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Title: President Trump Said in 2015 that He Never Had Flu Shots and Never Had the Flu. Meanwhile Everyone Else Being Pressured to Get These Shots
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Activist Post
URL Source: https://www.activistpost.com/2018/0 ... -else-pressured-get-shots.html
Published: Feb 8, 2018
Author: BN Frank
Post Date: 2018-02-09 06:56:10 by Deckard
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Views: 3486
Comments: 51
By B.N. Frank My deepest condolences to all who have lost loved ones because of “The Flu.” Because there is so much illness right now in the U.S, there has been much debate whether flu shots are effective, not effective, or even harmful. President Trump is known for saying many colorful things. What many haven’t heard is what he said about flu shots in 2015. The flu shot is the greatest scam in medical history, created by Big Pharma to make money off vulnerable people and make them sick. I’ve never had one. And thus far I’ve never had the flu. I don’t like the idea of injecting bad stuff into your body. And that’s basically what they do. And this one (latest flu vaccine) has not been very effective to start off with. I have friends that religiously get the flu shot and then they get the flu. You know, that helps my thinking. I’ve seen a lot of reports that the last flu shot is virtually totally ineffective. Audio from this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Fbeh5ThxE According to a recent Time.com article, President Trump has been reported to be in good health. Like everyone else, he is being encouraged to get a flu shot. However, he “has no legal obligation to do so or make public whether he received one or not.” President Trump isn’t the only one who is apprehensive about flu shots. I remember seeing a segment on Inside Edition in 2009 about a healthy athletic 25-year-old woman whose life changed dramatically 10 days after getting one. I was sad to see that this happened to her. But I was actually not surprised. In 1977, my great aunt unexpectedly had a massive stroke. I was 8 years old. Before the stroke, I remember her being active, boisterous, independent, healthy, and strong. She insisted on living in her own house, doing all the cleaning and laundry, cutting her own grass, walking to and from the grocery store. She liked keeping busy. I loved and admired her very much. I also found her to be a little intimidating. Adult family members would howl with laughter when telling stories about her. She was truly a force to be reckoned with. Sometime after the stroke, I remember hearing my parents talking about her. They said the stroke happened about 2 weeks after she received a flu shot. Apparently this was happening to many other elderly people who had never had strokes before. No one had yet proven there was a correlation, though. The next time I saw my great aunt, it was like she was a completely different person. She was self-conscious and frail. She no longer had control over the right side of her body. Her right arm and leg shook constantly. She had to use a walker and be cared for by others. I felt so bad for her. About 5 years after the stroke, she told me that she prayed every night that God would take her in her sleep. God didn’t take her until she was 97. Because of her – I have never wanted to get a flu shot. I’ve also had 2 primary care physicians who discouraged flu shots. And I’ve talked to at least 8 other people who have also become sick from flu shots – one being a Vietnam veteran. A couple months ago, he was tired of being hassled by the VA to get vaccinated. Within 24 hours of getting the flu shot, he became very sick with flu-like symptoms for 10 days. He called the VA and reported it. The doctor told him that the shot wouldn’t have made him sick. He said he was still never getting a flu shot again. All things considered, I don’t have any desire to ever get a flu shot. For those experiencing illness right now, many people – including physicians – aren’t aware that “The Flu” and “Microwave Sickness” share many of the same symptoms. “Microwave Sickness” isn’t a new condition. It was discovered by doctors in the 1950s. Poster Comment: Trump is right – flu shots are the greatest medical fraud in history. They are full of “bad stuff” including formaldehyde and mercury – two powerful neurotoxins – and the vaccine industry even admits that laboratory tests prove the popular jab does not work.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
And Trump said he never drank, smoked or did drugs. Does that mean he's pressuring others to do the same? Flu shots are not mandatory. Don't get one.
