter a building where an active shooter has opened fire. Though it would seem that entering the building against a tide of out flowing students would be, tactically, reasonably safe to do.

The real solution, it seems, should be, and can only be to arm teachers. They are the one's who won't need to make any such decision as the fight will have come to them. Police simply won't be any help when that help is most needed, and where it is needed. Even if cops came fleeing into the scene as fast as they could, it wouldn't be fast enough, of course.

And I suspect teachers would be more willing to risk their lives in such a scenario as they will have personal attachments to the students being fired upon. That's not a slam against cops. That's just normal "human nature". You are more likely to risk your life to save someone you know than someone you don't know.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-02-24   9:26:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#22) (Edited)

Because it's all about "Officer Safety" and not protecting the public,right?

Ah, I see. So while you are sitting home protecting only the cup you soak your dentures in, and the only people that are going to seek out and either kill the shooter or capture him, is the cops, and cops make tactical decisions to get shot up doing something other than ending the shooting threat is "protecting the public"?

Glad you were never an officer.... cause you'd be so brave that you'd drive 120 MPH to respond to a two car accident with INJURIES, and in your quest to be so brave, you'd cause a fatal accident... and that's protecting the public.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-24   9:32:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Pinguinite (#25)

As opposed to people passively dying? Wounded students could have possibly been saved had the deputies entered sooner.

Medical always comes after the scene is made safe enough to treat the injured... or YOU ARE MAKING THE SCENE POTENTIALLY WORSE. It has nothing to do with bravery. It's called common sense. Now, often times officers find ways to tactically reach victims with some kind of movable cover (like their patrol car) and extract the wounded to safety TO BE TREATED.

The talking points you, DickTard and Stinky Pee Pee have been ranting on, is the same slanted bias yella bullshit that libtard MSM has been pushing since the school shooting.

Yes the resource officer failed to act... but it is unknown if responding officers acted outside the scope of their training or improperly.

Normally, officers won't enter without an organized strike team UNLESS THERE IS ACTIVE SHOOTING TAKEN PLACE.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-24   9:41:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: GrandIsland (#27) (Edited)

Medical always comes after the scene is made safe enough to treat the injured...

Kids dying while the badged (and armed) "heroes" wait outside ensuring that they will fulfill their primary mission - to make it home safely at the end of the day.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-24   10:05:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Deckard (#28) (Edited)

Kids dying

Need a tissue?

Your libtard anti gun fear mongering only works for the sheeple. School children and cops (44 shot and killed in 2017) will occasionally die for our freedoms. Suck it up, buttercup.

Maybe you should have got off your computer chair and helped out. lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-24   10:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: GrandIsland (#29)

Need a tissue?

You seem to be the one crying that the poor widdle badged "heroes" are being honestly portrayed as cowards - do they issue vaginas to these guys or do they have their own.

Your libtard anti gun fear mongering only works for the sheeple.

Anti-gun? Please post a link to where I have made any anti-gun statements.

Oh - you can't? Then STFU.

These cops had guns - yet they were more concerned about their own safety.

School children and cops (44 shot and killed in 2017) will occasionally die for our freedoms.

Schoolkids "dying for our freedoms"?

Seems to me the agenda here is just the opposite, or can't you see that?

Maybe you should have got off your computer chair and helped out.

I'm sure that had you been at the scene, you would have cowered behind a car as you soiled your panties.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-24   10:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: hondo68 (#16)

Gay Sheriff wedding, Broward Sheriff Scott Israel Ramadan, and much more...

Gee, what could go wrong?

Just...WOW.

A homo-centric Po-Po Broward County Sheriff and his posse of princesses. Right -- "What COULD go wrong"? EVERYTHING. And it did, didn't it?

I think the problem in Broward has been 'splained pretty well in your photo gallery, Hondo.

Let's put the blame where it belongs; Faggotry, Democrats and their effete Prog "policing" and policies don't mix with actual LE.

As in Frisco, Blue Towns/Cities and much of CA with their dismissing of Illegal Invader criminality, we saw the same in Broward; This punk was reported a gazillion times for threatening the public. UNTIL HE ACTED OUT.

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-24   10:43:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Liberator (#31)

This punk was reported a gazillion times for threatening the public. UNTIL HE ACTED OUT.

I rather go back to the days of one flew over the kookoos nest, and we institutionalize the nuts... but DickTard and the snowflakes will scream unconstitutional meanness.

On a different note, if any responding officer is found to not have acted, or acted outside the scope of their well documented training, they should be charged.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-24   10:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Deckard, GrandIsland, Vicomte13, A K A Stone (#30)

I wish you guys would stop blaming each other as representation of the worst of your respective position.

GI is no more responsible for all idiocy and cowardice of local police policy than is Vic for the Pope and RCC's policy.

