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Title: Republican Rep. Jim Jordan: Paul Ryan has 'got problems'
Source: CNN
URL Source: https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/11/poli ... dan-paul-ryan-house/index.html
Published: Feb 12, 2018
Author: Eli Watkins
Post Date: 2018-02-12 21:16:41 by Gatlin
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Views: 6575
Comments: 56

Republican Rep. Jim Jordan: Paul Ryan has 'got problems'

Washington (CNN)One of the leading voices of the House Freedom Caucus warned Sunday that House Speaker Paul Ryan was facing problems from fellow Republicans dissatisfied with his leadership.

Ohio Republican Rep. Jim Jordan said the recently passed government funding agreement, which raises budget caps by $300 billion over two years, was "not consistent" with the promises Republicans made to cut spending, and that Ryan's support for the deal undermined his leadership.

"Do I think the speaker has problems? Yes, I do," Jordan said.

He noted that Ryan entered the national stage as one of the party's top hawks on deficit spending. "Just a few years ago, he was viewed as the leader of fiscal responsibility in our party," Jordan said. "And now he presides over a bill that increases spending $300 billion, a trillion-dollar deficit, when we were so poised to win this fight. Of course he's got problems."

Asked if this meant he thought it was time for Republicans to change their leadership, Jordan demurred, saying, "We'll have that debate at the appropriate time." J ordan was among the Republicans who voted against the package citing concerns over increased spending, and on the other side of the Capitol, Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul railed against his colleagues for what he called "hypocrisy" on spending and held the floor of the Senate through Thursday evening, slipping the government into a temporary shutdown.

Paul, in an interview on CBS "Face the Nation," defended his move and said many Republicans have not reckoned their calls for decreased spending with their support for increased military budgets. "There's sort of this question, is the military budget too small or maybe is our mission too large around the world?" Paul said. "And because Republicans are unwilling to confront that they want more, more, more for military spending."

In a separate interview on CBS, White House budget director Mick Mulvaney defended the deal President Donald Trump approved of and said to get a boost in military spending, they had to give in to some Democratic demands. "They held the Defense Department hostage, and we had to pay that ransom," Mulvaney said.

Mulvaney, who was himself a member of the House Freedom Caucus until Trump tapped him for budget director, also said he probably would not have voted for the deal if he were still in Congress.

"My job as the director of the Office of Management Budget is to try to get the President's agenda passed," Mulvaney said. "And right now the top priority for this President was getting the Defense Department the money necessary to defend the nation."

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Republican Rep. Jim Jordan: Paul Ryan has 'got problems'
That’s true.

One of the biggest problems Ryan has is the Freedom Caucus.

The first order of business for the newly formed Freedom Caucus was to get rid of John Boehner.

They did that and now they want to get rid of Ryan.

Will the Freedom Caucus ever be satisfied?

The answer to that is, no.

It is as Rep. Adam Kinzinger says, Jim Jordan never misses an opportunity to slam somebody in his own party. In fact, I see him do that more often than he does anybody else.

“We have met the enemy....and the enemy is us.”

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-12   21:37:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Here's the big problem with Jim Jordan's critique of Paul Ryan:

Getting rid of Paul Ryan would be a very bad idea for Republicans.

(CNN)Jim Jordan isn't happy with Paul Ryan.

The Ohio conservative made that clear during an interview on "Fox News Sunday" when asked about the speaker of the House.

Do I think the speaker has problems?" Jordan said. "Yes I do, particularly now as we head into this big immigration debate."

When "FNS" host Chris Wallace asked whether it was time for the party to move on from Ryan as speaker, Jordan responded:

We'll have that debate at the appropriate time. You asked me if there's concerns with the speaker. I think there are big concerns because he just presided over one of the biggest spending increases in the history of the country at a time when we were elected to do just the opposite."

So. That happened.

Conservative unrest with Republican leadership is not exactly a new storyline. Just ask the man Ryan replaced as speaker -- John Boehner decided to call it quits after weathering a series of disappointing legislative defeats engineered by Jordan and his fellow members of the House Freedom Caucus.

Know what else isn't new? Conservatives agitating for a leadership change with absolutely no next step or thought-out strategy.

