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Title: In 3 Years, Cops Have Killed 450% More Citizens Than 4 Decades of Mass Shootings COMBINED
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FromThe Trenches/FTP
URL Source: http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.c ... mass-shootings-combined/218819
Published: Feb 15, 2018
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2018-02-16 05:24:15 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 1564
Comments: 19
A tragedy in Florida unfolded Wednesday afternoon when a psychotic former student terrorized a high school and the nation as he walked into the school and began shooting and killing students. The terrorist shooter killed 17 people. It is no surprise that the hashtag #GunReformNow is already trending on Twitter as politicians and advocacy groups alike—like every time before—begin milking this tragedy for their political agenda. Sadly, most people who call for gun control to realize what that actually means—only the government has the guns. Every time a lunatic, who is usually on some form mind-altering pharmaceutical, goes on a shooting rampage, the do-gooders in Washington, with the aid of their citizen flocks, take to the TV and the internet to call for disarming the American people. The citizens who call for themselves and their neighbors to be disarmed, likely think no deeper than the shallow speeches given by the political blowhards, designed to appeal to emotion only. They do not think of what happens during and after the government attempts to remove guns from society. They also completely ignore the fact that criminals do not obey laws and making guns illegal would have zero effect on criminals possessing guns. In the perfect statist world in which only the government has guns, we’re told that crime rates would plummet, people wouldn’t be murdered, gun violence would be brought to its knees, and a disarmed heaven on Earth would ensue. But how effective would disarming the citizens actually be at preventing gun violence, while at the same time keeping guns in the hands of government? One simple way to determine the outcome would be to compare mass shootings in America with those killed by police. It is entirely too easy to compare all senseless murders carried out by the state to those carried out by citizens, so we will zoom in with a microscope. However, just as a point of reference, in the 20th Century alone, governments were responsible for 260,000,000 deaths worldwide. That number is greater than all deaths from illicit drug use, STD’s, Homicides, and Traffic Accidents — combined. Now, on to the micro-comparison. According to a comprehensive database of all American mass shootings that have taken place since 1982, constructed by Mother Jones, there have been exactly 816 deaths attributed to mass shootings that have taken place on American soil. As Mother Jones notes, in their database, they exclude shootings stemming from more conventional crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. Other news outlets and researchers have published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings may be useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at the distinct phenomenon of mass shootings—from the firearms used to mental health factors and the growing copycat problem. If we were to compare the 816 citizens killed in mass shootings to citizens killed by police in the same time frame, the comparison would be off the charts. So, for the sake of simplicity, we will compare all of the mass shooting deaths in the last 35 years, to the number of citizens killed by police since the beginning of last year. Already, in 2018, American police have killed 153 people. When we add that to 1,189 people killed by police in 2017, that number is 1,342. This number is set to increase by one, on average, every 8 hours. When comparing the total number of mass shootings over the last 35 years to just the last 14 months of police killings the ratio is 1.6 to 1, citizens killed by cops vs. citizens killed in mass shootings. That is a massive difference. The comparison is staggering and should shock the conscience. But to truly get a perspective, lets go back three years and compare all of the citizens killed by cops since the beginning of 2015 to the number of mass shooting deaths. Since 2015, cops in America have killed 3,733 citizens. In a time period that is less than one-tenth the amount of time it took mass shooters to kill 816 people, cops have killed nearly 5 times as many citizens. As the blowhards spew their nonsense about grabbing guns from law-abiding citizens and those in government demand action, all of these people conveniently ignore the giant pink elephant in the living room — cops in America are killing citizens at an alarming rate! Ironically enough, those calling for taking guns from citizens are often times the ones most critical of police killings. How, exactly, they rationalize disarming the citizens and having only police, who kill far more people than gun owners, be the sole possessors of guns, is a mystery. Indeed, Radley Balko sums up the mental gymnastics of both parties perfectly in regard to the distorted realities held as “truth.” Radley Balko@radleybalko Blue: "The government has a history of racism and oppression. Guns are instruments of death. Only government employees should have guns." In the United States, the overall homicide rate is 4.9 per 100,000 among the citizens. Thanks to independent watchdog groups like KilledByPolice.net, we have a total number of citizens killed by police. As noted above, last year, police killed 1,189 citizens. Given that America has roughly 765,000 sworn police officers, that means the police-against-citizen kill rate is more than 145 per 100,000. The police kill rate is nearly 30 times that of the average citizen, yet somehow people still call for disarming citizens and say nothing about the police. And no, the citizens are not becoming more violent. In fact, humanity is at its safest time in history—ever—and, in spite of the lunatic terrorists shooting up public places, violent crimes as well as all crime continues to drop, significantly. The next time your friends try to tell you that citizens should be disarmed, tell them what that really means; they only want government, who has a history of racism and violence, who kill indiscriminately, with zero accountability, and far more often, to be the ones with guns. Red: "We need guns to protect us from the government. Also, it is unpatriotic to second-guess when armed government employees kill people."
