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Title: More Gun Violence: Let’s Look Beyond Politics
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Lew Rockwell/Ron Paul Institute
URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/02 ... nce-lets-look-beyond-politics/
Published: Feb 21, 2018
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2018-02-21 06:06:17 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 1179
Comments: 13
Another terrible school shooting took place in Parkland, Florida last week and unfortunately many politicians and pundits have used the tragedy – as they often do – to push their own agenda. Many will use the tragedy to argue that Americans should be prohibited from owning guns. As if anti-gun laws would dissuade a disturbed or violent individual intent on causing harm. Those intent on mass murder don’t obey gun laws. For example, why do those calling for more gun control remain silent when armed federal agents raid Amish farms to stop them from selling raw milk? This shows the hypocrisy of those who call for restrictions on private firearms ownership while supporting the use of government violence as a means of controlling our lives. Unfortunately there are many key questions lost in the race to score political points from the shooting. Why does it always seem that the shooter in these mass killings has been on some kind of psychotropic drugs? As the New American magazine pointed out this week, at least ten high profile mass shootings have been committed by individuals who “were either on — or just recently coming off of — psychiatric medications.” The young killer in Florida was no different. According to his aunt, he had been on these medications to treat mental problems. Why is no one questioning these medications – all of which come with labels warning of horrific side effects? Perhaps one reason they are ignored is that the pharmaceutical industry spends billions of dollars lobbying Congress. Also, how is it possible that the FBI once again missed so many obvious clues that a violent person intent on causing massive harm to others was about to strike? Is the FBI actually this incompetent, or perhaps its focus was in other areas — like meddling in our own elections by presenting “evidence” they knew was flawed to the FISA court to get permission to spy on the Trump campaign? We’ve heard many stories of how alert FBI field agents tried to alert their bosses before 9/11 that foreigners were taking flight lessons but were not interested in learning how to land the planes. Is giving the federal government more power to spy on us – as they demand – the answer to stop these terrible crimes? Hardly! Those who think that giving federal authorities greater surveillance powers might prevent mass shootings should consider that the FBI has been alerted that the latest school shooter had made Facebook posts and YouTube comments talking about his intention to be, as he put it, “a professional school shooter.” But the Bureau failed to properly investigate the tips. If the FBI fails to stop someone who openly boasts about their intentions on social media why should we believe that giving them the power to snoop on every American would increase our safety? We cannot stop tragedies like this by banning guns. We need to look seriously into the psychotropic drugs that more and more Americans are being prescribed. We need to demand that our elected Representatives demand a real day of reckoning at the FBI. We need to keep focused and ignore those who politicize such events. 
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
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Impossible! It's ALL about politics because even a retard understand there is no such thing as a violent gun than there is a violent watermelon. They are inert OBJECTS WITH NO MIND OR WILL OF THEIR OWN. It is the height of hypocrisy for the left,who have done nothing their whole lives but try to ferment violent revolution in America to now jump on a anti-violence bandwagon. Why does it always seem that the shooter in these mass killings has been on some kind of psychotropic drugs? Ok,WE need to be honest,too. That's a "which came first,the chicken or the egg?" question. The left is trying to blame all this on guns,and the right is trying to blame it all on drugs. Both are either lying and know it,or lying and too stupid to realize it. No gun has ever made anyone mentally unstable,and the drugs shrinks give to people to calm them,calm them. The problems happen with SOME drugs if the patients quit taking them,not BECAUSE they take them. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
spoken like an obvious gun nut, a watermelon is unlikely to kill you even if it hits you in the head and is not a viable weapon beyond ten feet, a gun was engineered to kill and go on killing at much greater distance. Yes you need an idiot on the end of the gun to create the lethal scenario and why is it you don't want to be protected from idiots? I would say it is because you are an idiot too. You want to protect from the gun by sedating the population or at least the idiots, it is easier to take away the lethal weapon from the gun nuts until they learn safe usage of said weapon and not to let them in the hands of children, the insane, the jihadists, the racially challenged, the drug takers, the criminal element. That is more than half the population, you may as well go the rest of the way. There are 300,000,000 guns and about 50,000,000 actaully qualifed to have one
No gun has ever made anyone mentally unstable,and the drugs shrinks give to people to calm them, calm SOME of them. Anyone's that's sick enough to be prescribed drugs to keep them calm, should be monitored until the shrinks are sure the problem is cured. -- If monitoring means incarceration, so be it..
I want the inalienable right I have to protect MYSELF to be honored.. Why is it you want me to be unable to do so?
Kinda like the when Kulaks weren't (according to the Bolsheviks anyhow) "qualified" to live on their farms? Who "qualified" the Bolsheviks to make that decision? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxwIKqqEd2k
"...Also, how is it possible that the FBI once again missed so many obvious clues that a violent person intent on causing massive harm to others was about to strike? Is the FBI actually this incompetent, or perhaps its focus was in other areas — like meddling in our own elections by presenting 'evidence' they knew was flawed to the FISA court to get permission to spy on the Trump campaign?" We’ve heard many stories of how alert FBI field agents tried to alert their bosses before 9/11 that foreigners were taking flight lessons but were not interested in learning how to land the planes. Ooops.
