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Title: Yet another agency says that they were tipped off about Nikolas Cruz
Source: Rare
URL Source: https://rare.us/rare-news/across-th ... tipped-off-about-nikolas-cruz/
Published: Feb 18, 2018
Author: Alex Thomas
Post Date: 2018-02-18 15:26:03 by Hondo68
Keywords: Big Stupid Government, multi-system failure, FBI Wray resign
Views: 1274
Comments: 23

In another disturbing development, a new report shows that a Florida child services agency knew about Nikolas Cruz and even investigated him.

The Florida Department of Children and Families was tipped off about Cruz after he cut his arms on a Snapchat video and indicated that he planned to buy a gun, according to the Sun-Sentinel. The department even visited Cruz and questioned him before eventually determining that he “was at a low risk of harming himself or others.”

It’s unclear how the investigation began, as the state’s report does not say who called in the tip, but the agents visited Cruz in November 2016–a few months before his mother died. At that time, Cruz was undergoing mental health counseling. His mother told investigators that Cruz’s depression was a result of a breakup with a girl “who was cheating on him.”

The new information is the latest in a string of reports showing that Cruz was in the eyes of law enforcement before he opened fire at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on Valentine’s Day, leaving 17 people dead. The rifle that Cruz used in the massacre, a Smith & Wesson M&P 15, was legally purchased from a gun shop less than eight miles away from the high school.

A Broward County public defender who is representing Cruz was blunt in his assessment, saying, “This kid exhibited every single known red flag, from cutting animals to having a cache of weapons to disruptive behavior to saying he wanted to be a school shooter. If this isn’t a person who should have gotten someone’s attention, I don’t know who is. This was a multi-system failure.”

On Friday, the FBI admitted that they were tipped off about Cruz but that “established protocols” weren’t followed. Director Christopher Wray said he is “committed to getting to the bottom of what happened in this particular matter, as well as reviewing our processes for responding to information that we receive from the public.” But that wasn’t enough for Florida Governor Rick Scott, who called on Wray to resign.

Nikolas Cruz, school shooting, Parkland, Florida
(Broward County Jail via AP)


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School shooter’s brother committed to mental facility (2 days after Ash Wednesday Massacre)

The younger brother of deranged school shooter Nikolas Cruz was committed to a mental health facility, according to reports.

Authorities removed someone Friday from the home of Rocxanne Deschamps, a longtime family friend of the Cruz brothers who took them in after their adoptive mother died of pneumonia in November, The Palm Beach Post reported.

A friend of Deschamps confirmed Zachary Cruz, who turns 18 next week, was the person removed from the home.

The younger Cruz brother was involuntarily committed under Florida’s Baker Act, under which he can be held involuntarily for up to 12 hours for an involuntary psychiatric exam. It’s unclear if he’s been released.

Nikolas Cruz left Deschamps’ Lantana, FL mobile home around Thanksgiving after he and Deschamps squared off over a gun.

“He bought a gun and wanted to bring it into my house,” she said in comments that have since been wiped from her Facebook page, the paper reported.

Chad Bennett, a family friend, said Deschamps gave Cruz an ultimatum and Cruz “chose the gun and he left.” He moved in with family in northern Broward county, a Cruz family lawyer told the newspaper.

The Palm Beach Post said it was not known if the gun Cruz brought to the Deschamps home was the AR-15 semi-automatic rifle Cruz used to kill 17 people in Wednesday’s mass shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, FL.(1 image)

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

School shooter’s brother committed to mental facility (2 days after Ash Wednesday Massacre)

I usually feel sorry for the family and friends of these shooters. They suffer quite a bit as a result of something they had no control over.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-18   16:58:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative, Deckard, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#1)

I usually feel sorry for the family and friends of these shooters. They suffer quite a bit as a result of something they had no control over.

The brother may very well be getting a bad rap. They'll probably pump him full of psycho drugs anyway.

It brings to mind "corruption of blood" which is in the Constitution.


Article III, Section 3, Clause 2

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-02-18   17:43:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68, tpaine, A K A Stone (#2) (Edited)

but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood

Nice catch and quote. This situation is no exact parallel to that quote but I do see why you quoted it.

I'd say you win the trophy for "Obscure Constitutional Quote Of The Day" category. Or you would if we had glamorous trophies for such things at LF.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-18   17:55:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)

On Friday, the FBI admitted that they were tipped off about Cruz but that “established protocols” weren’t followed.

WTH is going on from Feeb "leadership"?? Are we supposed to again look the other way as in the Las Vegas Slaughter?

