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Title: Cops Busted Running Major Steroid Ring—Selling Roids to Other Cops For Years
Source: Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/co ... roids-to-other-cops-for-years/
Published: Feb 18, 2018
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2018-02-19 08:34:10 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 8012
Comments: 62

Edmonton, CA — Two Edmonton police officers were found guilty this week for running a highly profitable steroid ring—selling anabolic steroids to fellow cops.

Edmonton Police officer Greg Lewis was tried and convicted on multiple counts of trafficking a controlled substance while he ostensibly protected the people of Edmonton.

“Given (the) convictions on two of those charges, disciplinary proceedings under the Police Service Regulation will now be initiated,” said EPS spokesperson Carolin Maran.

In their decision, however, the court somewhat justified the cop’s use and sale of steroids as a means of being fit.

While reading his decision, Brooker detailed how Lewis, 36, was a “proponent of fitness” who had a reputation for knowing where to find steroids, reported CBC.

Lewis has been on unpaid suspension since he was busted in March of 2015. After a two-year investigation by the Alberta Serious Incident Response Team, Lewis was finally charged.

During the trial, Lewis admitted to both using steroids and selling them to his colleagues. What’s more, his fellow cops even testified that they bought the drugs from him.

The other officer charged with Lewis, Darren French, pleaded guilty in June 2016 to two counts of trafficking Stanozolol and Methyl-1-Testosterone, according to CBC.

While Lewis’s sentencing has been delayed until further notice, French received a slap on the wrist for his role in the ring.

French was given probation and a $1,500 fine and was allowed to retire with his pension for his 25 years of ‘service.’

While it is certainly the belief of the Free Thought Project that anyone should be able to put anything into their own body without persecution of the state, police officers using anabolic steroids—which included a host of aggressive side effects—is an extremely bad idea.

There is no question that many police officers use performance-enhancing drugs. In fact, the problem of police steroid use became so bad, in 2004, the DEA intervened to warn of the “possible psychological disturbances” of roid-raging cops.

The DEA said symptoms included:

  • Mood swings (including manic-like symptoms leading to violence)
  • Impaired judgment (stemming from feelings of invincibility)
  • Depression
  • Nervousness
  • Extreme irritability
  • Delusions
  • Hostility and aggression

Eventually, a few years later, the International Association of Chiefs of Police, made up of 16,000 members worldwide set a standard that “calls upon state and local law enforcement entities to establish a model policy prohibiting the use of illegally obtained steroids” by officers.

However, this policy never happened.

Not only do cops vehemently resist being drug tested by their departments, claiming it is a violation of their civil rights, they are also frequently caught selling steroids.

steroid-cops

“This is one of the dirty little secrets of American law enforcement,” says Gregory Gilbertson, a former Atlanta cop who teaches criminal justice in the Seattle area and works as a legal expert on police standards and practices, according to Alternet. “Steroid testing is declining, and I think there’s an attitude in all these agencies of ‘see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil’ because they don’t want to know about it. Because if they know about it, then they have to address it.”

These Edmonton cops are not alone either. As the Free Thought Project previously reported, Darrion Holiwell, 51, was arrested and charged for not only taking steroids but dealing them to other SWAT deputies on the force, as well as people outside the agency.

As Alternet pointed out, the cases of cops using and selling steroids are anything but isolated.

These are some of the cases that have made news in the past year, though there likely are others that have not been revealed publicly:

  • In June, a Jeffersonville, Ind., cop, Anthony Mills, resigned after pleading guilty to possession of steroids. His attorney told the media that Mills did not consider steroids to be illegal drugs.
  • This spring, authorities in Edmonton, Alberta, revealed that a handful of police officers had been involved in the use or distribution of Stanozolol, the steroid commonly sold as Winstrol. More than 30 officers in Edmonton have been implicated in steroid use in the past few years, according to press reports there.
  • In January, a Portland, Ore. cop who faced firing for a positive steroid test was allowed to resign.
  • Last fall, a scandal rocked police in the Augusta, Ga., area when a man arrested for steroids possession gave authorities a list of steroid users among local law enforcement officers. At least one deputy resigned; authorities denied that the list included as many 30 others.
  • Also last fall, the Miami New Times revealed that Miami-Dade police officers had been customers of Biogenesis, a South Florida steroid clinic at the heart of professional baseball’s ongoing doping scandal.

