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Title: Drama on the House floor from the Freedom Caucus
Source: Politico
URL Source: [None]
Published: Dec 5, 2017
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2018-02-14 23:19:53 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 72
Comments: 2

DRAMA -- “House conservatives almost topple tax vote,” by Bernie Becker, Sarah Ferris, and Colin Wilhelm: “House conservatives threatened to derail a key tax vote on Monday in an attempt to win more influence over the GOP’s spending strategy, just four days before the deadline to fund the government. In a dramatic political stunt, more than a dozen members of the House Freedom Caucus withheld their support for a crucial procedural vote on the GOP’s tax bill, threatening an embarrassing blow to GOP leadership.

“The conservatives eventually relented, approving what had been thought to be a formality — a motion to appoint negotiators to hammer out a final tax bill with the Senate. But the frenzy on the House floor underscored the divisions within the GOP over a spending strategy this month, and that the Republicans’ march toward overhauling the tax code — which has proceeded with relatively little drama so far — could get caught up in the process.

“Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), the Freedom Caucus chairman, said after Monday’s vote that he ‘felt very good’ about his conversation on the floor with Speaker Paul Ryan, who personally involved himself in the arm-twisting of conservatives. Meadows had earlier stepped outside the House chamber to take a phone call from President Donald Trump, but declined to give any details on the president’s message.” http://politi.co/2iQOQ4a

-- IF YOU’RE A BETTING MAN OR WOMAN, this isn’t over. The Freedom Caucus wants to change the date of the government funding expiration. Right now, funding is set to expire Dec. 22, at which time Congress will punt the deadline again into 2018 to cobble together a large, yearlong spending bill. Meadows and the Freedom Caucus want a Dec. 30 or Dec. 31 expiration, because they think it gives them leverage. This does not seem likely to happen.

-- THIS IS A GOOD REMINDER: The Freedom Caucus, when it’s unified, can control the outcome on the House floor.

TO REVIEW -- The government shuts down on Friday. Meadows -- the leader of a bloc of more than 30 conservatives -- says he does not like the GOP leadership plan. Democrats have no intent to help Republican leaders pass a stop gap measure. And the first serious talks between principals -- Democratic and Republican leaders and President Donald Trump -- is Thursday, the day before the funding deadline.

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Read these true words from the article very carefully:
-- THIS IS A GOOD REMINDER: The Freedom Caucus, when it’s unified, can control the outcome on the House floor.
Then decide is you want a secret group that will not release the names of its members and meets behind closed doors “controlling the outcome on the House floor?”

I damned sure don’t….A few poor souls do..

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-14   23:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#2. To: Gatlin (#1) (Edited)

-- THIS IS A GOOD REMINDER: The Freedom Caucus, when it’s unified, can control the outcome on the House floor.

This is just plain stupid.

They were unified against the budget bill just last week. And drew in some extra votes from GOP members not in the Freedom Caucus. And 169 GOPes and 71 Dems passed it anyway.

Do you even pay attention to news stories? Your criteria for posting these articles is to rush off to some lib news outlet that hates Republicans with a fury and then quote anything they put out that sounds critical of the Freedom Caucus. Even if it is laughably and demonstrably wrong.

I think it's funny that the Freedom Caucus is such a bee in your bonnet.

BTW, keep in mind that even if we lose the House in the fall elections: the Freedom Caucus will still be there and is unlikely to lose any seats at all. If one or two do retire, they'll be replaced by people just as conservative and very likely to join the Freedom Caucus. They will grow proportionally more powerful in the GOP caucus and Meadows could become minority leader in the House in that event.

Then decide is you want a secret group that will not release the names of its members and meets behind closed doors “controlling the outcome on the House floor?”
This is just plain dumb. There are lots of different caucuses in the House in both parties. And all of them, including the GOP caucus and the Dem caucus, do meet regularly behind closed doors. Because when you open the doors, the press comes in to spy on you. One of the most open caucuses were the Liberty Caucus that Ron Paul led. They held weekly luncheons and numbered about 30 at their height. Freedom Caucus is somewhat larger, probably 35 real members, another dozen in their orbit but not committed to voting with them in lockstep. And voting in lockstep is how caucuses get real power within their party.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-15   1:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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