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Title: Innocent 84yo Grandmother Assaulted by Police as They Did a Welfare Check on Her Neighbor
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Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/in ... welfare-check-on-her-neighbor/
Published: Feb 17, 2018
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2018-02-17 09:56:36 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 465
Comments: 24
Mesa, AZ — A family has just learned the hard way what calling police to help a relative can often look like as their grandmother is now in the hospital after a welfare check. Showing their incompetence, the welfare check was for another family member but the police assaulted the innocent grandmother anyway. Ashlee Hahn detailed the alleged assault in a dramatic Facebook post which showed the extent of her grandmother’s injuries. Hahn’s grandmother was hurt so bad during the check that she had to be hospitalized. According to Hahn, her grandmother “is recovering from her fourth stroke and is confused, cognitively impaired & barely physically able to stand on her own because of uncontrollable shaking.” Hahn’s mother had called in a welfare check for a different family member who lived on her grandmother’s property. Police were even given specific instructions not to disturb the 84-year-old. “The police were called to her residence for a wellness check for a close family member who lives on her property,” explained Hahn. “They were specifically asked not to bother or question my grandmother because of her present and very fragile state.” In spite of telling them to steer clear, however, police did the exact opposite. “They forced her out of her home into the street, holding her arms tight enough to leave bruises and bleeding,” wrote Hahn. “Her inability to hold still (because of her previous strokes, as seen in uploaded videos) inclined them to slam her down, head first on the asphalt. They handcuffed her after she woke from her unconscious state.” When Hahn’s grandmother woke up, she was in the hospital, bloodied and bruised. Police then immediately began conducting damage control. “After seeing the damage they had done & sending my Grandmother off in an ambulance, they called my Mother (who made the original wellness check call) and told her that my Grandmother “slipped,” Hahn explained. To try and alleviate their liability, an officer was sent, not to check on an elderly grandmother who’d just been the subject of a savage attack, but, instead, to defend their fellow cop and his choice to inflict harm on an innocent old lady. “The officer who came down to the hospital only seemed to care about deflecting & defending the officers involved. No accountability. No apologies,” Hahn wrote. What’s more, to try to legitimize the attack on an innocent grandmother, police then charged her with obstruction. Hahn filmed part of the interaction with the officer in the hospital as he defended his fellow cop’s decision to needlessly confront her (against the family’s wishes) and then violently throw her to the ground. “Why did he put me down on the asphalt?” asked the innocent elderly woman. “It is my understanding when I spoke to the officer, that you pulled away from him a little bit and he took action like that, okay?” the officer callously explains of how his fellow officer could somehow rationalize assaulting an innocent grandmother. Pulling away from an officer “a little bit” in the land of the free will now apparently result in innocent elderly women being thrown to the ground. “I said don’t treat me like this. I don’t want to have a stroke,” the innocent grandmother says as she shakes in her hospital bed. “I don’t want to have a heart attack. Don’t treat me this way.” But he did and now an innocent elderly woman is facing charges because of some arrogant cop who thinks his authority grants him permission to abuse grandmothers. According to Hahn, her grandmother is “traumatized & feels untrusting of the people who she thought would protect her.” Hahn has a message for the Mesa Police Department as well. “If this was your grandmother, what would you do? Mesa police department needs to be held accountable.” Indeed, they do.
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#1. To: All (#0)
Gee man, she does look pretty tuff. I guess when she stepped outside, the hero's were in " fear for their lives " !!! /SARC !!!! Geeze man, when is this kinda shit going to end ??? Lets see who here is going to be the first to come out to defend these " hero's " ??? When this old woman files here lawsuit, I would LOVE to be on the Jury !!! Seems like the Mesa Police Dept needs a real good houscleaning!!! Bunch of wimps !!! Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)
Nice looking adult granddaughter. She called the pigs on her brother??? Not enough details to figure this one out.
From TFTP: From local sources:
You're about the same age as this grandmother who was manhandled and injured by these over-zealous cops, aren't you Parsons? It's interesting that you praise these sadistic thugs for brutally taking down a confused old woman and then having the unmitigated gall to charge her for a crime. It's interesting - but not surprising. Your unfettered worship of cops and your submissive authority fetish for anyone wearing a badge is well documented on this site. “The police were called to her residence for a wellness check for a close family member who lives on her property,” explained Hahn. “They were specifically asked not to bother or question my grandmother because of her present and very fragile state.” In spite of telling them to steer clear, however, police did the exact opposite. That’s bullshit. Since the man was reported to be suicidal, he could easily have taken granny with him. The police were not going to leave granny in the house with a suicidal man.
I did not praise the cops...I just showed that your TFTP article was another damned lie.
The granddaughter and her mother should NEVER have left granny alone in her condition. It was selfishly inconsiderate of them....SAD.
Piss off badge-licker.
Both Hahn and her mother ought to have their asses kicked to “kingdom come” and back for leaving granny alone while granny is, as Hahn stated: “recovering from her fourth stroke and is confused, cognitively impaired & barely physically able to stand on her own because of uncontrollable shaking.” And living with a psycho on her property.
