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Title: George W. Bush says Russia meddled in 2016 US election
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URL Source: https://www.apnews.com/fb98faa8f69b ... ia-meddled-in-2016-US-election
Published: Feb 8, 2018
Author: Jon Gambrell
Post Date: 2018-02-08 08:18:57 by IbJensen
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ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Former President George W. Bush said on Thursday that “there’s pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled” in the 2016 American presidential election, forcefully rebutting fellow Republican Donald Trump’s denials of Moscow trying to affect the vote. While never mentioning President Trump by name, Bush appeared to be pushing back on Trump’s attempts to have warmer relations with Russia, as well as his comments on immigration. The White House did not immediately comment on Bush’s remarks. “There’s pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled,” Bush said at a talk in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates. “Whether they affected the outcome is another question.” Bush also said that “it’s problematic that a foreign nation is involved in our election system. Our democracy is only as good as people trust the results.” U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded Russia meddled in the 2016 election to help Trump win. Numerous investigations are under way to determine whether Trump’s campaign aided the Kremlin in its efforts. Trump has repeatedly denied any “collusion” with Russia. Speaking of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Bush called him “zero-sum.” “He’s got a chip on his shoulder,” Bush said of Putin. “The reason he does is because of the demise of the Soviet Union troubles him. Therefore, much of his moves (are) to regain Soviet hegemony.” Bush also stressed the need to back NATO and other alliances the U.S. has with the world. Putin “is pushing, constantly pushing, probing weaknesses,” the former president said. “That’s why NATO is very important.” Bush also criticized Trump’s decision to scrap a program implemented by former President Barack Obama’s administration that allows young immigrants living in the U.S. illegally who were brought here as children to remain in America. “America’s their home,” the 43rd American president said. “They’ve got to get it fixed.” Bush acknowledged that he tried to overhaul America’s “broken” immigration system, but failed. “There are people willing to do jobs that Americans won’t do,” he said. “Americans don’t want to pick cotton at 105 degrees (Fahrenheit), but there are people who want put food on their family’s tables and are willing to do that. We ought to say thank you and welcome them.” Bush in 2008 became the first sitting U.S. president to visit the UAE. He spoke Thursday at a summit in Abu Dhabi put on by the Milken Institute, an economic think tank based in California. He made his comments while in a conversation with Michael Milken, known as the king of high-risk “junk” bonds in the 1980s. Milken pleaded guilty to securities-law violations in 1990 and served 22 months in prison. He agreed in a settlement with the SEC to a lifetime ban from the securities industry and paid a $200 million fine. Milken, who is a prostate cancer survivor, and his family have given hundreds of millions of dollars away in recent decades. Forbes magazine estimates Milken, 71, is now worth some $3.6 billion. Poster Comment: W is a bumbling, fumbling oaf who has no damned business bloviating abroad and doing a 'real' president's business. W is a traitor! However, even W is lying when he said the Russians interfered.
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If it's true then give me an address in Moscow where to send a thankyou note for saving us from having the Bush Crime Family inflict Yeb on us. Having the (D)rumpf Circus train roll through the swamp will, in the end, have been an instructional leg of the journey towards restoring the American Republic.
P.S. I'm pretty sure Vlad knows who the Bolsheviks are too, Dubya - You Molochian Neo-Con dominionist crypto-dipshyte!
Why won't that stupid son of a bitch die and give this nation some relief?
Another Democrat/Communist Party member will step up and take her place.
Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.
Der Donnell was much quicker about it, and dubya can't dance!
Does this dim bulb actually think people still pick cotton by hand? What a maroon.
Does this dim bulb actually think people still pick cotton by hand? Automatic cotton pickers became widely available for cotton picking in the 50's. My guess is he was referring to agricultural harvesting in general. The more important issue is, that I wonder if he realizes how agricultural workers get their jobs. These jobs are not advertised. The subcontractors want to hire illegals because these folks are not likely to cause trouble over many working issues that are law. It's word of mouth strictly to get these jobs. It's not that Americans don't want to do it; they just don't have much opportunity to do it.
Well, back circa 1985, the football coach said "who wants to detassle this summer". That how it worked when I and other college kids were doing a job few folks would want to do. Never saw any illegal immigrants being used in the corn fields of Nebraska those summers. Never had any "working issues" to complain about, either. What sort of "working issues" do they complain about these days?
Until the subcontrators are held accountable, the ants will keep coming to the sugar bowl.
I helped a guy I worked for on his farm one day. Bailing hay. I didn't like it because in made snot run out of my nose, and I sneezed a lot. I must be allergic to the pollen or something.
Senator McCain only pays them $50 an hour to pick lettuce?
Pollen or hay dust maybe. I worked at a horse therapy center cleaning up paddocks. Dry and windy/dusty days were always snotty. Just got used to it after a while. Some folk have more severe allergies that would make it dangerous for them to be there at all... and if that's the case, they'd need to choose some environment more compatible with their genome. Detasling corn was hot, humid, muddy, physically demanding labor. Still, can't imagine complaining about any of that. It goes with the job. It'd be like working at a ski resort and then complaining that snow is slippery and cold.