The Boehner resignation is instructive.

When Boehner walked away -- or announced his plan to walk away in September 2015 -- it very quickly became clear that the same forces that forced his hand had absolutely no plan to replace him.

Boehner's second in command -- California Rep. Kevin McCarthy -- made an aborted attempt to claim the top job but it quickly became clear that conservatives wouldn't be for him and he pulled out of the race before it even started.

Thus began the long, dark tea-time of the Republican soul. The three weeks from the October 8 McCarthy failure to the October 29 election of Ryan as speaker made very clear that while the House Freedom Caucus was a powerful blockade to Republican leadership, it simply lacked the cohesion -- and raw numbers -- to be the governing wing of the party. There's nothing to indicate that things have changed since 2015.

Jordan, then Rep. Jason Chaffetz (Utah), Rep. Daniel Webster (Fla.), Rep. Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.), Rep. Jeb Hensarling (Texas) and lots and lots of other conservatives either floated their own names or watched as their names were floated in the interregnum.

And almost as soon as their names emerged, it became clear that they simply didn't have the votes to come even close to winning a majority of the majority.

Which is when the recruitment of Ryan began. The Wisconsin Republican had initially said "no" to overtures that he step into the leadership void. But as the days dragged on and it became clear that no one else in the House Republican conference could get anywhere near enough support, Ryan reconsidered. Once he changed his mind, he won easily.

Here's the lesson to take from that bit of history: The House Freedom Caucus had zero plan other than getting rid of Boehner.

Here's their plan, in fact:
Step 1: Get rid of person we don't like
Step 2: ?????
Step 3: Permanent conservative governance
It, um, didn't work out that way in 2015. And it won't work that way in 2018, or 2019 or 2020 either.

It's possible that Jordan could capitalize on unrest within the Republican ranks centered on the massive growth of the deficit under GOP leadership to either beat Ryan or make his life much more uncomfortable.

But there is simply no one waiting in the wings that has even close to the profile of Ryan. McCarthy, the second-ranking House Republican, already lost once. Majority Whip Steve Scalise continues the long recovery from being shot at a baseball practice and would have a hard time amassing the necessary support.

Chaffetz resigned to become a cable TV personality. South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy, who is regarded highly by lots of conservatives, is retiring this fall. Jordan could have support within his clique but would struggle mightily outside of it. Ditto Rep. Mark Meadows (N.C.), the current chair of the House Freedom Caucus. The only person who, I think, could make a semi-cogent argument to be Speaker is North Carolina Rep. Patrick McHenry. But he seems to be biding his time and seems to have zero interest in an attempted coup on Ryan.

The point here is that Jordan's carping is sound and fury, signifying not much. If congressional Republicans managed to throw Ryan out, it would be cutting off their noses despite their faces. They may not love everything he does -- and the deficit embiggening is clearly antithetical to the principles Ryan rose to national prominence on nearly a decade ago -- but there is simply no one even close to Ryan's stature operating in the House conference right now.

And that very much includes Jim Jordan.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-02-12 22:07:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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It is as Rep. Adam Kinzinger says, Jim Jordan never misses an opportunity to slam somebody in his own party.

That isn't true. He praises Rand Paul.

Here's a nice photo of them. I saw another where they were standing together, thick as thieves, in the Oval Office when Trump signed a bill, I think maybe one having to do with coal but I can't locate it again.

You don't have that much room to bitch about Republicans from other states when the biggest backstabber of the modern GOP and of conservatives generally is a senator from your own state. When is that old bag of shit finally going to croak? He got my hopes up by being too sick to show up for work the last week or so but I've been disappointed before. He's toying with us 'cause he knows we want him gone. I keep thinking that he's plotting to hand his seat off to his idiot daughter or to his son in the military but I don't think he can sell that to the voters.

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The first order of business for the newly formed Freedom Caucus was to get rid of John Boehner.

They did that and now they want to get rid of Ryan.

A most worthy goal. Paul Ryan is a POS, same as Boehner.

Log Jamin' Republican NWO libtards

Sucking up to Nancy Pelosi. They'll literally do anything to F' America!

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