We stand them up against the wall for proxy firing squads. But is it right? Just sayin'.

I don't think either of the above referenced posters respectively support Broward Co. Sheriff policy in this case, or the Papal NWO/Communism.

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-24   10:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Deckard (#30)

You seem to be the one crying that the poor widdle badged "heroes"

Hey, if cops die, then they die. If cops do stupid shit that get more kids killed or first responders killed, in the name of "bravery" outside the scope of their training, then they should be charged.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-24   10:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Liberator (#33)

I wish you guys would stop blaming each other as representation of the worst of your respective position.

Spot on.

I'm just as guilty... but methinks you won't ever see DickTard stop blaming me for all he hates, knowing what I've done in the last 24 years

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-24   10:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: GrandIsland, Deckard (#32) (Edited)

I rather go back to the days of one flew over the kookoos nest, and we institutionalize the nuts... but DickTard and the snowflakes will scream unconstitutional meanness.

I agree 100% on that count; THAT is a yuge part of the problem.

Liberal-Dems and GOPe somehow concurred that it'd be "compassionate" to NOT institutionalize the lunatics that now terrorize America. THAT is on THEM (and NO ONE wants to consider the "nut" factor in this; Only the "medication" part or "too many gun" component...)

Well chyeah -- when NUTS get their hands on gun, then guess what??

As to presuming Deckard's position on this, I'd bet he actually agrees with us on this, and with the anti-Snowflake position.

On a different note, if any responding officer is found to not have acted, or acted outside the scope of their well documented training, they should be charged.

Hear ya. I presume that to be your position.

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-24   10:57:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: GrandIsland (#35)

Yup.

I get it; At this forum NO ONE EVER wants to back down. No one ever wants to admit they're wrong. Myself included. That's how it's always been at both LP and LF...

But sometimes we have to just do it

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-24   11:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Liberator (#36)

I rather go back to the days of one flew over the kookoos nest, and we institutionalize the nuts...

As to presuming Deckard's position on this, I'd bet he actually agrees with us on this, and with the anti-Snowflake position.

Actually - I do agree with you on this.

The only problem I can see is who decides what's crazy?

The State can eventually use this much in the same way other tyrannical regimes have in the past, labeling dissenters and criticism of the government as insanity.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-24   11:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Stoner, copsucker Donnell (#23)

The Badge Lickers should be immensely embarrassed !!!

Hondo68  posted on  2018-02-24   12:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: GrandIsland (#32)

I rather go back to the days of one flew over the kookoos nest, and we institutionalize the nuts...

Would they allow internet access? If not this place would be a ghost town.

redleghunter  posted on  2018-02-24   13:23:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Deckard, GrandIsland, redleghunter, rlk (#38)

Actually - I do agree with you on this.

The only problem I can see is who decides what's crazy?

[BECAUSE] The State can eventually use this much in the same way other tyrannical regimes have in the past, labeling dissenters and criticism of the government as insanity.

Yep. Legit question and conundrums.

We can all see where this logic leads...

So again: "WHO DECIDES WHO AND WHAT IS CRAZY?"

It's clear that's officially been tasked to the pro-Left American Psychiatric Association.

So having been anointed America's high priests and arbiters of defining "CRAZY" on behalf of an over-officious State, we already see Law Enforcement deferring to a Judiciary/State, which in turn defers to the "behavioral experts" of a politically left APA when considering "crazy" or criminal guilt or sentencing. And ALL of it deferring to the Ministry of Propaganda, society's un-official Judge and Jury: THE OVER-ZEALOUS, INSANE LEFTIST MAINSTREAM and LEFTIST SOCIAL MEDIA OPINION. (Imagine that Crazy Train?)

We can all see who the weaponized target of "Crazy/Insane" will be: Yup, Conservatives. Gun-owners. Christians. Republicans. Gubmint. And those critical of the APA itself, Democrats, Marxists or Globalists. The "Thought Crimes" list will be totally based on politics (as if it already hasn't.)

Actual ways of determining "CRAZY" are AS WAS in the past. Like considering the frequency and degree of repeated physical threats and displays of public perversity and universal anti-social behavior (although no standard of morality, ethic or normalcy or "anti-social behavior" seems to be on the Left's radar or "universal" anymore in their queer paradigm. We can again thank the "Science" of Psychiatry for this.)

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-24   15:42:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: redleghunter (#40)

Would they allow internet access? If not this place would be a ghost town.

Heh...

*Nurse Ratchet loosening straight jacket and opening window to my top floor "suite"*

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-24   15:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Liberator (#41)

So again: "WHO DECIDES WHO AND WHAT IS CRAZY?"

It's clear that's officially been tasked to the pro-Left American Psychiatric Association.