So What? I'm certain millions of people do not receive the flue shot and still avoid the illness. While it is accurate to state that the vaccine's effectiveness varies from year to year - there is no conclusive evidence that the vaccine represents a threat to the vast majority of the population. Every physician I know says the same thing - "Get the vaccine, it can only help you." I personally receive the vaccine every year and I have for as long as I can recall. I've never had the flu, and I've never suffered any side-effects. The "vaccines are dangerous" myths have been debunked repeatedly - here is a link that sums up well.: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/11/vaccines-breaking-down-and- debunking-10-myths/96454552/ one other: http://fortune.com/2018/01/19/flu-shot-history/ "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
Wow. Are you kidding?? I can easily link to a dozen sites that support proof that vaccines are a dangerous scam. Why else would they be "FREE"? Or are children require to be injected several times before attending public school indoctrination centers? Geez, you Statist-Leftists are quite the obedient pets, aren't you?
They are full of “bad stuff” including formaldehyde and mercury – two powerful neurotoxins – and the vaccine industry even admits that laboratory tests prove the popular jab does not work. Needs to be repeated.
Q: If one is oblivious to understanding their own pathological delusions and brain-washing are "side-effects", then how can one "suffer" from any of it? Moreover, IS ignorance "bliss"?
Link away - I'd be interested in seeing the quality of your "experts" You can trust whatever whack-job you wish, I'll trust medical science. "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
You mean all 100+ sites? Would THAT convince you that you're a guinea pig?
You mean, "Franken-Science," right? OF COURSE YOU DO.
Knock yourself out - "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
You have access to G00gle, right? Or have the "side-effects" of your yearly toxic vaccine already done too much damage?
You claimed proof. You have none. "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/misconceptions.htm http://www.who.int/influenza/surveillance_monitoring/updates/2011_11_04_GIP_pee r_reviewed/en/ http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0170550 https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB9572.html "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
So, the purpose of getting flu-shot is to provoke an immune response, right? "A new Yale-led study suggests that death from influenza virus in older people may be primarily caused by a damaging immune response to flu and not by the virus itself." https: //www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160421145802.htm Oops! I usually don't feel much effect from the flu. This year is different. It's like having an allergy from Hell. I think the inflammation due to "immune response" hypothesis is right on target.... and sort of renders the whole rationalle for getting vaccinated, and provoking an immune response, in a specious light.
Suspicious? Doubtful - however, this is certainly an hypothesis that warrants more study. "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
And since this is a "Flu" thread: Lycopene, a natural carotenoid found in tomato, has been reported to possess various health benefits, such as cardiovascular and cancer preventive properties. However, the experimental basis for such health benefits is not fully understood. One of the possible mechanisms for its protective activities is by down-regulation of the inflammatory response. Honey, Garlic, Tomatoes... https://www.google.com/search? q=anti+inflammatory+foods Bon Appetit!
No, specious. ==================== s ==================== IE: casting doubt upon the premise that provoking an immune response to the flu always produces the advertised healthy result.
superficially plausible, but actually wrong Not actually proven wrong...... "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
That annecdotal observation supports the hypothesis that the symptoms of "having/getting the flu" are related to the provoked immune response.
How do you explain that?
I've had many flu shots. The only time i ever felt like I had the flu was when I got the shots. I was told it wasn't the shots. But the correlation was just too great not to relate it to causation. The flu shot doesn't even protect you from getting infected by all the different viruses out there. I'm not saying flu shots are useless, but I am dubious about their so called benefits.
I need this kind of clinical attention to detail on the marijuana threads. Funny, no one seems to care about side effects, drug interactions, effective dosage requirements, drug purity, and the effects on immunosuppressed patients when it comes to marijuana. But a flu shot?
The flu vaccine is not 100% effective...... "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
I understand, many others will choose to heed the advice of the medical community and be vaccinated. "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
Everyone has an opinion - I'm unimpressed. "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
What specifically are you unimpressed about? What is your opinion about is thoughts on giving flu shots to children? Did he say you should never get a flu shot? Why do you disagree with what he said about giving flu shots to the elderly? What is wrong with his thoughts on nutrition and hydration?