I'm 57, I could still do it. McStain, the Admiral's Son, never worked a day in his life.
I did carpentry and such for these two brothers. They also had a hay farm. They were ultra liberals by the way. I liked them even though we had differences in politics. Sometimes I pushed their buttons. This was in the Clinton Era. One even had a cat named Hillary. Yes after the bitch.
I'd settle for him keeping his damned mouth shut! Now we understand that there is a warmth and coziness between the Bushes and the Clintons and the Obozos. Bush I and II were examples of the two corrupted parties offering us 'Poison' or 'Poison Lite'. Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.
Once upon a time America was like that. I worked for an engineering & construction company back circa 1989 that had all kinds of people - libs, conservatives, Rs, Ds, Mormons, Catholics, Lutherans. Everybody talked about everything and nobody ever got fired unless they weren't performing their job. Different world today. Snowflakes become predatory when they have sufficient numbers. Conform to the hive-culture, or else.
no child lefT behind LefTisT sTooge Born again bolshevik Maga If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
Ab-so-freakin-lutely spot on! That this bumbling idiotic globalist sock-puppet became President (R) is embarrassing. But hey -- could have also been Jeb ("PLEASE CLAP") Bush as well. That's a great tagline, btw. Merely 3 years ago it would have gotten you banned at FR. But then you got banned in any case ;-) (Exactly what DID you get banned for??)
What's this "Drumpf" BS parroting from the DU/Huffpo/Hitlery Cult underworld??? Wanna explain?
He's in pretty good shape. The NWO Globalist Cabal plan on rolling Dubya out as needed to help sabotage Trump and his America First agenda any way they can. Personally I believe it's backfiring. Anyone with a brain knows W is obviously a treasonous, alcoholic clown.
www.google.com/search? q=friedrich+drumpf+brothel Common knowledge.
You are promulgating a conspiracy theory.
What a maroon. Dunno who ok's Dubya's public statements, but the one above may be one his dopiest. I don't think Dubya ever matured mentally past 18-19 yo. I presume he hits the sauce VERY hard (you saw a drunken giddy Dubya being disciplined by a sober Mooch at that funeral, right?) The guy possesses all the gravitas of a George Costanza walking out of a bathroom at a party minus his shirt.
Your sense of propriety is warped.
He does it by emerging out of the shadows and being a dumbazz, doesn't he? W doesn't need MY help...
I wouldn't bet on that. He's a dumbass, totally out of touch with the real world. Maybe even more so than Trump.
overtime pay and safety mostly. Although, they mostly hire people who won't complain and pay them under the table. Anyway, the subcontractors won't hire anybody is who likely to complain at all.
I've wondered if he's back on the sauce, maybe quietly drinking himself to death while he paints those really awful paintings of various military vets he was responsible for maiming during his illegal and unfounded war on the people of Iraq.
Nah, naming a whore house "The Poodle Dog" like Grandpa Drumpf - that's warped: Poodles like LGBT Prince Jwad seem to be enjoying the amenities of the kennel, however.
Aw geez...He's been doing painting of VETS?? Yeah -- oh, the irony. Sends them to a fake war for fake reasons...All of what you say is true. Hard not to know the guy hits the torpedo-juice hard. But let's be honest -- Dubya was just a sock-puppet. He had NO idea WTH was going on or had an inkling what policies or agenda he was signing off on. Unlike Trump who is hands on on quite a bit...
Ok, let's hear this...
Yeah, sounds like the subcontractors need to be held accountable. My wife grew up on a family farm. Overtime? LOL. If corporate parasites, their Subcontractors, and their methods of doing bidness are held accountable - the family farming models that won WWII and survived until the 80's might actually become practical again -- Much to the chagrine of the social engineers who milk the city hive like a cash cow.
Furthermore, it would be irrational not to consider that family bidness in context of the associated historical bidness model described by Solzhenitsyn:
Well, it appears you you may be still be right about this. There is no standard, as far as I can tell, about wages agricultural laborers have to be paid. Still, the employees pay no taxes on their earnings. I had worse jobs when I was a young man. How would these folks like to cut right of ways through snake and insect infested woods? At least in a tobacco field, you don't have a nest of wasps as big as watermelons stinging and chasing you.
Abu Dhabi? I guess his pimp daddies called him home. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I sincerely believe he maxed out at the 12 year old level.