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#1. To: Deckard, All (#0)
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A statistic can be useful and enlightening. However, it can also be misleading and used to advance meaningless propaganda. The article posted here serves as a good reminder that statistics are supposed to make something easier to understand. But when a statistic is used in a misleading fashion, it is simply a method to intentionally trick and mislead the casual observer into believing the purpose an individual with agenda is promoting. In some cases, the misuse of statistics may be accidental. In others, it is used deceitfully in a purposeful manner for the gain of the perpetrator. When the statistical reason involved is misapplied, this constitutes a statistical fallacy. The false statistics trap can be quite instrumental in obstructing the quest for knowledge. It is a blatant misuse of statistics when a statistical argument asserts one thing that is not logically synonymous with the other.
Parsons: "It is unpatriotic to second-guess when armed government employees kill people." Parsons doesn't believe that the Second Amendment was written to protect our right to defend against government - the State loves its obedient slaves. So sayeth the authority-worshiping Parsons. Did anyone the cops shot deserve it? When you take god out of society and replace it with an anything goes deckard drug state. I can see how lower Morales and increasedviolence can cause the police to kill more people. I'm just saying that is a factor. It doesn't excuse misuse of deadly force. I'm just saying in an immoral and degenerate er as there are more evil assholes that need to be shot. Again for clarification I'm not justifying wrong doing.
And your idiocy continues. I “sayeth” that Authority is necessary in all aspects of life and without it, there can only be anarchy and chaos. Without authority in a home, there will be no home. Without any authority in our schools, there will be insurmountable problems. There is authority in the workplace....in your workplace and while you personally may not like it, you must live with it. Oh, I am sure your would lke the idea of having no boss at work, but unless there is someone there to act with authority, it would be impossible for the TV station where you work to flourish. And without any authority whatsoever in our nation and our government, we would find many citizens that will act extremely wickedly using absolutely no judgment or taking responsibility for their personal actions. You see Deckard, even though you don’t like it....authority is needed everywhere. This is something that most intelligent people freely recognize. For there is no group, organization or nation that can function smoothly without someone in a position of authority. No, I don’t “worship”....I simply recognize that authority is necessary.
And your idiocy continues. That was no idiotic statement made by Stone. When you take God out of society and replace his lost presence with anarchy....all you have is chaos.
The entire sentence was idiotic. The "deckard drug state" comment was idiotic. That comment as well as comments you yourself have made is a gross misinterpretation of my views. And no - I am not going to clarify those views to you - I have done so on many occasions. Good grief Parsons- enough with your pompous lecturing. You're a shill for the State - we all get that. You support a drug state. So it could be called deckards wet dream drug state.
Why don't you quit lecturing us about the imaginary benefits to us becoming a deckard drug state.
"We" ??? You are the only one in this discussion and all I am trying to do is "show you the Light."
There can be no misinterpretation of your views. You have CLEARLY stated them.
As opposed to the "successful" War on Drugs, Prohibition 2.0 that has cost trillions of dollars and trampled on the rights of INNOCENT citizens by the thousands (I'm talking about those who have never even used drugs) and is partially responsible for ramping up the police state to it's current dystopian incarnation?
You have never clarified anything. You have only continued to do what you have always done….that is to complain about and condemn America. Deckard, I am not being facetious when I ask you a very serious question….why do you stay in America since you hate so much the way it is and continually condemn it in so many ways? All you ever do is bitch and post despairing articles.
Many police shootings are objectively justified, such as a shootout with an armed criminal, so those should absolutely not be compared to mass shootings such as happened in Florida where all victims were clearly innocent. To be a more fair comparison, it should only count those killed by police who were unarmed and had no intent to harm police officers or any others, regardless of whether the police believed or claimed they were in danger.
