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Title: The American Experience,The Gilded Age
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Published: Feb 12, 2018
Author: sneakypete
Post Date: 2018-02-12 01:09:57 by sneakypete
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The "thinking" of leftists on full display. The American Experience is in general one of PBS's most leftist leaning programs,and the series "The Gilded Age" is about the transformation of America from a primitive rural age where there are no real jobs other than in the cities,and most American lead a day to day life of manual labor on small farms or ranches to eek out a subsistence lifestyle. No real money to speak of,and nothing to fall back on but distant neighbors if the men die or get injured,to the creation of the industrial nation in the late 1890's and early 1900's. A prime example is right after explaining how US Steel was created and Andrew Carnegie was paid $250 million for it,he became the richest man in the world. They showed the steel mills operating,people working,trains moving along carrying people,good,and produce,as well as mentioning the improved lifestyles of the typical citizen. Then the very next thing you hear is the talking head historians talking about the transformation of the American government from a government that served the people,to a government that served the capitalists. This,of course was all the fault of the evil Republicans that took over control of our nation in the 1896 election. The blindness is stunning. Due to industrialization the typical American worker had a salary above the survival rate,to a level where it was possible for him to not only support his family,but to save money,send his children to school,buy a house,buy better/nicer clothes,etc,etc,etc,and somehow access to this better life is evil because it is a result of millionaires and Republicans colluding to take away people's freedom by buying them jobs and making them slaves to the big banks and bankers. I am GUESSING these improvements in the living conditions and the creations of hope for a future better life would be ok with them,if only the wealthy would give it all away and refuse any profits. And they said all this without the slightest trace of shame or hesitation about looking like the fools they are. It actually made my head hurt to listen to and see it,but I recommend everyone watch it to see where the roots of today's lunacy originated,and how todays loons still think communism makes sense. Poster Comment: Look for The American Experience on your local PBS station or on your dish service,and then look for "The Gilded Age" programming. I still haven't deleted it,and plan on going back to get the commenters names and occupations.
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#4. To: sneakypete, Y'ALL, (#0)
The blindness is stunning. Due to industrialization the typical American worker had a salary above the survival rate,to a level where it was possible for him to not only support his family,but to save money,send his children to school,buy a house,buy better/nicer clothes,etc,etc,etc,and somehow access to this better life is evil ---- It actually made my head hurt to listen to and see it,but I recommend everyone watch it to see where the roots of today's lunacy originated,and how todays loons still think communism makes sense. I watched it, and had the same reaction. Their blindness on how 'evil' industrialization lead directly to an age of invention by 'common men' like Edison, Ford, etc, -- who finally had the wherewithal to innovate, to start new businesses which employed millions more, --- was stunning... Capitalism works.. When tempered with constitutional safeguards that protect an individual workers freedoms, it works even better.
It's the only thing that does. You can bet everything you own that every single one of the fools making comments are either trust fund children,or academics who have never even bumped into reality. All they have and all they know is theory.
It's the only thing that does. You can bet everything you own that every single one of the fools making comments are either trust fund children,or academics who have never even bumped into reality. All they have and all they know is theory. Mankind has a very long history, most of it was as hunters/gatherers. Then 5 thousands years of city/despotic empires, surrounded by barbarian tribes. Capitalism as a dominating formation arose in XVIII century and spread over XIX. Very short time in historical scale. Beside good things, it starved Irish, forced opium on China ruining it, exterminated millions in Africa (8 millions in Congo only), made huge profits on slavery. If not reformers like FDR, it would be already swept out by the revolution. And it is eroding in our eyes.
So have you surrendered your home, assets AND bank account to the State yet? And invited a half dozen illegals or fellow comrades to share it all? And don't forget that ALL your material belongings, luxuries, yes, and even your FAITH MUST be approved by The State. NO INDEPENDENT BARTERING OR CHEATING. If you are this anxious going to be part of the neo-Commie Antifa Revolution, why not get a head start by example? You don't want to be such a blatant hypocrite, do you? OR...do you need to wait for the blood flowing in the streets, Comrade? (Some "Christian" YOU are, btw.)