Its policy clearly appears to purposely be sloppy, purposely negligent, and purposely NOT doing its work.

Not only that, but the Feeb post-incident investigations constantly come up empty, perp Social Media profiles are routinely scrubbed and hidden. This as the MSM always but ALWAYS report FAKE info about the typical shooter profile that portray shooters as "Right-Wing."

Coordinated effort, MO, and agenda?

WHY was this specific Florida incident enabled? WHO is responsible for sandbagging the notification that this perp was specifically planned to gun down "high school" kids? And WHO hired him/her/them? What is THEIR political affiliation?

Feeb honcho Wray admits the case was ignored -- but ONLY because it was widely reported by a vlogger himself that Cruz' intent AND name was reported directly to the FBI.

Speculation will naturally be of worst-case scenario.

IS this "Let-the-Slaughters-Take-Place an org-wide policy goal to make Trump look bad?? To make conservatives and 2A proponents look bad? To make Gun-Rights advocates be scapegoats for these types of slaughters?

If one were doing the math, there seems to be an ongoing policy of ENABLING mass gun-shootings/terrorism (it IS "terrorism") FOR PURELY POLITICAL REASONS and an agenda: A Disarm-the Public, anti-Constitution, anti-2A UN-advocated Gun-Grab...

....Looks like they will continue to let these incidents slide UNTIL enough pressure is put on Congress to kill the 2A. UNTIL someone gets to the bottom of this filthy agenda.

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-18   18:22:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Liberator, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#4)

seems to be an ongoing policy of ENABLING mass gun-shootings/terrorism (it IS "terrorism") FOR PURELY POLITICAL REASONS and an agenda: A Disarm-the Public, anti-Constitution, anti-2A UN-advocated Gun-Grab...

I wouldn't rule any of that out, but one constant motive over the long haul is to preserve, protect, and expand the big nanny gov Deep State. It's a good 'ol boy club out to protect their jobs and pensions. and anything beyond that is just gravy, graft, and corruption for hire.

There's zero incentive for reform as long as the pre-selected D&R numbnut puppet candidates keep getting elected. Any good candidate that comes along will be slimmed, ignored, and not make it onto the ballot, like Ron Paul for instance. D&R approved candidates will get 24/7/365 media coverage like Trump did for one year solid before the election. But they said mean stuff! And he got lots of free publicity, and was elected president.

But, the media whores tell us that their picks are the only ones that can get elected. You MUST ignore all third party, independent, and patriotic American candidates or... HILLARY will get elected !!!

It's a con game and the voting suckers fall for it every time. Land of the sheeple, home of the slave is what the public demands.

/pessimistic rant

Hondo68  posted on  2018-02-18   19:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: hondo68 (#5)

There's zero incentive for reform as long as the pre-selected D&R numbnut puppet candidates keep getting elected.

Please start a topic concept, "Romney" or sumthin' to deal with this total jerk in the Republican party.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-02-18   19:19:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#0)

All this bullshit talk and crying over the sometimes served shit sandwich of life. All I wanna know or read about IS THIS... when are they gonna draw and quarter this sick demented fuck stain, publicly for all adolescent snowflake future school shooters to see?

Yeah, they say he's mentally ill. I say, who gives a shit. To Wit; HE KILLED 17 Americans. Kill him. Nothing justifies keeping this pile of shit alive. Then send his family the execution bill.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-18   19:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GrandIsland (#7)

Yeah, they say he's mentally ill. I say, who gives a shit. To Wit; HE KILLED 17 Americans. Kill him. Nothing justifies keeping this pile of shit alive. Then send his family the execution bill.

We want to understand the objective facts given all investigative evidence before placing him into seeing the Big Chief in the Sky. Ya gotta problem wid dat idea, Offither?

buckeroo  posted on  2018-02-18   19:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo, Masshole Mitt, Utah immigrant, Gatlin, A K A Stone (#6) (Edited)

Please start a topic concept, "Romney" or sumthin' to deal with this total jerk in the Republican party.
The ex-governor and loser Willard Romney was ready to announce his candidacy for US Senator to Utah, and then the Ash Wednesday Massacre happened, and he decided to postpone the launch until Thursday. Is he a GREAT American, or what? Such sacrifice!

Mitt has finally gotten the skid marks from the 2012 election. washed out of his Moms Jeans and is raring to go as the immigrant US Senator to Utah!

http://theunion4ever.com/various-lunatics/william-tapley/

Hopefully these catchy tunes will help, to put the Mittens campaign where it belongs, on the ash-heap of history.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-02-18   21:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GrandIsland (#7)

Yeah, they say he's mentally ill. I say, who gives a shit. To Wit; HE KILLED 17 Americans. Kill him. Nothing justifies keeping this pile of shit alive.

