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Title: Nazi Germany’s (and America’s) Drug War
Source:
Future of Freedom Foundation
URL Source: https://www.fff.org/2017/04/04/nazi-germanys-americas-drug-war/
Published: Apr 4, 2017
Author: Jacob G. Hornberger,
Post Date: 2018-02-16 08:52:40 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 550
Comments: 9
In reading an interesting review of a book entitled “Hitler’s Little Helper” in last Sunday’s New York Times, I was struck by the following sentence, “Ohler documents the persistent intertwining of anti-Semitic rhetoric with the Nazis’ war on drugs, the laws passed in 1933 that threatened addicts with imprisonment and sterilization, and the encouragement to neighbors and co-workers to denounce habitual users — especially of cocaine and morphine — to the police.” I suppose I wasn’t too surprised to read that Nazi Germany had drug laws too but, quite honestly, I had never given the matter much thought. After all, when we think about Nazi Germany, ordinarily we think of things like Kristallnacht, the Holocaust, the Gestapo, and World War II. Most people don’t think about other aspects of the Nazi system, such as Social Security, national healthcare, public schooling, the Autobahn system, the military-industrial complex, economic regulations, and — yes — drug laws. That’s not to say, of course, that anything and everything that Nazi Germany did should automatically be considered bad. But let’s face it: When it comes to tyranny, Nazi Germany is considered to be the gold standard. Therefore, it seems to be that anything the gold standard in tyranny does should, at the very least, receive a rebuttable presumption of being bad. Most everyone is familiar with the concept of a police state. It describes a political system in which the activities of the citizenry are close monitored and controlled by the political authorities. Anyone who gets out of line is dealt with harshly and brutally. People are expected to carry their identification papers with them and display them to the police on command. To help ensure security, people are encouraged to snitch on their family, friends, neighbors, and strangers who are thought to be engaged in suspicious behavior. A police state was what Nazi Germany was. That is what the Gestapo and its super-secret surveillance system were all about. So was the Soviet Union. The KGB comes to mind. So is China today. So are Cuba, North Korea, and Vietnam. By the way, all those countries have drug laws too. And secret surveillance over the citizenry. And snitches. And harsh penalties for deviation. Some interesting questions arise: What is the price that a society must pay to get rid of drug usage or drug addiction? If the price is the installation of a police state, is it worth it? If a police state succeeds in eradicating drug use and drug addiction from society, will the police state then be dismantled or will it instead be made a permanent part of the system to ensure that drug usage and drug addiction don’t make a comeback? Communist China today is a very real police state. People’s activities are tightly monitored and controlled. Any deviation from the established norm is severely punished. Everyone is required to submit to a state-controlled education from the first grade on up. Nonetheless, there is still a drug problem, which is why the authorities have drug laws. If there is still a drug problem in a big police state like Red China, how much greater a police state would be needed to rid Chinese society of its drug problem? Is that the road the United States should take too to win the war on drugs? Or another way to put it is, Can the drug war be won here in the United States without turning the country into a police state, like the one in China (especially when combined with the immigration war and the war on terrorism)? Look at what is happening in the Philippines, where the president of that country is waging the war on drugs in the same manner that President Trump (and his predecessors) wages the war on terrorism. President Duterte has his police force, military, and secret death squads going out and killing people who are suspected of violating the nation’s drug laws. No arrests, indictments, due process, trial by jury, or other legal procedures that some people call “technicalities.” Just swift “justice,” both for drug suppliers and drug consumers. Interestingly enough, despite all these measures, which can only described as tyrannical, there is still a drug problem in the Philippines. When the United States was founded, one of the things that made Americans proud was that their political and economic systems were totally different from regimes in Europe, Asia, and other parts of the world. What mattered to our ancestors was freedom, not the false sense of security that comes with police states, welfare states, and overgrown military and intelligence establishments. That’s why Americans lived without drug laws for more than a century (and without income taxation, economic regulations, Social Security, Medicare, public schooling, central bank, paper money, immigration controls, Pentagon, enormous standing army, CIA, NSA, and national-security state). Too bad later Americans moved in an opposite direction, including the adoption of drug laws, just like those in Nazi Germany.
