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Title: Four sheriff’s deputies hid during Florida school shooting
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New York Post
URL Source: https://nypost.com/2018/02/23/four- ... uring-florida-school-shooting/
Published: Feb 23, 2018
Author: Ruth Brown
Post Date: 2018-02-23 20:52:35 by Hondo68
Keywords: 3 Broward Co. Sheriffs deputie, hid behind cars, with weapons drawn
Views: 7085
Comments: 66
Not one but four sheriff’s deputies hid behind cars instead of storming Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School during last week’s school shooting, according to a new report. Sources from Coral Springs Police Department tell CNN that when officers arrived on the scene, they were shocked to find three Broward County Sheriff’s deputies behind their cars with their weapons drawn. The school’s armed resource officer, Deputy Scot Peterson was also outside — he resigned Thursday over his failure to act. The cops entered the building to engage the shooter on their own, and then a new batch of Broward County deputies arrived, and two of those officers — plus an officer from Sunrise, Florida — joined the police inside the building, the sources said. It’s unclear if the shooter was still inside at the time, CNN reports. Bad blood has been brewing between the two law enforcement groups ever since the Feb. 14 massacre. Coral Springs City Manager Mike Goodrum confronted Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel over the incident during a vigil the following day, saying injured kids could have been dying inside the building while the deputies held back, sources tell CNN. In response, Israel said Coral Springs cops first showed up after confessed gunman Nikolas Cruz had left the school. The sheriff — in comments to the Miami Herald — seemed to suggest that, even had these three deputies charged into Building 12 of Douglas HS, it would have been too late anyway. “We know it was approximately four minutes after the shooter departed the school when the first Coral Springs police officers arrived,’’ Israel told the paped. “We’re investigating every aspect of this.” A day after Goodrum’s confrontation with Israel, Coral Springs Police Chief Tony Pustizzi wrote in an internal memo: “I understand that another agency has given the impression that it had provided the majority of the rescue efforts, and that the tremendous work of the Coral Springs Police and Fire Departments has not been recognized.” “Please know that this issue will be addressed, and the truth will come out in time,” he added. The Coral Springs officers’ experiences will be included in a new report coming out next week, according to the news site. Poster Comment: Too dangerous in that school, those kids are on their own! And these heroes all went home safely to their families. /s
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#1. To: Deckard, Officer Safety, Gatlin, GrandIsland, copsuckers (#0)
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Even though the shooter had left, the Broward County Sheriff's Deputies still "feared for their lives" and remained safely behind their cars? No wonder there was less crime in the Wild West before the Sheriff showed up in town. Was he caught taking a doughnut break with a kup of koffee while a massacre was on-going? No? Then he was just another do-nothing officer of the law.
First responding officers are trained not to enter an active gunman type of incident unless there is active shooting going on. Officers are allowed officer safety minded tactical decisions IF people aren't actively dying. Dumbshit. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Well at least the badged "heroes" got to go home safely at the end of the day. That's the important thing. First responding officers are trained not to enter an active gunman type of incident unless their is active shooting going on. Really? If as you say they were merely follwing established protocols - why were the three suspended? Next time - send some firefighters. Those guys run towards danger in order to save lives. Not cower in fear while kids are massacred. For PR reasons... to satisfy assholes like you. However, during an arbitration hearing, they might be exonerated if what they did was consistent with their training. Douchebag. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
As long as we don't send news media personnel, like you made a living at. There's not even one documented instance of a news anchor or reporter that's ever ran into an active gunman incident. lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
It may not have been too late to apply 1st aid,you fool! In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Speaking of dumbshits,how are you supposed to know who's dying and who isn't while you are outside cowering behind your cars? People could be getting beaten to death,stabbed,choked,or just injured and beeding out. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
lol Seems to me you are jealous. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
First aid is normally tended to after the scene is safe. It's not tactically smart to create more shot up victims, treating victims. The only time it's acceptable to risk creating more victims is when you do so TRYING TO END THE THREAT. So shut your stinky Peter puffer. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Shame
He could have been rubbing his religious prayer beads together and YOU are suggesting, "shame."
You mean he is Muslim?
Not at all. He could have been giving prayers to the Lord based on his Catholic upbringing or other Christian background. Worthless, of course for the children under attack.
Gay Sheriff wedding, Broward Sheriff Scott Israel Ramadan, and much more... Gee, what could go wrong? Don't know what you are drinking but I don't want any.
