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Title: Police Announce Program to Illegally Stop People for ‘SAFE Driving’ & Facebook Owns Them
Source: Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/po ... afe-driving-pull-over-rewards/
Published: Feb 23, 2018
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2018-02-23 09:47:01 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 353
Comments: 11

Crestview, FL — In an unprecedented violation of the right of citizens to be free from unlawful search and seizure, the Crestview Police Department in Florida has announced a most insidious program. Driving safely is now a reason for cops to pull you over—under the guise that you’ll be “offered free pizza.”

“A free Papa Murphy’s “FAVES” pizza awaits Crestview motorists who drive safely and courteously and get caught in the act,” reads the announcement on the department’s Facebook page.

“Under this program, Crestview Police officers may initiate a traffic stop based upon observed safe operation of a motor vehicle,” Community Services Officer Sam Kimmons said.

While the Free Thought Project has reported on programs where cops randomly pull people over to give them free stuff, this program crosses a line others did not by conducting an actual traffic stop.

“We’re going to reward you for good driving,” Police Chief Tony Taylor said. “It’s as simple as that.”

But it is not “as simple as that.” Pulling people over for driving safely is a direct violation of the 4th Amendment. And this department is not just giving people pizza, they are conducting actual traffic stops.

Under the program, officers have standardized criteria to look for. Examples of safe operation Ofc. Kimmons cites include “using hands-free devices or having children properly buckled up.” Others include using a seat belt, maintaining a safe following distance, courteous driving, proper use of turn signals, and observing the speed limit.

Here is where the program takes a turn for the worse. Safe drivers will only get the “reward” if they allow their rights to be violated and further submit to the illegal stop. Drivers who flex their rights get nothing, or worse.

When stopped for safe operation of their vehicles, drivers are offered the opportunity to opt out of the program and are immediately allowed to leave under most circumstances. If they wish to participate, the officer will ask for the driver’s license, vehicle registration and proof of insurance.

If all the documentation checks out, the officer will present the driver with a certificate for a free Papa Murphy’s “FAVES” pizza, redeemable at their Crestview location, 2670 Ferdon Blvd. S. (Not the Mini Murph Offc. Kimmons displays in the photo.)

See how they did that? Notice how they said, “under most circumstances,” meaning if they find anything when they walk up to your vehicle during the unlawful stop, you’re screwed—4th amendment be damned.

Only if the illegal stop, illegal detention, relinquishing of rights, and citizen submission all work out in your favor, then, and only then, will you get some coupon for a pizza. But, if they find one thing wrong, their illegal traffic stop just found a way to circumvent the 4th amendment.

However, if the documentation isn’t in order, or if the officer notices openly visible unlawful behavior or materials, such as DUI impairment, drug paraphernalia, narcotics or open alcoholic beverage containers, “proper law enforcement action will be taken,” Ofc. Kimmons said.

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In order for police to initiate a traffic stop, an officer must have reasonable suspicion that articulable facts indicate there is a crime being committed or about to be committed.

Safe driving is not reasonable suspicion and offering pizza coupons does not change this fact.

Luckily, however, people on Facebook are seeing right through it. There are hundreds of comments on the post and only a handful of people who actually support the program.

“I’m all for giving back to the community, but this is a horrible idea. Now you can literally pull anyone over for absolutely no reason, in the silent hopes you find something. Keep your pizza and save me the time and anxiety attack of being pulled over,” Jessica Roan wrote.

“You are pulling people over for abiding by the law….isnt it illegal to pull people over if they are not doing anything wrong? Pull me over for being a law abiding citizen and I will sue your ass,” writes Liz Stewart. “Go feed homeless people and stop harassing citizens.”

In one exchange on the post, the typical police apologist reaction of “if you don’t do anything illegal, you have nothing to worry about,” was presented and that person received the most epic reply pointing out that it is the police who are breaking the law.

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Judging from the reaction to this program the police department would do well to scrap it. If they do not, taxpayers of Crestview be warned: you are setting yourselves up to be fleeced in the countless lawsuits that are sure to follow. (2 images)

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Crestview, FL — In an unprecedented violation of the right of citizens to be free from unlawful search and seizure, the Crestview Police Department in Florida has announced a most insidious program. Driving safely is now a reason for cops to pull you over—under the guise that you’ll be “offered free pizza.”

Illegal and unconstitutional. This will not stand up in the first court it is contested in.

They can only stop you for probable cause. Anything else exceeds any lawful authority they have, even if they're throwing cash at you.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-23   12:08:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative (#1)

“You have the right not to accept the free pizza. Anything you say can and will be used for you to fulfill this right. You have the right to order your own pizza. If you cannot afford an pizza, you will not get one. Do you understand these rights I have just stated to you? With these rights in mind, do you wish to speak or file a lawsuit?”

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-23   12:24:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Gatlin (#2)

“You have the right not to accept the free pizza. Anything you say can and will be used for you to fulfill this right. You have the right to order your own pizza. If you cannot afford an pizza, you will not get one. Do you understand these rights I have just stated to you? With these rights in mind, do you wish to speak or file a lawsuit?”

I'll take a pepperoni with extra topping of Miranda rights.

If the cops aren't willing to deliver it to my door without a no-knock warrant, I'm not interested.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-23   12:37:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tooconservative (#4)

If not in Crestview, they surely would next door in DeFuniak Springs.

BTW – If there is any problem, just tell them that the “Panhandle Kid” said you’re okay.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-23   12:45:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#5)

BTW – If there is any problem, just tell them that the “Panhandle Kid” said you’re okay.

Cops in my state just aren't this stupid.

On very rare occasions, they do try something dumb like this and it causes them far more trouble than it's worth.

Some states, you're better off not harassing the motorists much unless they're driving recklessly. And then you have plenty of cause to stop them anyway.

The last "cute" trick I saw them pulling was putting up temporary signs on the interstate, warning "DEA Checkpoint Ahead". The signs were placed a mile or so prior to an dusty rural interstate exit. Naturally, they had cops watching who immediately got off the interstate with out-of-state plates.

They seem to have given up on that since the various states that legalized weed made it problematic. They don't want to fill the state prisons with people busted for small amounts of wacky tobacco. Too expensive, let that crime move through the state unimpeded.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-23   13:09:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#7. To: Tooconservative (#6)

BTW – If there is any problem, just tell them that the “Panhandle Kid” said you’re okay.

Cops in my state just aren't this stupid.

It may be stupid to you, but it is not stupid to them.

I know that area and the people well….I still have family scattered close by there.

The cops have done things similar to this all the time and they have been well accepted by the home folks.

I predict you will never read about any problem with this if you mark the article for “follow up reports.”

The local cops do not patrol the Interstate….only city traffic. So, there are seldom any out-of-towners (foreigners) driving through.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-23 13:22:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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