The dangers of cops taking steroids are obvious, as the rage associated with their use can become uncontrollable. All too often, we see police officers immediately escalate situations to violence when de-escalation would have been far easier and safer. Steroids could be the reason.

“I keep seeing all of these cases where the level of anger and violence shown by officers makes no sense,” Gilbertson says. “And when things don’t make sense, they don’t make sense for a reason…Maybe steroid rage is a reason so many police officers seem so angry and aggressive.”

Cops on the juice feel indestructible, as if they have superhuman strength.

Or as the DEA puts it, “The idea of enhanced physical strength and endurance provides one with ‘the invincible mentality’ when performing law enforcement duties.”

Starting to make sense now?

“Reasonable suspicion should be raised if they shoot somebody or beat the living daylights out of somebody,” Dan Handelman, a founding member of Portland Copwatch told Alternet. “In some of these recent cases, the officers seemed to be pumped up and were not necessarily working in a calm and level-headed manner. We wonder how much of this was coming from natural adrenalin and how much coming from other substances.” (1 image)

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

I don't really blame them. They are told you can't "knightstick" them, can't kill them, can't taser them and you just have to physically subdue them without harming them or be sued. Well try doing this to a 300lb drugged out crazy person with probably HIV or other non-curable diseases!

Im really surprised there are police with all the sit they have to deal with. Who the hell would want to have a job like this?

Justified  posted on  2018-02-19   9:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#0)

Edmonton Police officer Greg Lewis was tried and convicted on multiple counts of trafficking a controlled substance while he ostensibly protected the people of Edmonton.

That means the police, policed the police. Dumb shit.

750,000+ sworn officers and you think a group that size won't have a few doing stupid shit? Are we all suppose to run off and join ANTIFA now?

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-19   10:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: GrandIsland (#2)

750,000+ sworn officers and you think a group that size won't have a few doing stupid shit?

Yeah - just a few "bad apples"

These are some of the cases that have made news in the past year, though there likely are others that have not been revealed publicly:

  • In June, a Jeffersonville, Ind., cop, Anthony Mills, resigned after pleading guilty to possession of steroids. His attorney told the media that Mills did not consider steroids to be illegal drugs.
  • This spring, authorities in Edmonton, Alberta, revealed that a handful of police officers had been involved in the use or distribution of Stanozolol, the steroid commonly sold as Winstrol. More than 30 officers in Edmonton have been implicated in steroid use in the past few years, according to press reports there.
  • In January, a Portland, Ore. cop who faced firing for a positive steroid test was allowed to resign.
  • Last fall, a scandal rocked police in the Augusta, Ga., area when a man arrested for steroids possession gave authorities a list of steroid users among local law enforcement officers. At least one deputy resigned; authorities denied that the list included as many 30 others.
  • Also last fall, the Miami New Times revealed that Miami-Dade police officers had been customers of Biogenesis, a South Florida steroid clinic at the heart of professional baseball’s ongoing doping scandal.

The dangers of cops taking steroids are obvious, as the rage associated with their use can become uncontrollable. All too often, we see police officers immediately escalate situations to violence when de-escalation would have been far easier and safer. Steroids could be the reason.

Which begs the questions - are you taking steroids psycho-cop?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-19   10:19:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard (#3)

Why aren't you taking the position that these anti steroid laws are unconstitutional. You finally get a cop ignoring drug law like you constantly preach. Then you get upset when one does it. So are drug laws constitutional or not?

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-02-19   10:21:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Why aren't you taking the position that these anti steroid laws are unconstitutional. You finally get a cop ignoring drug law like you constantly preach.

You're kind of a moron. Steroids are not a recreational drug for one thing assclown.

Cops aren't tested for drugs - yet a cop can demand a test from any citizen at any time.

The dangers of cops taking steroids are obvious, as the rage associated with their use can become uncontrollable. All too often, we see police officers immediately escalate situations to violence when de-escalation would have been far easier and safer. Steroids could be the reason.

“I keep seeing all of these cases where the level of anger and violence shown by officers makes no sense,” Gilbertson says. “And when things don’t make sense, they don’t make sense for a reason…Maybe steroid rage is a reason so many police officers seem so angry and aggressive.”