Most farmers LOVE Dims because it was and is the Dims who give them all that farm welfare money to not plant crops or cut timber. A local farmer ran for county commissioner a few years back on a "I am going back on spending because the government gives too much money away!" platform. He had to drop out before the election when it was revealed he was pulling in more than a million bucks each year in Farm Aid programs to NOT grow crops. Pretty much every big farmer you see these days is a Millionaire Marxist that rants and raves about welfare,but oddly enough doesn't see the land band and timber bank programs as welfare for the wealthy. Go figure,huh? In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Of course there is. They are all whores being pimped out by the same people,and in the cases of Boy Jorge and Bathhouse Barry,used to bending over and grabbing their ankles for extra spending money. Muslims may love to hump goats,but even most Muslims wouldn't hump Bubbette! In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Not to mention a coke head homosexual with severe emotional problems because he is also a fundie Christian homo. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
True,he was just doing what his mama told him to do. Babs is the evil mastermind in that family. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Never going to happen. For one thing,there is no such critter as a family farm anymore. They are all corporate farms. Some/most of the bigger ones are owned by majority stockholders who have never farmed a day in their lives,unless you consider picking stocks to be farming cash. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
My wife has cousins who still farm. None of the small milking operations like she grew up on are still operating though. The local corporate cheese factory refused to deal with anyone not having some minimum number of cow. All the little guys got driven out of business.
Yup,they either incorporated,or they were taxed out of existence. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
At least the Bolshevik corporatists didn't openly starve 6-10 million Kulacs to death this time. Yet.
You may be right; I was just giving the dolt the benefit of doubt.
Yet. "Yet". Glad to see you included the key word. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Yes, of course. FR's JR also called the cokehead part right early and often. It wasn't until later on that we all added 2+2 on the homo-alky portion, a W who seemed emotionally stunted or abused. ... because he is also a fundie Christian homo. Now why must you go here with the "Christian fundie" crap? Firstly, I can't say I know what Dubya's faith was/is, but he or his handlers wanted to portray him as a Christian. As a matter of political expediency. Secondly, THE USA is now a chaotic mess, bereft of any moral or ethical standards; insanely confused, divided and Balkinized... So why is that? It appears we CAN thank the militant Atheists and secular humanist crowds who've been major advocates to turn the entire USA into San Francisco. They've managed to normaliz moral relativity and depravity, justified pathological lying, making the entire Dem Party Communist, and half the (R) Party lying globalist whores... It appears we can also thank/blame the militant Atheists and humanist crowds for normalizing trannies and rife faggotry; for feminizing boys; for dressing up their children as mini-trannies; For criminalizing and slandering "whites"; for instituting "Hate Speech & Crimes"; for rewarding "victims," the petty and small, bullies, and big mouths who won't respect privacy or free speech; for normalizing the hatred of LE and a patriotic military; for normalizing subversion throughout a formerly polite society as militant Atheists/secular humanists have attempted to drive out Christians, and you know -- those you hate, "Fundies" -- from the Public Square. You've sown it, now you get to reap its aftermath. WOO-HOO!! So as your ilk insist on cheering on the demonizing and driving out Christians, whose philosophical descendants were our Founders, our nation's moderating influence upon morality and ethics in the USA (we've seen how that's worked out in Muslim-owned Europe) will disappear into the dark fog. Institutions and society will continue to crumble before our very eyes and devolve into mega-chaos, division, and confusion. And then something horrible will fill the void.
Babs is the evil mastermind in that family. I also believe this is largely true. You wonder why no book has been written on the subject? Of all the First Ladies, Babs has been the most mysterious by far. And frankly, suspect.
And maybe some nose candy also ??? Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)
He probably does not know where he shit last, or even if he did. Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)
Now why must you go here with the "Christian fundie" crap? Because "there" is what lead to the guilt which lead to the drunkenness and drug use. You can't be a fundie Christian who is a homosexual and not have emotional problems. Just being a homosexual is an emotional problem all by itself. Add the stress of "Ahma gonna go to HELL!" to the equation,and it's a slam dunk. It appears we CAN thank the militant Atheists and secular humanist crowds who've been major advocates to turn the entire USA into San Francisco. ROFLMAO! Blame you God for homosexuality. People are born homosexual,just like people are born heterosexual,or even asexual. According to the Bible Thumpers,we are all made in God's image,so blame him. So as your ilk insist on cheering on the demonizing and driving out Christians, whose philosophical descendants were our Founders, HorseHillary! A lot of the original settlers came her to escape the religious police states established in Europe. You know,people like "your ilk" that terrorized Europe for centuries with their religious courts and executions for heresy. The truth is nobody can make anybody a homosexual. You are either born with homosexual inclinations,or you're not. Nobody is born a superstitious fool,though. That has to be learned. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I can only guess of the fear of lawsuits from people with virtually bottomless pockets that are friends with or have control over judges I believe Boy Jorge's wife is his personal handler. She is as much of a One World leftie as Babs is,and we are supposed to believe this quiet and shy librarian just happened to hook up with a raging drunk and coke head,and then marry him. A raging drunk and cokehead mind you that apparently never even had a date with a female before he hooked up with her? The entire Bush Crime Family is populated with borderline idiot weak males,and strong,intelligent women. How and why all this isn't obvious to anyone remains a constant mystery to me. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Babs is the evil mastermind in that family. She's no mastermind and never has been. Her range of awareness consists of maintaing a personal climate of mindless blandness and performing good table manners. Beyond that, people create a fantasy comforting personality for her. I've met quite a few like her in my time. In how many years I've never heard anyone in that entire family say anything intelligent or incisive. They just smile and follow the good manners rulebook.