That is a fair assessment.
You're a shill for the State - we all get that. FACT.
Title: In 3 Years, Cops Have Killed 450% More Citizens Than 4 Decades of Mass Shootings COMBINED The correlative factors outline? (some have already been mention by some here ...you may add others): 1) SIMPLY MORE CRIME BEING COMMITTED. MUCH OF IT IN "VIBRANT" DEM-PLANTATION CITIES. WITH LITTLE FEAR OF LE, CONSEQUENCE OR SOCIETAL OSTRACIZING (epidemic).
That has got to be the most tortured statistic I have ever read.
In 3 Years, Cops Have Killed 450% More Citizens Than 4 Decades of Mass Shootings COMBINED.
#2. To: Gatlin (#1)
(Edited)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#3. To: Deckard (#0)
#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)
When you take god out of society and replace it with an anything goes deckard drug state.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#5. To: Deckard (#2)
It is unpatriotic to second-guess when armed government employees kill people.
I said no such thing, and since your autism prevents you from intelligently responding to my logical and truthful post....it is embarrassingly clear that you must resort to fabricating a quote and lie to present it as truthful. Parsons doesn't believe that the Second Amendment was written to protect our right to defend against government - the State loves its obedient slaves.
Just because I will not condone someone posting a statistical fallacy in no way means that I do not believe in the Second Amendment. Your use of that Formal Fallacy was a distinctive flaw in the structure of your deductive argument which renders the argument invalid. So sayeth the authority-worshiping Parsons.
#6. To: Deckard (#4)
When you take god out of society and replace it with an anything goes deckard drug state.
#7. To: Gatlin (#6)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#8. To: Gatlin (#5)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#9. To: Deckard (#7)
#10. To: Deckard (#8)
Good grief Parsons- enough with your pompous lecturing.
#11. To: Deckard (#8)
we all get that.
#12. To: Deckard (#7)
... gross misinterpretation of my views.
#13. To: A K A Stone (#9)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#14. To: Deckard (#7)
I am not going to clarify those views to you - I have done so on many occasions.
#15. To: Deckard (#0)
#16. To: Pinguinite, Deckard (#15)
To be a more fair comparison, it should only count those killed by police who were unarmed and had no intent to harm police officers or any others, regardless of whether the police believed or claimed they were in danger.
#17. To: Deckard, Gatlin (#8)
Good grief Parsons- enough with your pompous lecturing.
FACT.
#18. To: Deckard, Gatlin, GrandIsland, redleghunter, rlk (#0)
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2) DISDAIN/DISRESPECT OF LOCAL, STATE, FERAL, CONSTITUTIONAL LAW (epidemic)
3) DISDAIN/DISRESPECT OF NATURAL LAW (epidemic)
4) DISDAIN/DISRESPECT OF GOD'S LAW and BIBLICAL MORAL TEACHINGS (epidemic)
5) DISINTEGRATION OF FAMILIES, NO MALE MENTOR (epidemic)
6) PROGRESSIVE/REGRESSIVE LEFT EMASCULATION OF THE WESTERN MALE (epidemic)
7) CULTURE OF HATE AND "VICTIMHOOD" PROMOTED BY PROGRESS-REGRESSIVE LEFT ACADEMIA & CULTURE (epidemic)
8) CULTURE OF NARCISSISM, VULGARITY, AND SELFISHNESS PROMOTED BY HUMANIST PROG-REGRESSIVE LEFT (epidemic)
9) CULTURE OF REVENGE PROMOTED BY PROG-REGRESSIVE LEFT (epidemic)
10) PHARMACEUTICAL NATION PROMOTED BY PROG-REGRESSIVE LEFT and APA/AMA (epidemic)
10) THIRD WORLD INVADERS/IMMIGRANTS WHO DO NOT RESPECT TRADITIONAL AMERICAN CULTURE AND LAWS (epidemic)
12) CORRUPT PROG-REGRESSIVE LEFT-DEM JUDGES, LE, AND POLITICIANS WHO NOT ONLY REFUSE TO ENFORCE LAW, BUT BREAK THE LAW (epidemic, DEFCON 1)
#19. To: Deckard (#0)
In 3 Years, Cops Have Killed 450% More Citizens Than 4 Decades of Mass Shootings COMBINED
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