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Title: Christian Peace
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Published: Feb 13, 2018
Author: Vicomte13
Post Date: 2018-02-13 19:05:02 by Vicomte13
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Views: 12489
Comments: 101

It's been a rough couple of days around here. Several of us, myself included, have not behaved in a manner at all befitting of a follower of Jesus.

I propose that we cut that off and come back together in peace. We worship the same God and follow the same Lord. And he admonished us to love each other. Having gone in the other direction and riled ourselves up with hatred, what do we have to show for it?

Nothing good.

So lets cut our losses and get back in line with our leader, who is in heaven.

For my part, I am sorry for all of the harsh words. I was hurt and angry, and lashing out, trying to inflict hurt and spread around the hate. We all know this is bad. I'm sorry I did it, and I will work much harder to keep my hot blood in check in the future.

If I hurt any of you, I'm sorry. VxH, let's make peace. Too Conservative, I'm sorry I swore at you. A K A Stone - it's your site, and I spread crap all over the place out of wrath. I am sorry, and I will try to not do that ever again.

Our interpretations of Christianity are different, but do we disagree that we are not supposed to carry on like this? Surely we all do. So let's all repent of it, change a different direction, turn the other cheek, forgive and forget, and move on in a more positive direction.

That's what I will try to do.

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#10. To: Vicomte13 (#0)

Love ya Bro and thanks for this thread. If I have ever offended you in any way I apologize and seek forgiveness.

God Bless.

redleghunter  posted on  2018-02-14   0:24:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: redleghunter (#10)

Love ya Bro and thanks for this thread. If I have ever offended you in any way I apologize and seek forgiveness.

God Bless.

Thank you. Everybody here needs to try harder at this, and we would all enjoy the place more.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-02-14   8:11:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Vicomte13 (#12) (Edited)

Thank you. Everybody here needs to try harder at this, and we would all enjoy the place more.

Vicomte13 posted

No you need to try harder at this. You were getting your ass kicked up and down the aisle because you were ignoring scripture. Adding to scripture. Making stuff up saying Mary wasn't a sinner. Yes that is some Catholic bullshit.

I recall another time you were getting your ass kicked. You pulled this same stunt. Same type of thread. Let's all get along. Thing is I don't want to go along with bullshit to get along.

That doesn't mean ai I don't like you or hate you. It means some of your beliefs are out there and not based on scripture. Then someone calls you on it because it isn't in the Bible because it is some made up bullshit. Then you get all mad about it and start saying we aren't christians. I was very careful to say that I don't think Catholics who are doctrinelky in errror that they could still be saved if they actually believed that Jesussus was the saviour.

So we don't all need to do better. That is some liberal group think bullshit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-02-14   9:38:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#14)

Ok. Well, I tried.

I was not "getting my ass kicked" or anything like it. There was a thread about gays, and VxH showed up and decided to bring my father's death from AIDS, as if to make a point.

This was very nasty business, but it did not "kick my ass", it made me properly angry.

What I wrote here is objectively true. Christian people should not be talking to each other the way that they do here. If people are to discuss Scripture, God, things spiritual, they should do so in a manner that respects the subject matter. You don't. Too Conservative does not. I try to.

I am not going to debate Scripture with you on this thread. That was not the point. The point was to remind everybody that we are supposed to live within boundaries and keep a guard on our mouths.

You don't want to do so, indeed, you see weakness in doing what Christ said to do. So let that be upon your head.

It has never here been a matter of getting my ass kicked intellectually. Truth is, none of you ever actually engage with the ideas I present. What you do is start to rant and get nastier and meaner, hurling accusations. You, and Too Conservative, and VxH, take the conversation in a direction that forces me to choose to be uncivil and coarse - which sometimes I do, but I'm not good at it and am unwilling to keep at - or to back away and cease the discussion.

Your message just told me that you don't care about the limits that Christians are supposed to place on their mouths, that you're not going to, that you don't read well, that you're not honest, and that you're going to go right on being a nasty jerk, that that's what this site is for - take it or leave it.

I choose to leave it. Good bye. Close my account.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-02-14   10:19:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Vicomte13, A K A Stone, redleghunter (#17)

You, and Too Conservative, and VxH, take the conversation in a direction that forces me to choose to be uncivil and coarse - which sometimes I do, but I'm not good at it and am unwilling to keep at - or to back away and cease the discussion.

You should get an Oscar for this dramatic little performance.

It was you who claimed angelic ancestry on that thread, starting in #39.

Angels had children with human women, creating the Nephilim (and their descendants, the Basques) so apparently they have the equipment...at least some of them.

It was you who claimed that the Father had carnal organs and had sex with Mary in your #84:

Other than the fact that they mated with human females and produced the Nephilim.

And of course the Father begat Jesus via Mary.

Then, after much protestation, I reviewed some of your other heresies regarding whether God is the author of evil and whether Jesus was an XX male (hermaphrodite or close to it) in my #184, claims that you made in just since September.

You can't spout a lot of known ancient heresies (sprinkling in a few you made up for yourself) and not expect Christians with orthodox views to quietly assent to it or agree with you. This is even more true when your own church of Rome does not hold any of these positions and would, if the point were forced, condemn your views on these matters.

So you can stomp off, all hurt and self-righteous. But the truth is that you picked a fight with orthodox Christian belief as it has been known since ancient times and you got your ass kicked. And you think that's unfair.

I didn't and don't particularly want you to leave LF. But if you do, it's on you, bub. You wanted dialogue. You got it. And these were all topics you knew in advance were pure trouble and likely to start fights. Yet you persisted. Then you want to play the wounded woman and flee. Well, fine. But what I have described in this post is a very fair summary of what you did. It's on you, not on us, if you choose to leave after making an ass of yourself.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-14   12:01:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Tooconservative (#22) (Edited)

And of course the Father begat Jesus via Mary.

We Catholics call that Immaculate Conception, it's NOT boning Mary!

It's no wonder that you're prohibited from having statutes of Mary the Blessed Virgin.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-02-14   12:10:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: hondo68 (#24)

We Catholics call that Immaculate Conception, it's NOT boning Mary!

The word 'begat' has specific meaning in scripture. It refers to men having carnal relations with a woman to produce an heir (or male offspring).

Scripture never says that the Father begat Jesus. Yet the vast majority of major Jewish personages in the Bible are listed by lineage as having been 'begat'. But not Jesus.

So are you also on-board with the whole God-has-a-penis-and-screwed-Mary doctrine that Vic seemed to be offering up? Yes or no?

Why don't you go try to peddle that to the local church of Rome where you live and see what the result is. About the same reception as you'll get when you try to say the same thing here. I know the Catholics where I live would never say such things. But they are quite conservative Catholics.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-14   12:35:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Tooconservative (#26)

So are you also on-board with the whole God-has-a-penis-and-screwed-Mary doctrine

Why don't you go try to peddle that to the local church of Rome where you live

I said "it's NOT boning Mary", so no I'm not on-board with your fantasy that God has a penis.

Go peddle that shuck 'n jive at your local cults crop circle. Vic never said the crap you're making up.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-02-14   12:50:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: hondo68 (#27)

Go peddle that shuck 'n jive at your local cults crop circle. Vic never said the crap you're making up.

He did say it. I quoted it. You can verify that he wrote it.

Or are you going to try to argue, like a Xlinton, that "it depends on the meaning of the word 'begat'"?

You can't have your cake and eat it too. You don't get to make up heretical nonsense entirely outside the teachings of orthodox Christianity for 2,000 years and still claim to represent mainstream beliefs.

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