In how many years I've never heard anyone in that entire family say anything intelligent or incisive. Yet they all manage to stay out of prison while getting elected to high offices and getting richer and richer each year. Babs is the power behind the throne,and Laura is second in command. Believe it. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Yet they all manage to stay out of prison while getting elected to high offices and getting richer and richer each year. That's because the people who elect them are stupider than they are. W failed at everything he tried for years before running for office. The two women didn't rescue him. Charity did, along with a long bout with the bottle, until he could run for office under the name Bush. None of those people had ever done a God damned thing in their lives.
I find it especially satisfying to hear so many proud members of the gop/right wing/conservative originalist tribe vehemently bad-mouthing your own. From the WH to the local trustee, you folks on the right are just never satisfied. I'm really looking forward to the day (soon) when you all begin to realize that nearly everyone you're willing to defend today - are in reality doing essentially the opposite of what you expect them to do. You've been used - again. Enjoy The good news is: it's 2018 and the mid-term elections are about 9 months away......... "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
And Trump's approval is four points higher then the Muslim baby murderers approval was at the same time period. I expect more Democrat suicides. In fact I look forward to them.
Based on a single poll - From RealClearPolitics: On Thursday the president had a 42.3 percent average approval rating, according to Real Clear Politics, versus 47.9 percent approval for Obama on Feb. 8, 2010. "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -
Big Deal! We do it all the time. The United States Hypocrisy On ‘Political Intervention’ In Elections and al lthe time we ghout he was a clueless gaffing ass.
Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.
He is. He just goes where his mama or his wife,his mama's assistant,tell him to go,and he says what they tell him to say. I honestly think that if left to run his own life,he would be a pretty nice guy. He's weak,though,and his mama ain't. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
This clown gets confused when it comes to agriculture. Cows aren't planted, for example, they're grown. And it's a damned good thing there are no homosexuals among livestock. Although there are documented cases of homosexuals attempting sex acts on animals. For example, about a decade ago outside of San Francissyco, a special farm was operated for purposes of catering to the SF wierdos. One of the members who was eager to have sex with a stallion was ripped apart by the animal's large member and then he was crushed when the stallion fell on him after the unusual sex act. Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.
All that homo talk... along with farm animals. You're gonna get the snowflakes excited.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Our pervs are pretty bad but the EU has a real problem with animal bordellos. The internet is responsible for connecting up all these pervs and lots of other perv types. Surprises me that PETA and others haven't ever gone with this angle for fundraising but maybe they're a little suspect themselves.
Because "there" is what lead to the guilt which lead to the drunkenness and drug use. You're speculating. Bad speculation at that. No one actually truly knows what W believes. Maybe W's drunkenness and drug use is all about being a spoiled brat, never being taught the price for being selfish, irresponsible and stupid. His "guilt" could be for a thousand different things; We all carry some degree of guilt, but we don't act and do what he does, do we? You can't be a fundie Christian who is a homosexual and not have emotional problems. Just being a homosexual is an emotional problem all by itself. Add the stress of "Ahma gonna go to HELL!" to the equation,and it's a slam dunk. As you note in your second sentence, being a queer creates emotional problems on its own. No "fundie Christian" faith needed. There are plenty of reasons, "Ahma gonna go to HELL!" other than practicing homosexuality. Moreover, IF one is "stressed" over a sin, doesn't that tell you one *knows* it's wrong? A lot of the original settlers came her to escape the religious police states established in Europe. You know,people like "your ilk" that terrorized Europe for centuries with their religious courts and executions for heresy. I don't have time or patience to re-repeat actual history instead of humoring your constant revisionist fantasy BS. The truth is nobody can make anybody a homosexual. You are either born with homosexual inclinations,or you're not. In SOME cases I'd agree with you; But YES, homosexuals CAN be created. Either by early childhood abuse, predatory grooming of the weak; indoctrination and brainwashing by the power of suggestion; trendy encouragement for the "curious" and bored; sexual narcissism; JAIL; or as a result of a combo or ALL of the above. Nobody is born a superstitious fool,though. That has to be learned. And yet you still reject what 95% of all people believe innately; That there IS some Power or God greater than us, that man has always worshiped it. Even Satanists of Occultists know that there are unseen forces that exist. Btw, you claim to be "agnostic," which means you are unsure of whether there is or is not a God. Is that your position? Because agnosticism would still make you "superstitious". To be totally un-superstitious you would have to declare yourself, "Atheist."