I'm with ya on that one.

Then send his family the execution bill.

He has no family. His parents died a year or two ago,and he went to live in foster care when he bothered to stay there.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-18   21:43:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#8)

We want to understand the objective facts given all investigative evidence before placing him into seeing the Big Chief in the Sky.

We have all the facts. The major one being he committed multiple cold-blooded murders of minors,and has admitted to doing this.

How much more do you want?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-18   21:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete (#11)

How much more do you want?

I want to investigate the bastard's life history beyond your belief in government capability.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-02-18   21:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo (#12)

I want to investigate the bastard's life history beyond your belief in government capability.

Then YOU pay his incarceration and legal fees.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-18   21:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: GrandIsland (#13)

Then YOU pay his incarceration and legal fees.

I shall not ... as I have a difficult of payinf taxes while America is rotten to the core.

There must be a reason why young people take guns in such a serious way as to denounce our individual rights and liberties.

Can you consider such a thought?

buckeroo  posted on  2018-02-18   22:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: GrandIsland, Mk ULTRA mitt, buckeroo (#13)

Then YOU pay his incarceration and legal fees.

It's an amazing coincidence that Mitt Romney's campaign launch for US Senator to Utah coincides with this this psycho's killing spree. The gun grabbing former Masshole Governor Willard Romney is the prime suspect as "handler" for this orphan yute, in my book.

I encourage Bucky to pursue a Belizeian stye investigation of Masshole Mitt and his protege Nikolas Cruz. What does Mittens know, and when did he know it?

Moms Jeans Mitt, the handler

Hondo68  posted on  2018-02-18   22:31:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: hondo68 (#15)

How long are you libs gonna keep shitting yourselves over GW and Romney?

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-18   23:22:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeroo (#14)

There must be a reason why young people take guns in such a serious way as to denounce our individual rights and liberties.

Yeah, it's because he is CRAZIER THAN A SHITHOUSE RAT. He's a whack-job, a fruit loop... a mental case. We will always have them. These killings will never stop... its part of LIFE. We, as a free populace have two choices. One, cry every time this happens and pass laws that reduce freedoms but don't work, just so you don't cry no more... or suck it the fuck up and go have a nice steak dinner and a beer, make a toast to all the kids that didn't die.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-18   23:29:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: GrandIsland, libtard (#17)

... or suck it the fuck up and go have a nice steak dinner and a beer, make a toast to all the kids that didn't die.

How about the teacher pulls out a hog leg as blows the ahole away? Why you gotta cry in your steak & beer instead?

That ain't gonna help at all.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-02-18   23:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: hondo68 (#18)

I have no problem with a "teacher" using a gun to seek and destroy an active shooter. In fact, I encourage it. Problem is, teachers are predominantly LIBTARDED. They learned snowflakery, from their college professors.

I think any teacher that wants to carry, should be able to... and every school should have an armed resource officer, every minute that school is open for business.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-19   1:27:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: buckeroo (#12)

I want to investigate the bastard's life history beyond your belief in government capability.

Ahhhhh,so you suspect it is a conspiracy,and he was being mind-controlled by the aliens from Alpha Centuri that are disguised as gubbermint employees?

Guess what? I don't care. I still want him put down. I'll let you lose sleep over worrying about the conspiracy angles.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-19   8:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#15)

Then YOU pay his incarceration and legal fees.

It's an amazing coincidence that Mitt Romney's campaign launch for US Senator to Utah coincides with this this psycho's killing spree. The gun grabbing former Masshole Governor Willard Romney is the prime suspect as "handler" for this orphan yute, in my book.

I was smiling because I thought you were being sarcastic.

Then I realized you mean it.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-19   8:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: hondo68 (#15)

The gun grabbing former Masshole Governor Willard Romney is the prime suspect as "handler" for this orphan yute, in my book.

Yeah. Mittens has nothing better to do than mind-control a mindless inbred inhead.

Speaking of pinheads,your mind is clearly in need of a trip to the service department if you can't understand why what you wrote is so ridiculous.

Yes,there ARE conspiracies afloat in the world.

No,not everything that happens that you don't approve of is a part of a conspiracy.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-19   9:00:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: hondo68 (#9)

http://theunion4ever.com/various-lunatics/william-tapley/

Old crackpot spends his retirement years writing bad music for pols.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-19   10:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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