Dr High Fudenberg claimed 10 times the risk of developing Alzheimer’s disease in those over 55 years old who received the flu vaccine 5 years in a row. According to Dr. Fudenberg, one of the world’s most prolific immunologists and 13th most quoted biologist of our times (over 600 papers in peer review journals), he had this to say regarding the annual flu vaccine program: “If an individual has had 5 consecutive flu shots between 1970 – 1980 (the years of the study) his / her chance of developing Alzheimer’s Disease is 10 times greater than if they had one, two or no shots.” When asked why this is, Dr. Fudenberg stated that, “It is due to the mercury and aluminum buildup that is in every flu shot. The gradual mercury and aluminum buildup in the brain causes cognitive dysfunction.” http://inflanation.com/vaccines/flu-vaccine-confers10-times-the-risk-of- developing-alzheimers-diseas/
Why?
{ shrug } Do stupid tricks, win stupid prizes. The flu, OTOH, does deadly tricks.
Thimerosal - (mercury) From the CDC - "Thimerosal use in medical products has a record of being very safe. Data from many studies show no evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines." https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/index.html Adjuvants (including Aluminum) have been used safely in vaccines for many decades. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
It all comes down to Australia’s flu season. Scientists study their season because it comes about six months earlier than ours, and can help predict what Americans might expect. https://whyy.org/articles/vaccine-years-flu-effective-portrayed-cdc-says/ "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
You had me fooled. I thought you had a brain and could think. You didn't answer my questions You only gave me links. Lame.
I am neither a doctor nor a scientist. I am relying on scientific evidence that supports my position. I shared some resources that helped me draw my conclusion. So there's a doctor that believes that the amount of mercury and aluminum in the flue vaccine could increase the risk of Alzheimers.... - The flu kills old people in days... it's better to receive the flu shot... This is my position - do you understand? "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
This is my position - do you understand? Your words make it sound like you want to kill old people. That would be consistent with your views on the worthlessness of children and why it is ok to murder them.
What specifically are you unimpressed about? What is your opinion about is thoughts on giving flu shots to children? Did he say you should never get a flu shot? Why do you disagree with what he said about giving flu shots to the elderly? What is wrong with his thoughts on nutrition and hydration?
Your links are JUST "links." Just as mine would be. Except MINE would NOT be sponsored by a corrupt, unscrupulous Big-Pharm manufacturers, corrupt "studies" and Big-Pharm compensated "researchers," a highly corrupt FDA, and corrupt lobbyists who pay corrupt politicians. The evidence that indicts certain vaccines as ticking-time bombs or facilitators of autism is overwhelming. Not that the gubmint and globalist PTB care; They are enablers already also involved in poisoning us via other means. Yes, like through CHEMTRAIL spraying and harvesting aborted baby BODY-PARTS. So really -- how much would this gubmint care about toxic vaccines when they are actively trying to poison and weaken us?
What specifically are you unimpressed about? Everyone has an opinion, his don't cause me to change my mind. What is your opinion about is thoughts on giving flu shots to children? The flu kills little kids - vaccinate them. Did he say you should never get a flu shot? I don't believe so, although his accent made his words sometimes hard to understand, especially on a phone Why do you disagree with what he said about giving flu shots to the elderly? The flu kills old people - vaccinate them! "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
Good query.
A lot of posters enjoy reading your posts. Please remove the tagline that is apparent in you posts and move forward with your other awesome posting capabilities. Your help is important.
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
what are you talking about?
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
No - you're wrong. "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
That would be consistent with your views on the worthlessness of children and why it is ok to murder them. Yup and yup. The trend of endorsing death from the Left is easy to see. Leftist-NWO Gubmint to society: "Here, ingest this poison-pill. And no, that's NOT a 'baby' growing inside you, just some 'tissue.' See those white streaks in the sky being sprayed? Those are VITAMINS you'll inhale. "And those Muzzies and Illegals we've been imported? Their kind of diversity is vital to helping Western society become a BETTER, more vibrant society. We need more worker-drones to replace you. So stop complaining. We're here from the gubmint and here to help." The Left's Death Cult cherishes the notion of "Population Control," believing they will be the last to be eaten.
You're becoming whiny. Is there a vaccine for Whiny Leftist Trolls?
Indeed. I find them awesomely informative and riveting. The perspective of functioning mental patients is to be commended. Please remove the tagline that is apparent in you posts and move forward with your other awesome posting capabilities. Your help is important. I second the motion.
old people - vaccinate them! Late term abortion! You just want people to die!