You do realize that there are a number of cases of identical twins (same exact DNA) in which one became homosexual and the other didn't.
Could be. Or maybe they fear being ostracized, threatened or blackmailed. It is after all the Bush Crime Family. I believe Boy Jorge's wife is his personal handler. She is as much of a One World leftie as Babs is,and we are supposed to believe this quiet and shy librarian... I don't believe Babs Jr. is his handler. She is a vacuous Stepford Wife with severe problems of her own. Like her own beverage problem. A gay hubby. And other personal stuff... W's handlers probably seem to be many, which is why he's lost his own identity. His speculative homosexuality would be one reason he can be controlled or manipulated so easily. The entire Bush Crime Family is populated with borderline idiot weak males,and strong,intelligent women. How and why all this isn't obvious to anyone remains a constant mystery to me. Yes, the males all seem to lack intelligence and integrity. Babs Sr. seems to run the roost. Jeb and W are also subservient.
I think Pete's context may be that Babs Sr has the Final Word with Poppy. I agree -- her function is to help with the "table manners" and likely very skilled at small talk requires in her circles. Once she went out of her way to criticize Sarah Palin, her mask flew off, exposing what is a nasty, elite side.
True. The Bushes were also helped financially by the Saudi Family. And by fellow Globalists. Dubya wasn't qualified to run a Yard Sale.
That's because The Bushes and McCains are NOT, and were NEVER "our own." You see -- unlike you Leftist-Dem zombies, WE are allowed Free-Speech, REAL opinions, and standards. How does it feel to be prisoner within your own Party/Cult?
Even the skewed poll reflect the opinion of most of the American people that they trust REPUBLICANS far more on the issues of the economy, security, terror, confidence, and every which way. Too bad the Dems offer NOTHING. Nothing that is but negativity, hate, complaining, victimhood, tribalism, immorality and unethical behavior. Nice agenda ya got there.
BwaaHaahaa...
Fake poll numbers for a treasonous Prez who took a wrecking ball to America. Got it. How did those poll numbers work out for your on Nov 7, 2016? *snicker*
No,it was Prince,later King,Abdullah from Saudi Arabia that rescued him from bankruptcy by buying out the oil bidnez his family had set him up in,and in addition giving him a 6 figure no-show consulting contract to boot. THAT's where he got the money to buy the Texas Rangers and become known and liked by Texas voters. The two women didn't rescue him. You are right! Boy Jorge is such a brainiac that he clearly understood things so well he didn't need any advise,huh? After all if there is one thing that Boy Jorge is known for,other than homosexuality,that is,it is being a genius! Charity did, along with a long bout with the bottle, until he could run for office under the name Bush. Yeah,and Babs had nothing to do with drying him out,and it's just incidental he married Laura,the woman who seems to have been the ONLY woman he ever dated,and has managed all on his own to stay sober and to keep his nose out of ziplock bags ever since,huh? After all,he is a brilliant man and doesn't need a babysitter/keeper,right> Not to mention "beard" before going into politics. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Haahaaaa...
Ignorance reeeeaaaaaly is bliss.
That's because unlike you leftie mama's boys,we are adults who strive for better,not more of the same. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
That's always something to look forward to hearing about. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Yeah,but just imagine how much higher it would be if he were using taxpayer money to buy and give everyone new cell phones and a bucket of chicken wings! In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Big Deal! We do it all the time. ALL nations do it all the time. That is part of the job of every government. Pretty telling that this is news to Boy Jorge,isn't it? You almost have to wonder if his handlers ever tried to explain anything to him. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I would be willing to bet that he thinks water is wet,when he is having a good day. I don't have time or patience to re-repeat actual history instead of humoring your constant revisionist fantasy BS. YOU actually believer there is a God and the Bible is his word,and DARE to imply anyone else is foolish? THERE is some irony for you! Btw, you claim to be "agnostic," which means you are unsure of whether there is or is not a God. Is that your position? Because agnosticism would still make you "superstitious". To be totally un-superstitious you would have to declare yourself, "Atheist." The only thing that could have been lamer would be if you had written "neener,neener". In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Yes,but you don't seem to be able to recognize they are two different people,not the same one twice. Hell,some twins are composed of a male baby and a female baby. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Which was never buried very deeply. After all,doesn't she come from Trust Fund money herself? I know that Boy Jorge's granddaddy married into the Harriman Family. Didn't Babs come from a similar background? BTW,I used to know this stuff,but forgot after Boy Jorge left office. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Ignorance reeeeaaaaaly is bliss. No kidding. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Yup, no doubt; W was never the sharpest knife in the drawer. Now that he's been told he can "go out and play!", that's never been more clear. YOU actually believer there is a God and the Bible is his word,and DARE to imply anyone else is foolish? THERE is some irony for you! Your words not mine. I'm just reminding you that when you use the word, "superstitious," statistically and historically, man has vastly believed in a Greater Power than he. That's from Babylonian times till now. And again FWIW, it is as a result of Western Judeo-Christian philosophy which extolled the Bibles virtues that we'd advanced in all ways -- including liberty and freedom -- that we're even having this convo. OR an "America" to begin with. Historically, yes some things went off the rails. (And people still stray from "WWJD?") But that's only because evil acts were authorized through the Vatican, power-plays done "in the name of Jesus Christ" usurping his "authority" -- which were NOT what he preached or been sanctioned by Jesus himself. To be honest and fair about history, you must note that distinction. Serious question. You've claimed to be "agnostic" -- I'm not trying to bust your balls. Are you one or just an Atheist? There IS a difference.