“The police were called to her residence for a wellness check ... From local sources: The Mesa police received an “emergency call for service on February 14, 2018, in Mesa reference a suicidal subject with a gun.” [There was NO wellness check call]. Thanks for the time you put in to exposing DickTards yella bullshit. Excellent post. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
She'll win an out of court settlement... she was hurt when officers pulled her to the ground for her safety. Old people bruise, bleed and injure easy. However, it's shit like this that's removed every shred of empathy I ever had for the human race. I'd have let the bitch get shot and left her standing there. I'd rather get sued for not INTENTIONALLY HELPING HER than sued for helping her and hurting her. Fuck her and her dysfunctional suicidal fucked up scumbag family. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Yeah right - THAT'S what they did. More likely they "feared for their lives" from a helpless old lady. As part of a year-long investigation of fatal shootings by police, The Washington Post examined the cases of 59 officers who were charged over the past decade for fatally shooting someone while on duty, allegedly crossing the line between enforcing the law and breaking it. In criminal court, 11 of the officers were convicted and served time. But when 46 families of those shot and killed by police sought justice in the civil system, 32 received monetary awards, The Post found. Settlements ranged from $7,500 to $8.5 million. The median settlement was $1.2 million. Seven families have not filed suit. When officers were criminally convicted, families won settlements in all but one case, The Post found. But when the officers were acquitted or had criminal charges dismissed, families were just as likely to win civil settlements. The review also found that families collected more money if they settled before the criminal cases were resolved. When families accepted settlements before criminal charges were resolved, they received a median award of $2.2 million. When the settlement came after criminal proceedings ended, the families received $500,000. Civil settlements and awards in police shootings Many families who sue over a wrongful fatal police shooting win awards, with a median value of $1.2 million. 010Over $1 million18 civil suits$100,000 to $1M8Less than $100,0004Undisclosed amount1None2Pending12 Note: Amounts include awards arising from settlements as well as from civil court rulings. Most of the settlements are between families and the officers’ employer. Going after the officer rarely pays off. Many lawyers don’t bother to sue the officer who pulled the trigger. As civil servants, they tend to have few assets. And if you don’t sue them, “you prevent the officer and the officer’s wife from making an emotional appeal to the jury,” said Michael Napier, a lawyer in Phoenix who for four decades has represented police officers, including Chrisman in the Rodriguez case. Instead, suits are typically filed against the city or county or state that employed the officer, usually under a federal civil rights statute first enacted in 1871 to combat the Ku Klux Klan. But winning such lawsuits is difficult. The laws strongly favor police, requiring families to prove that officers acted “unreasonably” or that their departments acted with “deliberate indifference.” “If you don’t have a good case, you’re doing people more harm than good,” said Michael Avery, founder and director of the National Police Accountability Project, a network of civil rights lawyers who handle police abuse cases. Every lawsuit is “a mine field. There are a hundred mines in the field, and we have to get across without tripping any one of them. If we trip one, we lose.” Even when families collect settlements, victory can feel hollow. Tarika Wilson, a 26- year-old Ohio woman, was unarmed and holding her 14-month-old boy when she was killed during a SWAT raid on her home in 2008. The sergeant in the case was acquitted of homicide and assault charges; the city of Lima settled with the family for $2.5 million. “It’s very hard on the families,” said Cheryl R. Washington, an attorney who represented Wilson’s family. “The settlements are based on the monetary value of that person’s life. What did that person do? What would they have done if they weren’t killed? . . . Her children lost their mother, and the amount of money in a case like this is never enough.” I believe more cities should fight back in civil lawsuits instead of making massive out of court settlements. Lawsuits against the police can be won like happened in the Salt Lake City case where a a jury rejected a claim in a lawsuit that a Morgan County sheriff’s officer used excessive force when he shot a woman in the left eye at the end of a 2012 police chase. After deliberating for about an hour at the conclusion of a five-day trial in Farmington’s 2nd District Court, jurors returned a unanimous verdict on Oct. 27 that found Sgt. Daniel Peay did not violate the constitutional rights of Kristine Biggs Johnson. “We are pleased with the verdict and appreciated the diligence of the jury and the court,” said attorney Julia Kyte, who with attorney Jeffrey Bramble represented Peay. “Sergeant Peay is an excellent officer and we believe the correct result was reached in this case.”
Yeah right - THAT'S what they did.
Something tells me "Granny" was ornery to begin with. Many older people -- old biddies in particular -- do seem to have major hostility problems with the world. (seen at FR.) Dunno if it's a bitterness about chronic pain, life-resentments, past husband abuse , hating men in general, etc, but the stereotype is true for good reason. Thorazine is said to help. ;-)
If a non-cop treated an old woman like this - it would be assault. Wow. You actually made a good point.
That's pretty much an admission of guilt by the cops. After all - if they didn't do anything wrong, why make the payouts to the families? "if"...."If"...."if"...."if"....
They should not when an officer is acquitted in a criminal trial.