Not so sure about the sheriff, he loves the diversity. See the first YouTube in post #16 above ^^^. Sure you do. It's called common sense. Some of these "professionals" don't give a damn about anything other than their own lives and well being. They cling onto their prayer beads as opposed to dutiful purpose accepting a job in publick service.
Good sleuthing
That sheriff is a worthless blowhard grandstanding lib. He hired the 4 Cowardly Deputies who did nothing as kids were shot up. He's running a "timeline" to try to prove he can't be blamed for it. He should be forced to resign. Better, he should be prosecuted.
Ahhhh,Tactical Tommy has a "tactical reason" to be a coward. It's not YOUR fault,you are "chust followlink ordurs!" And you are not alone. I know of several local cops whose motto is "It doesn't matter who dies as long as *I* go home at night!" Because it's all about "Officer Safety" and not protecting the public,right? Did you at least have enough self-respect to back up to receive your pay check so you didn't have to look anyone in the eye,"crime fighter"? Or are you so self-centered and arrogant it doesn't embarrass you to have spent a whole career stealing from the public? In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Well Pete, it looks like the image of macho, manly bad ass heroes has taken a BIG BLACK EYE !!! Cop PR further down hill !!! The Badge Lickers should be immensely embarrassed !!! For my families protection, I think I will keep my firearms Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)
It's impossible to embarrass them. In order for that to happen,they would have to admit to themselves they were wrong. That just ain't gonna happen. Not now,not ever. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
As opposed to people passively dying? Wounded students could have possibly been saved had the deputies entered sooner. Having said that, I can empathize with the emotions of, on a few minutes notice during an otherwise routine morning, having to make a decision to enter a building where an active shooter has opened fire. Though it would seem that entering the building against a tide of out flowing students would be, tactically, reasonably safe to do. The real solution, it seems, should be, and can only be to arm teachers. They are the one's who won't need to make any such decision as the fight will have come to them. Police simply won't be any help when that help is most needed, and where it is needed. Even if cops came fleeing into the scene as fast as they could, it wouldn't be fast enough, of course. And I suspect teachers would be more willing to risk their lives in such a scenario as they will have personal attachments to the students being fired upon. That's not a slam against cops. That's just normal "human nature". You are more likely to risk your life to save someone you know than someone you don't know.
Ah, I see. So while you are sitting home protecting only the cup you soak your dentures in, and the only people that are going to seek out and either kill the shooter or capture him, is the cops, and cops make tactical decisions to get shot up doing something other than ending the shooting threat is "protecting the public"? Glad you were never an officer.... cause you'd be so brave that you'd drive 120 MPH to respond to a two car accident with INJURIES, and in your quest to be so brave, you'd cause a fatal accident... and that's protecting the public. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Medical always comes after the scene is made safe enough to treat the injured... or YOU ARE MAKING THE SCENE POTENTIALLY WORSE. It has nothing to do with bravery. It's called common sense. Now, often times officers find ways to tactically reach victims with some kind of movable cover (like their patrol car) and extract the wounded to safety TO BE TREATED. The talking points you, DickTard and Stinky Pee Pee have been ranting on, is the same slanted bias yella bullshit that libtard MSM has been pushing since the school shooting. Yes the resource officer failed to act... but it is unknown if responding officers acted outside the scope of their training or improperly. Normally, officers won't enter without an organized strike team UNLESS THERE IS ACTIVE SHOOTING TAKEN PLACE. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Kids dying while the badged (and armed) "heroes" wait outside ensuring that they will fulfill their primary mission - to make it home safely at the end of the day. Need a tissue? Your libtard anti gun fear mongering only works for the sheeple. School children and cops (44 shot and killed in 2017) will occasionally die for our freedoms. Suck it up, buttercup. Maybe you should have got off your computer chair and helped out. lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
You seem to be the one crying that the poor widdle badged "heroes" are being honestly portrayed as cowards - do they issue vaginas to these guys or do they have their own. Your libtard anti gun fear mongering only works for the sheeple. Anti-gun? Please post a link to where I have made any anti-gun statements. Oh - you can't? Then STFU. These cops had guns - yet they were more concerned about their own safety. School children and cops (44 shot and killed in 2017) will occasionally die for our freedoms. Schoolkids "dying for our freedoms"? Seems to me the agenda here is just the opposite, or can't you see that? Maybe you should have got off your computer chair and helped out. I'm sure that had you been at the scene, you would have cowered behind a car as you soiled your panties. Gee, what could go wrong? Just...WOW. A homo-centric Po-Po Broward County Sheriff and his posse of princesses. Right -- "What COULD go wrong"? EVERYTHING. And it did, didn't it? I think the problem in Broward has been 'splained pretty well in your photo gallery, Hondo. Let's put the blame where it belongs; Faggotry, Democrats and their effete Prog "policing" and policies don't mix with actual LE. As in Frisco, Blue Towns/Cities and much of CA with their dismissing of Illegal Invader criminality, we saw the same in Broward; This punk was reported a gazillion times for threatening the public. UNTIL HE ACTED OUT.