Your tag line sucks. Change it for an improvement process.
He's been pumped full of toxic vaccines, it's the best he can do now. Very sad.
*LMAO*
So I guess the Australians are SOL. Either it works for the strains affecting the population or it doesn't. Unlike the small pox, polio etc... the flu shot does not. The Flu Vaccine is a hammer but the flu virus, evidently, isn't a nail.
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
SH45 Said in 2015 that He Never Had Flu Shots and Never Had the Flu
#3. To: Jameson (#2)
The "vaccines are dangerous" myths have been debunked repeatedly...
#4. To: Deckard (#0)
Trump is right – flu shots are the greatest medical fraud in history.
#5. To: Jameson (#2)
I personally receive the vaccine every year and I have for as long as I can recall. I've never had the flu, and I've never suffered any side-effects.
#6. To: Liberator (#3)
I can easily link to a dozen sites
#7. To: Jameson (#6)
Link away...
#8. To: Jameson (#6)
I'll trust medical science.
#9. To: Liberator (#7)
You mean all 100+ sites?
#10. To: Jameson (#9)
Knock yourself out
#11. To: Liberator (#10)
I can easily link to a dozen sites that support proof that vaccines are a dangerous scam.
#12. To: Liberator (#10)
You have access to G00gle, right?
#13. To: Deckard, Jameson, misterwhite, Liberator (#0)
#14. To: VxH (#13)
and sort of renders the whole rationale for getting vaccinated, and provoking an immune response, in a specious light.
#15. To: All (#13)
Tomato Lycopene and Inflammatory Cascade: Basic Interactions and Clinical Implications
Abstract
#16. To: Jameson (#14)
(Edited)
Suspicious?
synonyms: misleading, deceptive, false, fallacious, unsound, spurious, casuistic, sophistic
#17. To: VxH (#16)
Auto-correct
#18. To: Deckard (#0)
I have friends that religiously get the flu shot and then they get the flu.
#19. To: Jameson (#17)
"I have friends that religiously get the flu shot and then they get the flu."
#20. To: Jameson (#2)
#21. To: VxH (#13)
"A new Yale-led study suggests that death from influenza virus in older people may be primarily caused by a damaging immune response to flu and not by the virus itself."
#22. To: VxH (#19)
How do you explain that?
#23. To: no gnu taxes (#20)
I'm not saying flu shots are useless, but I am dubious about their so called benefits.
#24. To: Jameson (#23)
I'm not saying flu shots are useless, but I am dubious about their so called benefits. I understand, many others will choose to heed the advice of the medical community and be vaccinated.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#24)
#26. To: misterwhite, Jameson (#21)
#27. To: Jameson (#25)
#28. To: Jameson (#23)
#29. To: Jameson (#22)
(Edited)
the flu vaccine is not 100% effective
#30. To: misterwhite (#21)
Funny, no one seems to care
#31. To: A K A Stone (#28)
#32. To: VxH (#29)
#33. To: Jameson (#31)
#34. To: A K A Stone (#33)
You didn't answer my questions You only gave me links.
#35. To: Jameson (#34)
The flu kills old people in days... it's better to receive the flu shot...
#36. To: Jameson (#34)
#37. To: Jameson, Deckard (#11)
#38. To: A K A Stone (#27)
#39. To: A K A Stone, Jameson (#36)
What is your opinion about is thoughts on giving flu shots to children?
#40. To: Jameson (#31)
#41. To: Liberator (#37)
you have no links - piss off
#42. To: buckeroo (#40)
#43. To: A K A Stone (#35)
Your words make it sound like you want to kill old people
#44. To: A K A Stone, Jameson (#35)
Your words make it sound like you want to kill old people.
#45. To: Jameson (#41)
you have no links - piss off
#46. To: buckeroo, Jameson (#40)
A lot of posters enjoy reading your posts.
#47. To: Jameson, wants people to die (#38)
little kids - vaccinate them.
#48. To: Jameson (#42)
what are you talking about?
#49. To: buckeroo, Jameson (#48)
Your tag line sucks.
#50. To: hondo68 (#49)
He's been pumped full of toxic vaccines, it's the best he can do now.
#51. To: Jameson (#32)
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