Crazy:

Trump Supporters
Conservatives
Those who fly a Confederate flag
Whites who refuse to acknowledge their "privilege "
Gun Owners
Home Schoolers
Straight Men and Women
NRA members
Preaching that queerness is a sin

Sane:

Antifa
Black Lives Matter
Militant queers
Mainstream Media lies
Transgender kids
Destroying Historical Monuments and Statues.
Anything the Clintons do
Unfettered immigration
Gun confiscation

Feel free to add more.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-24   16:03:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: redleghunter, Liberator (#42)

Would they allow internet access? If not this place would be a ghost town.

*Nurse Ratchet loosening straight jacket and opening window to my top floor "suite"*

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“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-24   16:06:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Deckard, Liberator (#43)

Nice post.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-02-24   16:15:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Deckard (#38)

The only problem I can see is who decides what's crazy?

In a representative democracy, the majority of the population. If there is a majority that is crazy, those who disagree with them are pronounced crazy.

This is the situation that currently exists in America. We have a predominance of nutcases and mental defectives imposing their decision that those who disagree with them are crazy.

rlk  posted on  2018-02-24   16:31:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: GrandIsland, Fire Island Kookoos Nest, for panty wetting police (#32)

I rather go back to the days of one flew over the kookoos nest, and we institutionalize the nuts...

You'd be the first new patient since you're crazy enough to think that cops should hide safely behind their police cars, while kids are getting shot and bleeding out.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-02-24   17:37:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: GrandIsland (#26)

Ah, I see. So while you are sitting home protecting only the cup you soak your dentures in, and the only people that are going to seek out and either kill the shooter or capture him, is the cops, and cops make tactical decisions to get shot up doing something other than ending the shooting threat is "protecting the public"?

Bet I've been in more gunfights than you,bubba.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-24   18:09:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: GrandIsland (#27)

Medical always comes after the scene is made safe enough to treat the injured... or YOU ARE MAKING THE SCENE POTENTIALLY WORSE.

I would love to see you explain this to a USMC/US Navy Corpsman or an Army Combat Medic.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-24   18:11:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: GrandIsland (#27)

Yes the resource officer failed to act... but it is unknown if responding officers acted outside the scope of their training or improperly.

Once again,falling back on regulations designed to excuse cowardice.

Are you SURE you're not a Dim?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-24   18:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: GrandIsland (#29)

Kids dying

Need a tissue?

I do,for the kids that die because cowardly shitheads with badges hide behind their cars hoping the shooter commits suicide instead of going in and taking him out,because "officer safety is the most important thing|"

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-24   18:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Deckard (#30)

You seem to be the one crying that the poor widdle badged "heroes" are being honestly portrayed as cowards - do they issue vaginas to these guys or do they have their own.

It is NOT fair to compare these cowardly creatures to women. There are many,many women who will run TOWARD the sound of gunfire to try to save innocent lives.

Who knew they would have to leap over cowering cops to get there?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-24   18:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Liberator (#31)

A homo-centric Po-Po Broward County Sheriff and his posse of princesses. Right -- "What COULD go wrong"? EVERYTHING. And it did, didn't it?

I think the problem in Broward has been 'splained pretty well in your photo gallery, Hondo.

Let's put the blame where it belongs; Faggotry, Democrats and their effete Prog "policing" and policies don't mix with actual LE.

Jesus! Do you know NOTHING of history? Ever heard of a bunch of historical wusses called "Spartans"?

Hell,Alexander the Great was bi-sexual,and NOBODY ever accused him of not being willing to fight.

Courage has nothing to do with either gender or sexual orientation. It has to do with heart.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-24   18:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Deckard (#38)

Actually - I do agree with you on this.

The only problem I can see is who decides what's crazy?

Pretty much everybody that sees and speaks to them. Genuine loons are NOT hard to pick out

Sociopaths on the other hand..........

There are some really good clues with sociopaths,though. Lack of emotion about anything other than themselves,for one.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-24   18:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: hondo68 (#16)

Gee, what could go wrong?

Well, at least they're not wearing hot pants!

VxH  posted on  2018-02-24   19:13:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Liberator (#42)

The Bee has a real good one:

Nation That Calls Trump ‘Hitler’ Demands He Take All Guns Away

redleghunter  posted on  2018-02-24   19:24:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: redleghunter (#56)

Bwaahaa!

Nation That Calls Trump ‘Hitler’ Demands He Take All Guns Away

Can't make that up....It's true, isn't it?

A Christian "Onion." Thanks for hooking me up, bro. Gonna be a daily stop from now on in.

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-25   10:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: VxH (#55)

That convo between Nixon and Erlichman is the most honest one seen ever between a President and one of his consiglieres.