I think you're right; Right -- Babs Sr was always an elitist. So naturally she's hate a Sarah Palin for having the audacity to govern with Middle Class upbringing.
I noticed this week that that son of a Dem state senator who guessed Palin's Yahoo email password (actually he guessed it by correctly answering her email recovery questions) and hijacked her emails did serve a year or so in prison. He went to school and (the account claims) rehabilitated himself wonderfully. Gloriously even. Yeah, right. Anyway, he had come down with MS a few years ago and he died at age 30 last week. Off-topic but you know what a sucker I am for the followup story. I think I'm turning into Paul Harvey with a "Rest Of The Story" fetish. I almost crave that closure to a story. Anyway, that chapter of the Palin saga is now written so I am satisfied. : )
Yes,but you don't seem to be able to recognize they are two different people,not the same one twice. I said IDENTICAL twins. These are not composed of a male and a female. Yes they are 2 different people. The point is that they are not that way caused by DNA reasons. There is a difference between identical twins and fraternal twins.
Anyway, he had come down with MS a few years ago and he died at age 30 last week. Wow. On several counts. (Imagine the outrage had a Pubbie son done the same to say Uncle Joe? To these people NOTHING is sacred. Yup, except all the Marxist/Satanic Pillars.) Off-topic but you know what a sucker I am for the followup story. I think I'm turning into Paul Harvey with a "Rest Of The Story" fetish. I almost crave that closure to a story. Anyway, that chapter of the Palin saga is now written so I am satisfied. : ) You knew I'd like this kind of off-beat stuff. Who else can I depend on to close an open bookend like this ;-) Yup, slammed shut. But spooky. And ironic. (LOVED Paul Harvey too btw.)
Yes they are 2 different people. Even so-called Identical Twins are two different people with different personalities. "Identical" is just a handy visual tag. Nothing more. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Sneak a Weiner is all in in the faggot victimhood movement. Call it a character flaw or maybe he is in the closet. Talking to him about homosexuals is about as fruitful as talking to Rosie the donut about it.
If they are different, it is caused by different environments. So if one is a fag and the other is not, it blows the idea that people are fags because of genetics to hell.
Do you even read the brain farts you write? Is it possible you have never even known any twins? In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
You are just wrong and too dumb to realize it, so I am finished. Identical twins have the exact same DNA. You can't even seem to be able to grasp such a simple concept.
And you can't seem to grasp the fact that DNA are building blocks,not a CPU. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
DNA is what what representative of a person's genetics. So if one identical twin is a fag and the other is not, obviously something other than genetics is causing it. Sorry to disparage you chosen lifestyle, but that's just the way it is.
That's ok. We heterosexuals are used to being attacked by closeted homos these days. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Yes WE are, big boy.
#2. To: IbJensen (#0)
(Edited)
#3. To: IbJensen (#0)
#4. To: rlk (#3)
#5. To: IbJensen, Saudi Night Fever, *Arab Spring Jihad* (#0)
Bush in 2008 became the first sitting U.S. president to visit the UAE
#6. To: IbJensen (#0)
“There are people willing to do jobs that Americans won’t do,” he said. “Americans don’t want to pick cotton at 105 degrees (Fahrenheit), but there are people who want put food on their family’s tables and are willing to do that. We ought to say thank you and welcome them.”
#7. To: Tooconservative (#6)
“There are people willing to do jobs that Americans won’t do,” he said. “Americans don’t want to pick cotton at 105 degrees (Fahrenheit), but there are people who want put food on their family’s tables and are willing to do that. We ought to say thank you and welcome them.”
#8. To: no gnu taxes (#7)
(Edited)
how agricultural workers get their jobs.
#9. To: no gnu taxes (#7)
The subcontractors want to hire illegals
#10. To: VxH (#8)
What sort of "working issues" do they complain about these days?
#11. To: VxH, Reconquista Republicans (#8)
What sort of "working issues" do they complain about these days?
#12. To: A K A Stone (#10)
(Edited)
I must be allergic to the pollen or something.
#13. To: hondo68 (#11)
(Edited)
#14. To: VxH (#12)
#15. To: rlk (#3)
#16. To: A K A Stone (#14)
I liked them even though we had differences in politics.