Cops on the juice feel indestructible, as if they have superhuman strength.

Or as the DEA puts it, “The idea of enhanced physical strength and endurance provides one with ‘the invincible mentality’ when performing law enforcement duties.”

These badged thugs are dangerous enough without the steroids - why would you want to give them a free pass?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-19   10:34:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deckard (#5) (Edited)

You said prohibiting drug use is unconstitutional.

Now you don't care. You're quite the hypocrite.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-02-19   10:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#3)

5 cases... 750,000 PLUS sworn officers. I'm bored with your agitate propaganda. I'm not one of your scared WEAK sheep that get triggered from your bullshit.

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-19   11:13:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#6) (Edited)

You said prohibiting drug use is unconstitutional.

Fine - let's dole out steroids to ALL the cops - what could possibly go wrong?

You seem to think that cops need not adhere to the law.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-19   11:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deckard (#8)

You seem to think that cops need not adhere to the law.

But... but... but... your very own yella article stated the cops were arrested for the steroid incident. So why would you suggest Stone doesn't feel cops should obey the law?

Everyone should obey the drug laws... even you drug addict lovers. See the hypocrisy Stone was pointing out?

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-19   11:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Deckard (#0) (Edited)

Starting to make sense now?
It is DEFINITELY not….it makes NO sense at all.

A google search turns up no police officer named Greg Lewis on any Edmonton, California, police force.

Neither is there a police officer named Darren French on any Edmonton, California, police force.

Hey Deckard....exactly where is Edmonton, California?

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-20   0:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard, All (#10)

You are desperately needed over on this thread to show everyone where the Edmonton, California, you posted about is located.

BTW – There is group of gospel singers also looking for a city:

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-20   9:38:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Gatlin (#10)

A google search turns up no police officer named Greg Lewis on any Edmonton, California, police force.

Edmonton city police officer found guilty of trafficking steroids

An Edmonton police officer accused of trafficking anabolic steroids between 2007 and 2013 has been found guilty on two charges.

A former member of the Edmonton drug and gang enforcement unit, Det. Greg Lewis, faced three charges of trafficking in a controlled substance after he was arrested in March 2016 following a two-year investigation by the Alberta Serious Incident Response Team (ASIRT).

On Tuesday, Court of Queen’s Bench Justice Scott Brooker found Lewis guilty of two charges of trafficking in a controlled substance, but not guilty on a third because of unreliable witness testimony.

The 36-year-old was one of two officers charged as a result of the police watchdog’s investigation into events nearly a decade old.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-20   9:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Deckard, , Justified, A K A Stone, GrandIsland, Tooconservative, sneakypete, misterwhite, All (#12)

Gatlin Posted:
A google search turns up no police officer named Greg Lewis on any Edmonton, California, police force.
Deckard Replied:
Edmonton city police officer found guilty of trafficking steroids

An Edmonton police officer accused of trafficking anabolic steroids between 2007 and 2013 has been found guilty on two charges.

A former member of the Edmonton drug and gang enforcement unit, Det. Greg Lewis, faced three charges of trafficking in a controlled substance after he was arrested in March 2016 following a two-year investigation by the Alberta Serious Incident Response Team (ASIRT).

On Tuesday, Court of Queen’s Bench Justice Scott Brooker found Lewis guilty of two charges of trafficking in a controlled substance, but not guilty on a third because of unreliable witness testimony.

The 36-year-old was one of two officers charged as a result of the police watchdog’s investigation into events nearly a decade old.

Matt Argost wrote in the article you posted:
Edmonton, CA — Two Edmonton police officers were found guilty this week for running a highly profitable steroid ring—selling anabolic steroids to fellow cops. [I underlined the “CA” to emphasize Matt Argost intentionally wrote “California”].
There in NO city anywhere in CALIFORNIA named EDMONTON.

Matt Argost LIED and took a story from a incident that happened in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada then omitted certain facts and phrases from that story, changed that story, then factiously made up a city in California he named Edmonton, California and posted FAKE NEWS to again try to make all cops look bad.

There is no such city in California named Edmonton. Matt Argost figured that no one would fact-check his article and he could slip it by everyone to continue with his cop- hating crusade.