They should not when an officer is acquitted in a criminal trial. Yet by paying out money in those cases, they are tacitly admitting guilt. Don’t try to “spin” it by adding the word “tacitly.” Are out of court settlements seen as 'admission of guilt'? The answer is: Legally, NO. In fact the court rules and rules of evidence encourage parties to settle matters whenever possible, and neither offers of settlement nor actual settlements themselves are admissible as evidence of guilt or wrongdoing. You lose....AGAIN.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#2. To: Deckard (#1)
#3. To: Deckard (#1)
#4. To: All, Deckard (#0)
Since this is a local story that I am familiar with through local news reporting, please allow me to be the first to come out and say this is just another bullshit cop-hating story from The Freethought Project. One that Deckard is most duplicitous in with his deliberate deceptiveness to advance this cop-hating yellow journalism by posting this click-bait trash on LF. “The police were called to her residence for a wellness check ...
From local sources: The Mesa police received an “emergency call for service on February 14, 2018, in Mesa reference a suicidal subject with a gun.” [There was NO wellness check call].
From TFTP: ... for a close family member who lives on her property,”
There was no mention that the [“suicidal”] man was “a close family member.” Officers were told the subject in question was a male and he was in a vehicle in front of the residence. Upon arrival officers observed a male matching the description provided exiting the described vehicle and going toward the residence where they lost visual sight of him.
From TFTP: “They forced her out of her home into the street, holding her arms tight enough to leave bruises and bleeding,” wrote Hahn.
From local sources: Officers made verbal announcements toward the residence when an elderly female came to the door and stepped out. The female complied with the officers’ commands to walk toward them.
From TFTP: “Her inability to hold still (because of her previous strokes, as seen in uploaded videos) inclined them to slam her down, head first on the asphalt. They handcuffed her after she woke from her unconscious state.”
From local sources: Once she was near them, she appeared to show confusion and attempted to return to the residence. In order to keep her out of harm’s way, she was restrained and injured as a result of having to be restrained while struggling with them. [Remember the suicidal man was still somewhere in the house] Officers summoned medical attention immediately and she was transported to a local hospital. [There was no mention of handcuffing].
From local sources: The male subject, who shares the property with her, was subsequently located and the scene was secured. Based on his statements, electronic communications with family, and the totality of circumstances, he was transported for evaluation.
From TFTP: According to Hahn, her grandmother “is recovering from her fourth stroke and is confused, cognitively impaired & barely physically able to stand on her own because of uncontrollable shaking.”
From TFTP: Hahn has a message for the Mesa Police Department as well.
Both Hahn and her mother ought to have their asses kicked to “kingdom come” and back for leaving granny alone while granny is, as Hahn stated: “recovering from her fourth stroke and is confused, cognitively impaired & barely physically able to stand on her own because of uncontrollable shaking.” And living with a psycho on her property.
“If this was your grandmother, what would you do? Mesa police department needs to be held accountable.”
#5. To: Gatlin (#4)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#6. To: Gatlin (#4)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#7. To: Deckard (#6)
#8. To: Deckard (#5)
#9. To: Deckard (#6)
“They were specifically asked not to bother or question my grandmother because of her present and very fragile state.”
To ask that the police not bother your granny and not get her out of the house where a suicidal man is....shows the ignorance this granddaughter had.
#10. To: Gatlin (#9)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#11. To: Deckard (#10)
#12. To: Gatlin (#4)
Since this is a local story that I am familiar with through local news reporting, please allow me to be the first to come out and say this is just another bullshit cop-hating story from The Freethought Project. One that Deckard is most duplicitous in with his deliberate deceptiveness to advance this cop-hating yellow journalism by posting this click-bait trash on LF. From TFTP:
#13. To: Stoner (#2)
When this old woman files here lawsuit, I would LOVE to be on the Jury !!!
#14. To: GrandIsland (#13)
officers pulled her to the ground for her safety
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#15. To: GrandIsland, All (#13)
She'll win an out of court settlement...
#16. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#14)
... officers pulled her to the ground for her safety
You are so stupid and lack the intelligent quickness of mind to stop your groveling and acting in an obsequious manner. You are at a point where you need to realize that you have lost in your unsuccessful attempt to cast dispersion on these police officers.
More likely they "feared for their lives" from a helpless old lady.
#17. To: GrandIsland (#13)
(Edited)
#18. To: Gatlin (#16)
to cast dispersion on these police officers.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#19. To: Gatlin (#11)
Both Hahn and her mother ought to have their asses kicked to “kingdom come” and back for leaving granny alone while granny is, as Hahn stated: “recovering from her fourth stroke and is confused, cognitively impaired & barely physically able to stand on her own because of uncontrollable shaking.” And living with a psycho on her property.
#20. To: Gatlin (#15)
But when the officers were acquitted or had criminal charges dismissed, families were just as likely to win civil settlements.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#21. To: Deckard (#18)
If ...
#22. To: Deckard (#20)
After all - if they didn't do anything wrong, why make the payouts to the families?
#23. To: Gatlin (#22)
After all - if they didn't do anything wrong, why make the payouts to the families?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#24. To: Deckard (#23)
Yet by paying out money in those cases, they are tacitly admitting guilt.
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