#17. To: IbJensen (#0)
boris
#18. To: IbJensen (#0)
W is a bumbling, fumbling oaf who has no damned business bloviating abroad and doing a 'real' president's business. W is a traitor! However, even W is lying when he said the Russians interfered.
#19. To: VxH (#1)
#20. To: rlk (#3)
Why won't that stupid son of a bitch die and give this nation some relief?
#21. To: Liberator (#19)
(Edited)
#22. To: Liberator (#20)
The NWO Globalist Cabal plan on rolling Dubya out as needed to help sabotage Trump and his America First agenda any way they can.
#23. To: Tooconservative (#6)
Does this dim bulb actually think people still pick cotton by hand?
#24. To: VxH (#21)
#25. To: buckeroo (#22)
#26. To: no gnu taxes (#7)
Automatic cotton pickers became widely available for cotton picking in the 50's. My guess is he was referring to agricultural harvesting in general.
#27. To: VxH (#8)
What sort of "working issues" do they complain about these days?
#28. To: Liberator (#23)
I presume he hits the sauce VERY hard (you saw a drunken giddy Dubya being disciplined by a sober Mooch at that funeral, right?)
#29. To: Liberator (#24)
Your sense of propriety is warped.
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"A 22-year-old Frederick opened a 24-hour establishment called the Poodle Dog in Seattle’s red light district…"
http://metro.co.uk/2016/10/20/donald-trumps-fortune-is-built-on- money-from-prostitutes-and-brothels-6203104"
#30. To: Tooconservative (#28)
#31. To: Tooconservative (#26)
(Edited)
...out of touch with the real world. Maybe even more so than Trump.
#32. To: no gnu taxes (#27)
(Edited)
Anyway, the subcontractors won't hire anybody is who likely to complain at all.
#33. To: Liberator (#24)
"in its refusal to allow distillation, the Committee explained: “As long as this profession remains accessible to them… which, in the end, exposes them to the recriminations, contempt, and even hatred of inhabitants, the general outcry towards them will not cease..."
--Alexandre Isayevich Solzhenitsyn
200 Years Togeher: Chapter 2. During the Reign of Alexander 1st
#34. To: VxH (#32)
(Edited)
My wife grew up on a family farm. Overtime? LOL.
#35. To: IbJensen (#0)
“There’s pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled,” Bush said at a talk in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates.
#36. To: Liberator (#23)
I don't think Dubya ever matured mentally past 18-19 yo.
#37. To: A K A Stone (#14)
I did carpentry and such for these two brothers. They also had a hay farm. They were ultra liberals by the way. I liked them even though we had differences in politics. Sometimes I pushed their buttons. This was in the Clinton Era. One even had a cat named Hillary. Yes after the bitch.
#38. To: IbJensen (#15)
Now we understand that there is a warmth and coziness between the Bushes and the Clintons and the Obozos.
#39. To: Liberator (#20)
Anyone with a brain knows W is obviously a treasonous, alcoholic clown.
#40. To: Liberator (#30)
But let's be honest -- Dubya was just a sock-puppet. He had NO idea WTH was going on or had an inkling what policies or agenda he was signing off on.
#41. To: VxH (#32)
If corporate parasites, their Subcontractors, and their methods of doing bidness are held accountable - the family farming models that won WWII and survived until the 80's might actually become practical again -- Much to the chagrine of the social engineers who milk the city hive like a cash cow.
#42. To: sneakypete (#41)
(Edited)
For one thing,there is no such critter as a family farm anymore.
#43. To: VxH (#42)
The local corporate cheese factory refused to deal with anyone not having some minimum number of cow. All the little guys got driven out of business.
#44. To: sneakypete (#43)
#45. To: rlk (#36)
I sincerely believe he maxed out at the 12 year old level.
#46. To: VxH (#44)
At least the Bolshevik corporatists didn't openly starve 6-10 million Kulacs to death this time.
#47. To: sneakypete (#39)
Not to mention a coke head homosexual with severe emotional problems...
#48. To: sneakypete (#40)
(Edited)
True,he was just doing what his mama told him to do.
#49. To: Liberator (#30)
" the guy hits the torpedo-juice hard. "
#50. To: Tooconservative (#26)
" He's a dumbass, totally out of touch with the real world. "
#51. To: Liberator (#47)
... because he is also a fundie Christian homo.
#52. To: Liberator (#48)
You wonder why no book has been written on the subject?
#53. To: sneakypete, liberator (#40)
True,he was just doing what his mama told him to do.
#54. To: rlk (#53)
She's no mastermind and never has been. Her range of awareness consists of maintaing a personal climate of mindless blandness and performing good table manners. Beyond that, people create a fantasy comforting personality for her. I've met quite a few like her in my time.
#55. To: sneakypete (#54)
In how many years I've never heard anyone in that entire family say anything intelligent or incisive.
#56. To: IbJensen (#0)
W is a bumbling, fumbling oaf who has no damned business bloviating abroad and doing a 'real' president's business. W is a traitor!