Capitalism is dying because of its success. The wealth gets concentrated in few hands, stops to be based on industrial production. Instead it increasingly gets based on speculation, usury and rent seeking. Rents are income derived merely from ownership - like inheritance, patents etc ... One example of rent-seeking, when there is a natural medicine that works better like kratom, the capitalist giants of Big Pharma, first patent syntetized active components, then ban kratom using political influence, then package syntetics as a official drug, inferior but priced severel times higher.
The wealth gets concentrated in few hands, stops to be based on industrial production. Instead it increasingly gets based on speculation, usury and rent seeking. As I noted just above: --- Capitalism works.. When tempered with constitutional safeguards that protect an individual workers freedoms, it works even better. In the USA, we've developed safeguards against dog eat dog unfettered capitalism, some constitutional, some not.. The silicon valley example shows that constitutionally based capitalism is healthy and working. --- One of our biggest problems NOW is over-regulating business by out of control fed, state, and local governments...
When?
As I noted just above: --- Capitalism works.. When tempered with constitutional safeguards that protect an individual workers freedoms, it works even better. In the USA, we've developed safeguards against dog eat dog unfettered capitalism, some constitutional, some not.. The silicon valley example shows that constitutionally based capitalism is healthy and working. --- One of our biggest problems NOW is over-regulating business by out of control fed, state, and local governments... You ask when? --- when the safeguards were put in place? -- We've been writing labor law regulations since the early 1900's. Too many, in my opinion...
You would prefer a revolution? "Given its size, violence, and political importance, it might seem strange that the Little Steel Strike of 1937 is so forgotten. In the midst of the Great Depression, 80,000 steelworkers went out on strike in a swath of industrial America stretching from Chicago to central Pennsylvania, defying some of the world’s most viciously antiunion corporations in a bitter fight for recognition of their right to organize in the Steel Workers Organizing Committee (SWOC), one of the divisions of the new Committee for Industrial Organization (CIO—later Congress of Industrial Organizations). The owners of “Little Steel”—the moniker given to US Steel’s competitors Republic Steel, Youngstown Sheet & Tube Company, and Inland Steel—and their pawns in state and local government, met the workers with savage violence, killing 18, including 10 at the notorious Memorial Day Massacre of peacefully demonstrating strikers gunned down by the Chicago Police Department. The steelworkers were ultimately defeated, but not for lack of fight." "With the industrial organizing drive defeated, the steel corporations, spearheaded by US Steel, put in place one of the most far-reaching spy systems ever carried out against a workforce, which White deals with in his second and third chapters. At times, “the steel companies’ power amount to nearly totalitarian control,” he notes. This dictatorship underpinned extreme labor exploitation and brutal working conditions that “generated enormous profits… The Mellons, the Mestas, Morgans, Phipps, Rockefellers—all these families built their fortunes on steel and steel labor.” White’s research here is important because it shows that, as was the case with other industries, the upsurge of the industrial working class preceded the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA, or Wagner Act) passed in 1935, and the formation of the CIO. The NLRA, which for the first time provided American workers with some protection against summary firing for joining a union, was the response from bourgeois political reformers to a working-class revolt that was already underway. Monroe strikers:
#31. To: A Pole (#26)
As I noted just above: --- Capitalism works.. When tempered with constitutional safeguards that protect an individual workers freedoms, it works even better. In the USA, we've developed safeguards against dog eat dog unfettered capitalism, some constitutional, some not.. The silicon valley example shows that constitutionally based capitalism is healthy and working. --- One of our biggest problems NOW is over-regulating business by out of control fed, state, and local governments... You ask when? --- when the safeguards were put in place? -- We've been writing labor law regulations since the early 1900's. Too many, in my opinion... A Pole ---- "You would prefer a revolution? " Weird question, seeing that I've shown that I'm in favor of the safeguards developed against dog eat dog unfettered capitalism, ---- the constitutional ones...
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#6. To: tpaine (#4)
Capitalism works..
#7. To: sneakypete, tpaine (#6)
"Capitalism works.."
#8. To: A Pole (#7)
#10. To: Liberator (#8)
#20. To: A Pole, Y'ALL (#10)
Capitalism is dying because of its success.
#23. To: tpaine (#20)
When tempered with constitutional safeguards
#25. To: A Pole (#23)
When?
#26. To: tpaine (#25)
We've been writing labor law regulations since the early 1900's.
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