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#1. To: Deckard, A K A Stone (#0)
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Deckard, I know that you didn’t write this article, but do you personally believe “America is a Nazi Germany?” And will you please tell me why you find this article is newsworthy or informative enough to be posted on LF? Is there no LIMIT to your OBSESSION?
Well, let's agree that threatening addicts with imprisonment and sterilization, and encouraging neighbors and co-workers to denounce habitual users to the police is tyrannical and presumed bad. Now, when America starts doing that, you may use the word "tyrannical" to describe it.
Well, it's only been one year. "Thanks to his campaign, government officials say, crime has dropped, thousands of drug dealers are behind bars, a million users have registered for treatment, and future generations of Filipinos are being protected from the scourge of drugs." "There are thousands of people who are being killed, yes,” said Oscar Albayalde, Metro Manila’s police chief told Reuters. “But there are millions who live, see?”
The Nazis had the Autobahn. That means our highways are evil and hate Jews. We really need to dismantle our highways. They are nothing more than a Nazi scam to glorify Hitler.
No it was liberty. Not anarchy.
If there is still a drug problem in a big police state like Red China, how much greater a police state would be needed to rid Chinese society of its drug problem? Is that the road the United States should take too to win the war on drugs? Or another way to put it is, Can the drug war be won here in the United States without turning the country into a police state, like the one in China (especially when combined with the immigration war and the war on terrorism)? And our space program.
First, you have to define "winning". As with all other crimes, illegal drug use will never be zero and it is unrealistic to expect that. So pick a drug, pick a percentage, and declare victory when that percentage is met. For example, current marijuana use is around 10%. If that is a number everyone can live with, then that's the goal. But, prior to decriminalization, legalization and medical exemptions by the states, marijuana use was at 6%. If people prefer that level of use then those laws need to be changed.
First of all, the country is not “Red China.” It has been the “People's Republic of China (PRC)” since 1949. And secondly, with as great a police force as the PRC has....if it wanted to stop its drug problem, it indeed could. A larger police force is not needed in China, the draconian law enforcement needs to stop with the political connections to the drug dealers and start doing its job. The drug traffickers are politically connected and are thusly protected. The drug dealers are alerted a few months ahead of a crackdown. That the police usually don’t touch them explains why for years “Beijing residents have wondered how dealers were able to sell their wares so openly near a police station in the Sanlitun district, home to many embassies, bars, and restaurants popular with expatriates.” Slowly things are changing to get results. The recent eye-popping statistics from the Ministry of Public Security appear intended to impress: In a five-month crackdown, the police were said to have “totally uncovered” 50,827 drug cases, arrested 56,989 suspects and seized 26.5 tons of drugs, an increase in seizures of 126.8 percent over the same period a year earlier. In an interview, one Beijing dealer said things were changing. “Before, because of our connections, we would always be alerted a few months ahead of a crackdown,” said the dealer, who asked not to be identified.
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
"Therefore, it seems to be that anything the gold standard in tyranny does should, at the very least, receive a rebuttable presumption of being bad."
#3. To: Deckard (#0)
Interestingly enough, despite all these measures, which can only described as tyrannical, there is still a drug problem in the Philippines.
#4. To: Deckard (#0)
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#5. To: Deckard (#0)
What mattered to our ancestors was freedom,
#6. To: Gatlin, misterwhite, A K A Stone (#1)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#7. To: A K A Stone (#4)
We really need to dismantle our highways.
#8. To: Deckard (#6)
"Can the drug war be won here in the United States without turning the country into a police state, like the one in China?"
#9. To: Deckard (#6)
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If there is still a drug problem in a big police state like Red China, how much greater a police state would be needed to rid Chinese society of its drug problem?
Drug users in China say the police operate in a bureaucracy programmed to follow orders from above. In some cities, the police allow dealers to operate undisturbed — until they need to fill a quota, according to He Mukun, a former addict and drug counselor in Yunnan. Mr. He said the police in Yunan rarely arrested drug dealers, preferring to use them as informants during crackdowns. “The police think, ‘In the future, when my boss gives me an assignment to catch drug users, what happens if I can’t find any?’ ” he said. “But if a cop knows a drug seller, he can just ask for a bunch of names. You get huge numbers that way.” 1
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