#57. To: Jameson (#56)
The good news is: it's 2018 and the mid-term elections are about 9 months away....
#58. To: A K A Stone (#57)
Trump's approval is four points higher
#59. To: IbJensen (#0)
Former President George W. Bush said on Thursday that “there’s pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled” in the 2016 American presidential election
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#60. To: sneakypete (#35)
#61. To: IbJensen (#60)
and al lthe time we ghout he was a clueless gaffing ass.
#62. To: Tooconservative (#6)
#63. To: IbJensen (#62)
#64. To: GrandIsland (#63)
All that homo talk... along with farm animals. You're gonna get the snowflakes excited.
#65. To: sneakypete (#51)
(Now why must you go here with the "Christian fundie" crap?
#66. To: sneakypete (#51)
People are born homosexual,just like people are born heterosexual,or even asexual.
#67. To: sneakypete (#52)
I can only guess of the fear of lawsuits from people with virtually bottomless pockets that are friends with or have control over judges
#68. To: rlk, sneakypete (#53)
She's no mastermind and never has been. Her range of awareness consists of maintaing a personal climate of mindless blandness and performing good table manners. Beyond that, people create a fantasy comforting personality for her. I've met quite a few like her in my time.
#69. To: rlk (#55)
W failed at everything he tried for years before running for office. The two women didn't rescue him. Charity did, along with a long bout with the bottle, until he could run for office under the name Bush. None of those people had ever done a God damned thing in their lives.
#70. To: Jameson, IbJensen (#56)
(Edited)
I find it especially satisfying to hear so many proud members of the gop/right wing/conservative originalist tribe vehemently bad-mouthing your own.
#71. To: Jameson (#56)
The good news is: it's 2018 and the mid-term elections are about 9 months away.........
#72. To: A K A Stone, Jameson (#57)
And Trump's approval is four points higher then the Muslim baby murderers approval was at the same time period.
#73. To: Jameson, A K A Stone (#58)
#74. To: rlk (#55)
That's because the people who elect them are stupider than they are. W failed at everything he tried for years before running for office. The two women didn't rescue him.
#75. To: GrandIsland (#63)
#76. To: Tooconservative (#64)
Our pervs are pretty bad but the EU has a real problem with animal bordellos.
#77. To: Jameson (#56)
From the WH to the local trustee, you folks on the right are just never satisfied.
#78. To: A K A Stone (#57)
I expect more Democrat suicides. In fact I look forward to them.
#79. To: Jameson (#58)
On Thursday the president had a 42.3 percent average approval rating, according to Real Clear Politics, versus 47.9 percent approval for Obama on Feb. 8, 2010.
#80. To: Deckard (#59)
Former President George W. Bush said on Thursday that “there’s pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled” in the 2016 American presidential election
#81. To: Liberator (#65)
You're speculating. Bad speculation at that. No one actually truly knows what W believes.
#82. To: no gnu taxes (#66)
You do realize that there are a number of cases of identical twins (same exact DNA) in which one became homosexual and the other didn't.
#83. To: Liberator (#68)
Once she went out of her way to criticize Sarah Palin, her mask flew off, exposing what is a nasty, elite side.
#84. To: Liberator (#76)
Our pervs are pretty bad but the EU has a real problem with animal bordellos.
#85. To: sneakypete (#81)
#86. To: sneakypete (#83)
I know that Boy Jorge's granddaddy married into the Harriman Family. Didn't Babs come from a similar background?
#87. To: Liberator (#86)
So naturally she's hate a Sarah Palin for having the audacity to govern with Middle Class upbringing.
#88. To: sneakypete (#82)
You do realize that there are a number of cases of identical twins (same exact DNA) in which one became homosexual and the other didn't.
#89. To: Tooconservative (#87)
I noticed this week that that son of a Dem state senator who guessed Palin's Yahoo email password (actually he guessed it by correctly answering her email recovery questions) and hijacked her emails did serve a year or so in prison. He went to school and (the account claims) rehabilitated himself wonderfully. Gloriously even. Yeah, right.
#90. To: no gnu taxes (#88)
I said IDENTICAL twins. These are not composed of a male and a female.
#91. To: no gnu taxes (#88)
#92. To: sneakypete (#90)
Even so-called Identical Twins are two different people with different personalities.
#93. To: no gnu taxes (#92)
If they are different, it is caused by different environments. So if one is a fag and the other is not, it blows the idea that people are fags because of genetics to hell.
#94. To: sneakypete (#93)
#95. To: no gnu taxes (#94)
Identical twins have the exact same DNA. You can't even seem to be able to grasp such a simple concept.
#96. To: sneakypete (#95)
(Edited)
#97. To: no gnu taxes (#96)
Sorry to disparage you chosen lifestyle, but that's just the way it is.
#98. To: sneakypete (#97)
We heterosexuals are used to being attacked by closeted homos these days.
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