Both are either lying and know it,or lying and too stupid to realize it. You're wrong to equivocate what the Left does (Lies 100% of the time) with what the Right does (Tells the truth 75% of the time.) Yes, the Left blames "guns," but far more than that... The Left blames and hates: Trump, Whitey, "culture of macho men," the 2A, The Republican Party, Conservatives, AND Christians, etal. Marxists understandably offer NO solution other than the blatant violation of several Constitutional Rights. because they are about "Rebellion" and "The Resistance" IN ANY CASE. In other words, they blame anything and everything BUT their own policies -- their soft enforcement of THE law, their coddling of crazies and criminal class, their moral relativism, their utopian socialist vision for an unarmed society/nation, capitalism, etc. The "Right" is merely trying to follow AND uphold Constitutional Law and Bill of Rights, and trying to maintain a polite society. Ultimately, following The Law is about abiding in an Honor System. An Honor System rooted in Morality and Ethics.
You also need EVIL at the end of a gun, one who lacks a sense of morality, of ethics -- as well as one who totally disrespects and hates the Law as well as his fellow man. Leftists/Marxists BY THEIR NATURE are at war with Order, of any Law, morality or ethic. They abide in no Law of or from God. They are REBELS. Their "cause" is rebellion and creating chaos. What's not to understand about this equation? Q: ARE there exceptions when drugs affect judgment? Yes. You want to protect from the gun by sedating the population or at least the idiots, it is easier to take away the lethal weapon from the gun nuts until they learn safe usage of said weapon... Keyword "nuts." Are you aware that ever since the Left and Dem politicians did away with mental institutions, these types of shootings, homeless populations and incidences of the drug-addled and NUTS doing crazy things in pubic have become EPIDEMIC?? Aren't you blaming OTHERS for the actions and personal responsibility of the actual perps? Why not blame the Leftist-Socialists who've hijacked the gubmints' Social Services industry, the APA, Academia, and Entertainment Industries? Why not blame Hollywood and Music (rap) which has glamorized and glorified violence as an "entertainment" medium? Can you explain why during ALL previous decades mass shooting were RARE -- even when guns were ubiquitous? Can you explain why THAT was and still is?? "...Take away the lethal weapon from the gun nuts until they learn safe usage of said weapon and not to let them in the hands of children, the insane, the jihadists, the racially challenged, the drug takers, the criminal element. You'll need to support actual LAW ENFORCEMENT that is already on the books. And do away with "GUN-FREE" Zones which are magnets for cowards, haters, and nuts. If school bureaucrats, gubmint bureaucrats, judges, and certain agencies refuse to enforce laws, said laws and your mandate are USE-LESS. Thus, said NUTS, Jihadis, druggies, and anyone without ANY sense of morality; ANYONE at war with their wife, office, school, institutions...are free to emulate their Video Game Heroes or heed the encouragement of their co-Leftist Haters.
while not wanting others to be protected. What do you want to protect yourself from? do you live in fear? when have you had to use a gun to protect yourself? It is fantasy, it is a nightmare
Gun grabbers such as yourself, first and foremost! After that, run of the mill scumbags. Your make a good case for fully automatic weapons, and lots of ammo.
I want the inalienable right I have to protect MYSELF to be honored.. --- Why is it you want me to be unable to do so? --- tpaine --- while not wanting others to be protected. What do you want to protect yourself from? do you live in fear? when have you had to use a gun to protect yourself? Your claim that I don't want to protect others from loonies and terrorists is crazy. -- I only used a gun professionally for 3 years in the army, and in those days we all feared the cold war turning hot. How bout you, ever served?
Maybe for you,who seem to have led a sheltered life,but I've had to pull a gun to protect myself 3 times since getting out of the army,and a couple of times I didn't have to pull it. I just told them I had it and would pull it and shoot them dead if they didn't back the bleep off. In none of these cases was it necessary to shoot,but I would have if push had come to shove. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I had three years of military training in my teens. I live in a place where violent confrontation is not the norm and that is because the population doesn't feel the need to be armed. This doesn't mean guns don't exist or that fights don't occur. I personally know the dangers of guns in the household, as child I took my uncle's pistol and aimed it at another child. My disturbed teenage son stole guns and my house was under siege until he surrendered. On one occasion I had to personally disarm him
More Gun Violence: Let’s Look Beyond Politics
#2. To: sneakypete (#1)
It's ALL about politics because even a retard understand there is no such thing as a violent gun than there is a violent watermelon
#3. To: sneakypete (#1)
No gun has ever made anyone mentally unstable,and the drugs shrinks give to people to calm them,calm them. The problems happen with SOME drugs if the patients quit taking them,not BECAUSE they take them.
#4. To: paraclete, Y'ALL (#2)
Yes you need an idiot on the end of the gun to create the lethal scenario and why is it you don't want to be protected from idiots?
#5. To: paraclete (#2)
(Edited)
There are 300,000,000 guns and about 50,000,000 actaully qualifed to have one
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#6. To: Deckard (#0)
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#7. To: sneakypete (#1)
The left is trying to blame all this on guns,and the right is trying to blame it all on drugs.
#8. To: paraclete, sneakypete (#2)
Yes you need an idiot on the end of the gun to create the lethal scenario and why is it you don't want to be protected from idiots?
#9. To: tpaine (#4)
I want the inalienable right I have to protect MYSELF to be honored..
#10. To: paraclete, tpaine (#9)
What do you want to protect yourself from?
#11. To: paraclete (#9)
: paraclete, Y'ALL --- you need an idiot on the end of the gun to create the lethal scenario and why is it you don't want to be protected from idiots?I
#12. To: paraclete (#9)
This debate is all about ego
#13. To: tpaine (#11)
(Edited)
How bout you, ever served?
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