I rather go back to the days of one flew over the kookoos nest, and we institutionalize the nuts... but DickTard and the snowflakes will scream unconstitutional meanness. On a different note, if any responding officer is found to not have acted, or acted outside the scope of their well documented training, they should be charged. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
I wish you guys would stop blaming each other as representation of the worst of your respective position. GI is no more responsible for all idiocy and cowardice of local police policy than is Vic for the Pope and RCC's policy. We stand them up against the wall for proxy firing squads. But is it right? Just sayin'. I don't think either of the above referenced posters respectively support Broward Co. Sheriff policy in this case, or the Papal NWO/Communism.
Hey, if cops die, then they die. If cops do stupid shit that get more kids killed or first responders killed, in the name of "bravery" outside the scope of their training, then they should be charged. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Spot on. I'm just as guilty... but methinks you won't ever see DickTard stop blaming me for all he hates, knowing what I've done in the last 24 years I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
I agree 100% on that count; THAT is a yuge part of the problem. Liberal-Dems and GOPe somehow concurred that it'd be "compassionate" to NOT institutionalize the lunatics that now terrorize America. THAT is on THEM (and NO ONE wants to consider the "nut" factor in this; Only the "medication" part or "too many gun" component...) Well chyeah -- when NUTS get their hands on gun, then guess what?? As to presuming Deckard's position on this, I'd bet he actually agrees with us on this, and with the anti-Snowflake position. On a different note, if any responding officer is found to not have acted, or acted outside the scope of their well documented training, they should be charged. Hear ya. I presume that to be your position.
Yup. I get it; At this forum NO ONE EVER wants to back down. No one ever wants to admit they're wrong. Myself included. That's how it's always been at both LP and LF... But sometimes we have to just do it
As to presuming Deckard's position on this, I'd bet he actually agrees with us on this, and with the anti-Snowflake position. Actually - I do agree with you on this. The only problem I can see is who decides what's crazy? The State can eventually use this much in the same way other tyrannical regimes have in the past, labeling dissenters and criticism of the government as insanity. The Badge Lickers should be immensely embarrassed !!! Would they allow internet access? If not this place would be a ghost town.
The only problem I can see is who decides what's crazy? [BECAUSE] The State can eventually use this much in the same way other tyrannical regimes have in the past, labeling dissenters and criticism of the government as insanity. Yep. Legit question and conundrums. We can all see where this logic leads... So again: "WHO DECIDES WHO AND WHAT IS CRAZY?" It's clear that's officially been tasked to the pro-Left American Psychiatric Association. So having been anointed America's high priests and arbiters of defining "CRAZY" on behalf of an over-officious State, we already see Law Enforcement deferring to a Judiciary/State, which in turn defers to the "behavioral experts" of a politically left APA when considering "crazy" or criminal guilt or sentencing. And ALL of it deferring to the Ministry of Propaganda, society's un-official Judge and Jury: THE OVER-ZEALOUS, INSANE LEFTIST MAINSTREAM and LEFTIST SOCIAL MEDIA OPINION. (Imagine that Crazy Train?) We can all see who the weaponized target of "Crazy/Insane" will be: Yup, Conservatives. Gun-owners. Christians. Republicans. Gubmint. And those critical of the APA itself, Democrats, Marxists or Globalists. The "Thought Crimes" list will be totally based on politics (as if it already hasn't.) Actual ways of determining "CRAZY" are AS WAS in the past. Like considering the frequency and degree of repeated physical threats and displays of public perversity and universal anti-social behavior (although no standard of morality, ethic or normalcy or "anti-social behavior" seems to be on the Left's radar or "universal" anymore in their queer paradigm. We can again thank the "Science" of Psychiatry for this.)