In in your gross ignorance....you came along and posted Fake News for the same agenda purpose.

You are biggest truth-blinded asshole I have ever encountered ...

Now you go “fetch” a list of cities and towns in California or look at any map of California and find for everyone to see....a city or town in California named: Edmonton.

Here, dumb shit....I will save you the time and effort. Check this out: Complete list of cities and towns in California.

ROTFLMAO @ ur stupidity ...

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-20   11:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Deckard, Justified, A K A Stone, GrandIsland, Tooconservative, sneakypete, misterwhite, All (#13)

Correct ping to Post #13 ...

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-20   11:41:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Gatlin (#13) (Edited)

[I underlined the “CA” to emphasize Matt Argost intentionally wrote “California”].

Many people think that CA is an international abbreviation for Canada, as US or USA is for America. Even Google does this some. My own DDG search for Edmonton, CA shows in the first two results the following:

The article indicates Edmonton, Alberta repeatedly and references Canadian law enforcement by mentioning such details as "Court of Queen’s Bench Justice Scott Brooker". No literate American believes that the Edmonton being referenced was anywhere except Canada.

I see comparable typos in articles even from major media sources on an almost daily basis.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-20   11:57:43 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Gatlin (#13)

Matt Argost LIED and took a story from a incident that happened in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada then omitted certain facts and phrases from that story, changed that story, then factiously made up a city in California he named Edmonton, California and posted FAKE NEWS to again try to make all cops look bad.

Good find.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-02-20   11:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: misterwhite (#16)

Not a "good find". Bogus. See my previous.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-20   12:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Gatlin, misterwhite (#13)

Following up, I'll mention two other bits of official designation of Canada from Wiki:

ISO 3166 code 	CA
Internet TLD 	.ca

IOW, you're wrong and trying to make a mountain out of a fake molehill.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-20   12:07:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Gatlin (#10)

A google search turns up no police officer named Greg Lewis on any Edmonton, California, police force.

The writer, Matt Agorist, never used the word 'California' at all. He did mention "Edmonton, CA" in his byline that opened the article and went on to mention "Alberta".

I can't see any reason why any literate American would think the article was about anything except Canadian cops in a steroid ring.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-20   12:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Gatlin, Deckard, , Justified, A K A Stone, GrandIsland, Tooconservative, sneakypete, misterwhite, All (#13)

A google search turns up no police officer named Greg Lewis on any Edmonton, California, police force.

tater -

You went to a lot of meaningless work to prove Deckard wrong. I hate to break it to you but you are full of shit. "CA" isn't California and Deckard never said that it was.

I have a recommendation for you. Take a Alzheimer's pill to relive the symptom of stress in your daily life.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-02-20   12:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: buckeroo (#20)

"CA" isn't California and Deckard never said that it was.

Well, to an American, "CA" is California, as it obviously is to Gatlin.

That doesn't mean it's true for everyone. Canadians obviously think otherwise and so does the rest of the world.

I don't doubt that people trying to send mail to Alberta or other Canadian provinces have a few problems as a result. CA is California to nearly all Americans (other than those living on the northern border) and CA is Canada to everyone else around the world.

Many people get confused between the postal codes and the TLDs and the ISO designations. You can't really blame them as it's a mess.

Actual mail addressed to Edmonton, Alberta in Canada would be addressed to "Edmonton, AB". Not "Edmonton, CA". That does not make Matt Agorist's opening of "Alberta, CA" incorrect because he was not addressing a letter to Alberta; he was correctly designating Edmonton as a town in the internationally recognized sovereign territory of Canada.

CanadaPost: Addressing Guidelines, the official Canadian postal service

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-20   12:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Tooconservative (#19)

I can't see any reason why any literate American would think the article was about anything except Canadian cops in a steroid ring.

I can,but it's not the writers fault,it is the readers fault. It's easy to read something like that,see the abbreviation "CA",and just assume it's California. We all do it,including me. This just means we need to read more carefully and not jump to assumptions.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-20   12:39:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Tooconservative, tater, Deckard (#21)

Well, to an American, "CA" is California, as it obviously is to Gatlin.