I can derive a few points from your quote; Just which one are YOU trying to make?

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-25   10:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: sneakypete (#53) (Edited)

Courage has nothing to do with either gender or sexual orientation. It has to do with heart.

Ok, so Sneakypete is dying on the hill where he insists that there is not only NO world-view difference OR natural degree of courage or heart between MEN and WOMEN, but NONE between NORMAL men who live in America's Heartland, and some Democrat tranny/cupcake who lives in Frisco??

Jesus! Do you know NOTHING of history? Ever heard of a bunch of historical wusses called "Spartans"?

Hell,Alexander the Great was bi-sexual,and NOBODY ever accused him of not being willing to fight.

Leave it to you to pull this insane Perversion = Normal crap out of your pie-hole. (Pun intended.)

You've cited as your example the 1% exception to the rule? REALLY?? Here's a link to actual "History" of Greek homosexuality, and NOT an opinion based on homosexual propaganda and the movie, 'THE 300':

http://www.livius.org/articles/concept/greek-homosexuality/

Btw, you know what other dominant culture was/is vastly homosexual? ISLAM. What's THAT tell you??

Now that that's out of the way, do you refute the following of contemporary man?:

"Let's put the blame where it belongs; Faggotry, Democrats and their effete Prog "policing" and policies don't mix with actual LE."

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-25   11:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Deckard, Buckeroo (#43)

Absolutely.

Well done list.

More??

"CRAZY":

Heterosexuals who claim homosexuals in gubmint or institutions are a perverted, toxic bane to society
Straight people who claim queers are NOT as courageous, as virtuous, as NORMAL heterosexuals of both genders.
Those who believe Law Enforcement -- led by the likes of San Francisco or Broward County Fl PD -- are NOT as efficient, as ballsy, as committed to public safety as PDs in say, Pennsylvania or Texas.

SANE:

0bama
"Communitah Organizers"
Mueller, Comey, etc.
CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo, HuffPo, etc.
Berkeley (the town, its mayor, AND university)
The Dem Agenda
Dubya Bush's policies
Globalism-over-"America First"

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-25   11:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Liberator (#58) (Edited)

Just which one are YOU trying to make?

All of them.

We're THERE, and then some.

VxH  posted on  2018-02-25   15:25:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: VxH (#61)

Yes, I agree -- we are there. But that Nixon convo was irrelevant. Unless you're referencing it in the context of the two noting the queer subversion of style at the time and hatred of women.

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-25   15:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Liberator (#59) (Edited)

Ok, so Sneakypete is dying on the hill where he insists that there is not only NO world-view difference OR natural degree of courage or heart between MEN and WOMEN, but NONE between NORMAL men who live in America's Heartland, and some Democrat tranny/cupcake who lives in Frisco??

Are you a professional fool,or do you just do this for a hobby?

And WHERE did I mention anything about "some Democrat tranny/cupcake who lives in Frisco??"

Is it possible you are so ignorant of reality that you buy into the stereotype that homosexuals all have to chain their legs to furniture to keep from floating away and that women can't be aggressive and war-like? You must have lived a VERY sheltered life.

As for the women,NOBODY is more cold-blooded than women. Piss one off and find out. We have traditionally kept them out of our wars because wars were already too viscous.

I once had my 115 lb ex get behind me and raise up her fists to someone coming up behind me in a bar fight one night. I found out about this later from the two male friends that saw it happen,and just picked the guy up and took him out to the parking lot to explain to him that bad things would happen to him if he hit that woman.

Hell,Alexander the Great was bi-sexual,and NOBODY ever accused him of not being willing to fight.

Leave it to you to pull this insane Perversion = Normal crap out of your pie-hole. (Pun intended.)

What are you trying to say,bubba? Are you claiming that Alexander was like you?

Btw, you know what other dominant culture was/is vastly homosexual? ISLAM. What's THAT tell you??

That your next secret love will be somebody from Shitstainistan?

Now that that's out of the way, do you refute the following of contemporary man? "Let's put the blame where it belongs; Faggotry, Democrats and their effete Prog "policing" and policies don't mix with actual LE."

LOL! Who wrote that,Fire Island?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-25   21:32:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: sneakypete (#53)

Courage has nothing to do with either gender or sexual orientation. It has to do with heart.

True, that.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-02-25   21:59:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Liberator (#62)

But that Nixon convo was irrelevant.

"Fatal Liberality"

What does that mean and what is its relevance in the context of the strategic subversive demoralization of American culture described by Bezmenov?

VxH  posted on  2018-02-25   22:21:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: sneakypete (#24)

" It's impossible to embarrass them. "

True. But I said they should be embarrassed. If they were as smart as they think they are, they would be!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

Stoner  posted on  2018-02-26   15:07:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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