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest“We know it was approximately four minutes after the shooter departed the school when the first Coral Springs police officers arrived,’’ Israel told the pape[r]
#2. To: hondo68 (#0)
The school’s armed resource officer, Deputy Scot Peterson was also outside — he resigned Thursday over his failure to act.
#3. To: hondo68 (#1)
(Edited)
#4. To: GrandIsland, hondo68 (#3)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#5. To: Deckard (#4)
Really? If as you say they were merely follwing established protocols - why were the three suspended?
#6. To: Deckard (#4)
Next time - send some firefighters. Those guys run towards danger in order to save lives. Not cower in fear while kids are massacred.
#7. To: hondo68 (#0)
The sheriff — in comments to the Miami Herald — seemed to suggest that, even had these three deputies charged into Building 12 of Douglas HS, it would have been too late anyway.
#8. To: GrandIsland (#3)
Officers are allowed officer safety minded tactical decisions IF people aren't actively dying. Dumbshit.
#9. To: GrandIsland, deckard (#6)
As long as we don't send news media personnel, like you made a living at. There's not even one documented instance of a news anchor or reporter that's ever ran into an active gunman incident.
#10. To: sneakypete (#8)
Speaking of dumbshits,how are you supposed to know who's dying and who isn't while you are outside cowering behind your cars?
#11. To: GrandIsland, Security Tard, sneakypete, Deckard, buckeroo (#10)
#12. To: hondo68 (#0)
#13. To: redleghunter (#12)
#14. To: buckeroo (#13)
He could have been rubbing his religious prayer beads together and YOU are suggesting, "shame."
#15. To: redleghunter (#14)
#16. To: Broward Sheriff Scott Israel (#0)
(Edited)
#17. To: buckeroo (#15)
#18. To: redleghunter, buckeroo (#14)
(Edited)
You mean he is Muslim?
#19. To: redleghunter (#17)
#20. To: hondo68 (#18)
#21. To: hondo68 (#0)
“We know it was approximately four minutes after the shooter departed the school when the first Coral Springs police officers arrived,’’ Israel told the paped. “We’re investigating every aspect of this.”
#22. To: GrandIsland (#10)
It's not tactically smart to create more shot up victims, treating victims.+9-*/
#23. To: sneakypete (#22)
#24. To: Stoner (#23)
The Badge Lickers should be immensely embarrassed !!!
#25. To: GrandIsland (#3)
Officers are allowed officer safety minded tactical decisions IF people aren't actively dying.
#26. To: sneakypete (#22)
(Edited)
Because it's all about "Officer Safety" and not protecting the public,right?
#27. To: Pinguinite (#25)
As opposed to people passively dying? Wounded students could have possibly been saved had the deputies entered sooner.
#28. To: GrandIsland (#27)
(Edited)
Medical always comes after the scene is made safe enough to treat the injured...
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#29. To: Deckard (#28)
(Edited)
Kids dying
#30. To: GrandIsland (#29)
Need a tissue?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#31. To: hondo68 (#16)
Gay Sheriff wedding, Broward Sheriff Scott Israel Ramadan, and much more...
#32. To: Liberator (#31)
This punk was reported a gazillion times for threatening the public. UNTIL HE ACTED OUT.
#33. To: Deckard, GrandIsland, Vicomte13, A K A Stone (#30)
#34. To: Deckard (#30)
You seem to be the one crying that the poor widdle badged "heroes"
#35. To: Liberator (#33)
I wish you guys would stop blaming each other as representation of the worst of your respective position.
#36. To: GrandIsland, Deckard (#32)
(Edited)
I rather go back to the days of one flew over the kookoos nest, and we institutionalize the nuts... but DickTard and the snowflakes will scream unconstitutional meanness.
#37. To: GrandIsland (#35)
#38. To: Liberator (#36)
I rather go back to the days of one flew over the kookoos nest, and we institutionalize the nuts...
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#39. To: Stoner, copsucker Donnell (#23)
#40. To: GrandIsland (#32)
I rather go back to the days of one flew over the kookoos nest, and we institutionalize the nuts...
#41. To: Deckard, GrandIsland, redleghunter, rlk (#38)
Actually - I do agree with you on this.
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