Well, tater could have performed improved research about Deckard's article posted as:

United States News See other United States News Articles

But instead, he went through a tirade and publickly displayed the same. Unlike you, I have no sympathy for the madman.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-02-20   12:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeroo (#23)

Well, tater could have performed improved research about Deckard's article posted as:

Well, that is often the default suggested category. Some people don't pay much attention to Category when posting. And Deckard's article included other instances of cop roiding here in the States. So about half the article did address American cops, not Canadian.

But instead, he went through a tirade and publickly displayed the same. Unlike you, I have no sympathy for the madman.

Madman? That sounds like some personal animus.

Don't attribute malice to what can just as easily be minor factual errors about postal codes and international ISO designations.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-20   12:54:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Tooconservative (#15)

No literate American believes that the Edmonton being referenced was anywhere except Canada.
The literate American should know that “AB” is the official two-letter abbreviations that must be used for the city of Edmonton located in the province of Alberta in Canada. One must always use Edmonton, AB when referring to the city of Edmonton in the province of Alberta in Canada.

There is no official two-letter abbreviation of Edmonton, CA or Edmonton, CN for the city Edmonton that is located in Alberta, Canada....and those two-letter abbreviations should never be used for any reason.

The literate American should also know that Matt Agorst does not write for, or have a reading audience of, literate Americans.

Matt Argost is no idiot and there should be no question that he knew exactly what he doing with his misuse of the official two-letter abbreviation to place the city of Edmonton in California in his article....it was intentionally meant to be misleading.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-20   12:56:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Tooconservative, tater, yukon (#24)

Madman? That sounds like some personal animus.

It isn't my fault that tater sucks yukon off. It was written all over LP, when Salley allowed yukon to demonstrate his personal problems in publick and eventually tater supported the queer. And, tater carries on to this day but in darker more vivid detail of his lapses of consciousness.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-02-20   13:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Tooconservative (#21)

Well, to an American, "CA" is California, as it obviously is to Gatlin.

And with the excepting on one Aussie, so far as I know, it is only Americans here on LF who are reading the posted article. Ergo, CA obviously is meant to be “California.” There in no Edmonton, “CA” designation for city of Edmonton located in the province of Alberta in Canada.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-20   13:04:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete, Tooconsrvative (#22)

I can't see any reason why any literate American would think the article was about anything except Canadian cops in a steroid ring.

I can,but it's not the writers fault,it is the readers fault. It's easy to read something like that,see the abbreviation "CA",and just assume it's California. We all do it,including me. This just means we need to read more carefully and not jump to assumptions.

I can too and I believe that everyone who read the article before my post assumed the city of Edmonton named in the article was definitely in California....although I don’t expect anyone to admit that.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-20   13:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: buckeroo (#20) (Edited)

I hate to break it to you but you are full of shit. "CA" isn't California and Deckard never said that it was.

Don't be so hard on the old boy - it's just Gatlin being Gatlin.

He focuses on some petty minutiae like an abbreviation or some other ridiculousness and then rants about the article being FAKE NEWS.

You see - Parsons (Gatlin) is what experts call a disinformation asset - he is here to put the kibosh on anything that disturbs his Pollyanna-ish world view.

In his Bizarro World - cops are gods. That's the only thing you have to know about Parsons.

His posts reflect that submissive authority fetish.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-20   13:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Tooconservative, buckeroo (#24)

sympathy for the madman

Sounds like a good name for a band. Maybe one doing Rolling Stones covers.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-20   13:16:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Gatlin (#25)

The literate American should know that “AB” is the official two-letter abbreviations that must be used for the city of Edmonton located in the province of Alberta in Canada. One must always use Edmonton, AB when referring to the city of Edmonton in the province of Alberta in Canada.

For postal and delivery services, yes.

Otherwise, "Alberta, CA" is an officially recognized ISO standard for referring to Alberta.

Matt Argost is no idiot and there should be no question that he knew exactly what he doing with his misuse of the official two-letter abbreviation to place the city of Edmonton in California in his article....it was intentionally meant to be misleading.

FTP and Alternet do cultivate an international following which does include Canada. You can't blame them for using the officially designated abbreviations.

This article is somewhat dishonest in that it uses a Canadian case of cops roiding it up and then switch to a bunch of American cop examples, DEA, etc. That is Agorist's real dishonest reporting IMO. Most of his article was a rant about American cops and roids, not about his clickbait opening about cops in Edmonton, CA (Canada, not California).

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-20   13:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Tooconservative (#24)

And Deckard's article included other instances of cop roiding here in the States. So about half the article did address American cops, not Canadian.
He made no distinctive transition and continue to address the point like he was still talking about cops in the States.

He did not say that in Canada, they also have these problems....and list them.

Once again, Argost was definitely misleading to make readers think he had been talking abut cops in California and not in Canada

Agorst knew all the time what he was doing.

And I still firmly believe that everyone here on LF who read the article for the first time, Deckard included.....believed that Argost was talking about cops in a city in California.

Knowing you, I believe I can safely say that you read the article before you read my posts about the article. I therefore ask you: In reading the article for the first time, did you believe the incident took place in California? Please answer my question.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-20   13:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Tooconservative (#31)

Otherwise, "Alberta, CA" is an officially recognized ISO standard for referring to Alberta.

Argost was never referring to an officially recognized ISO standard.

This article is somewhat dishonest in that it uses a Canadian case of cops roiding it up and then switch to a bunch of American cop examples, DEA, etc.

The only way I can see this....is that it was meant to be intentionally misleading.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-20   13:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#28)

I can too and I believe that everyone who read the article before my post assumed the city of Edmonton named in the article was definitely in California....although I don’t expect anyone to admit that.

I didn't. In part because Edmonton is an unusual spelling and would be unlikely to be found in America. It would be typical of spellings from 19th century British Commonwealth countries like Canada and Australia. Edmonton's population is 932,000 as of 2016.

Edmonton is a pretty large city in Alberta. It is not some unknown rural village. It is Canada's fifth largest city according to Wiki.

The top four are Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, and Ottawa. And Ottawa only beat Edmonton by a few thousand, both being just under 1 million in population.

Edmonton is hardly unknown and is one of North America's major metro areas. And saying that is not just some FTP propaganda. It is a fact, according to the 2016 Canadian census.

But then, a Phoenician like yourself knew all that, right? BTW, how many people would even know that a resident of Phoenix is officially known as a Phoenician? Or would assume that that word signifies the ancient people known in the Bible as Phoenicians?

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-20   13:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Gatlin (#32)

In reading the article for the first time, did you believe the incident took place in California? Please answer my question.

No. Because Alberta automatically means Canada to me.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-20   13:33:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Tooconservative, tater, Deckard (#35)

No. Because Alberta automatically means Canada to me.

Most of us will probably agree.

But did you notice tater, crawling on his knees humbling himself to you begging for your take on his stupid interpretation? I did. This is what is so wrong with the poster about his own dirty deeds. He REACTS as opposed to any preventive research.

He is a complete babbling, lunatic that has lost his mind in his elder years.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-02-20   13:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: buckeroo (#36)

He's not being all that humble. He's fighting a retreat under fire and doing so fairly well.

Defeated for now but not exactly leaving the field of battle or conceding the war.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-20   13:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Gatlin (#25)

...misuse of the official two-letter abbreviation to place the city of Edmonton in California

Alberta is mentioned in the article - did you bother to read the entire story?

After a two-year investigation by the Alberta Serious Incident Response Team, Lewis was finally charged.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-20   13:47:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Tooconservative (#21)

CanadaPost: Addressing Guidelines, the official Canadian postal service
Right....Edmonton, AB and not Edmonton, CA.

Also, I noticed that Agorst only referred to a Justice in his article simply as “Brooker.” There was no tie-in as to who “booker” was. In the original article Booker was named “Court of Queen's Bench Justice Scott Brooker.” But Argost decided not to use that title, because then everyone would have known that no judge in California was ever called “Queen's Bench Justice.” The man has the art of deception down pat and that is why he and his partner are making so much money “click-baiting” on the TFTP Website....but it is still so easy to see though his deception, if you only look closely.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-20   13:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Tooconservative (#37)

... and doing so fairly well.

You are insane; perhaps that is why he crawled over to you.

Defeated for now but not exactly leaving the field of battle or conceding the war.

He has no capability of understanding a rational discussion for the purposes of education; instead he leashes out on TIRADES of irrational behaviour.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-02-20   13:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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