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Title: George W. Bush says Russia meddled in 2016 US election
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AP
URL Source: https://www.apnews.com/fb98faa8f69b ... ia-meddled-in-2016-US-election
Published: Feb 8, 2018
Author: Jon Gambrell
Post Date: 2018-02-08 08:18:57 by IbJensen
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Views: 3884
Comments: 98
ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Former President George W. Bush said on Thursday that “there’s pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled” in the 2016 American presidential election, forcefully rebutting fellow Republican Donald Trump’s denials of Moscow trying to affect the vote. While never mentioning President Trump by name, Bush appeared to be pushing back on Trump’s attempts to have warmer relations with Russia, as well as his comments on immigration. The White House did not immediately comment on Bush’s remarks. “There’s pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled,” Bush said at a talk in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates. “Whether they affected the outcome is another question.” Bush also said that “it’s problematic that a foreign nation is involved in our election system. Our democracy is only as good as people trust the results.” U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded Russia meddled in the 2016 election to help Trump win. Numerous investigations are under way to determine whether Trump’s campaign aided the Kremlin in its efforts. Trump has repeatedly denied any “collusion” with Russia. Speaking of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Bush called him “zero-sum.” “He’s got a chip on his shoulder,” Bush said of Putin. “The reason he does is because of the demise of the Soviet Union troubles him. Therefore, much of his moves (are) to regain Soviet hegemony.” Bush also stressed the need to back NATO and other alliances the U.S. has with the world. Putin “is pushing, constantly pushing, probing weaknesses,” the former president said. “That’s why NATO is very important.” Bush also criticized Trump’s decision to scrap a program implemented by former President Barack Obama’s administration that allows young immigrants living in the U.S. illegally who were brought here as children to remain in America. “America’s their home,” the 43rd American president said. “They’ve got to get it fixed.” Bush acknowledged that he tried to overhaul America’s “broken” immigration system, but failed. “There are people willing to do jobs that Americans won’t do,” he said. “Americans don’t want to pick cotton at 105 degrees (Fahrenheit), but there are people who want put food on their family’s tables and are willing to do that. We ought to say thank you and welcome them.” Bush in 2008 became the first sitting U.S. president to visit the UAE. He spoke Thursday at a summit in Abu Dhabi put on by the Milken Institute, an economic think tank based in California. He made his comments while in a conversation with Michael Milken, known as the king of high-risk “junk” bonds in the 1980s. Milken pleaded guilty to securities-law violations in 1990 and served 22 months in prison. He agreed in a settlement with the SEC to a lifetime ban from the securities industry and paid a $200 million fine. Milken, who is a prostate cancer survivor, and his family have given hundreds of millions of dollars away in recent decades. Forbes magazine estimates Milken, 71, is now worth some $3.6 billion. Poster Comment: W is a bumbling, fumbling oaf who has no damned business bloviating abroad and doing a 'real' president's business. W is a traitor! However, even W is lying when he said the Russians interfered.
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#6. To: IbJensen (#0)
Does this dim bulb actually think people still pick cotton by hand? What a maroon.
Does this dim bulb actually think people still pick cotton by hand? Automatic cotton pickers became widely available for cotton picking in the 50's. My guess is he was referring to agricultural harvesting in general. The more important issue is, that I wonder if he realizes how agricultural workers get their jobs. These jobs are not advertised. The subcontractors want to hire illegals because these folks are not likely to cause trouble over many working issues that are law. It's word of mouth strictly to get these jobs. It's not that Americans don't want to do it; they just don't have much opportunity to do it.
Well, back circa 1985, the football coach said "who wants to detassle this summer". That how it worked when I and other college kids were doing a job few folks would want to do. Never saw any illegal immigrants being used in the corn fields of Nebraska those summers. Never had any "working issues" to complain about, either. What sort of "working issues" do they complain about these days?
I helped a guy I worked for on his farm one day. Bailing hay. I didn't like it because in made snot run out of my nose, and I sneezed a lot. I must be allergic to the pollen or something.
Pollen or hay dust maybe. I worked at a horse therapy center cleaning up paddocks. Dry and windy/dusty days were always snotty. Just got used to it after a while. Some folk have more severe allergies that would make it dangerous for them to be there at all... and if that's the case, they'd need to choose some environment more compatible with their genome. Detasling corn was hot, humid, muddy, physically demanding labor. Still, can't imagine complaining about any of that. It goes with the job. It'd be like working at a ski resort and then complaining that snow is slippery and cold.
I did carpentry and such for these two brothers. They also had a hay farm. They were ultra liberals by the way. I liked them even though we had differences in politics. Sometimes I pushed their buttons. This was in the Clinton Era. One even had a cat named Hillary. Yes after the bitch.
Once upon a time America was like that. I worked for an engineering & construction company back circa 1989 that had all kinds of people - libs, conservatives, Rs, Ds, Mormons, Catholics, Lutherans. Everybody talked about everything and nobody ever got fired unless they weren't performing their job. Different world today. Snowflakes become predatory when they have sufficient numbers. Conform to the hive-culture, or else.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest “There are people willing to do jobs that Americans won’t do,” he said. “Americans don’t want to pick cotton at 105 degrees (Fahrenheit), but there are people who want put food on their family’s tables and are willing to do that. We ought to say thank you and welcome them.”
#7. To: Tooconservative (#6)
“There are people willing to do jobs that Americans won’t do,” he said. “Americans don’t want to pick cotton at 105 degrees (Fahrenheit), but there are people who want put food on their family’s tables and are willing to do that. We ought to say thank you and welcome them.”
#8. To: no gnu taxes (#7)
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how agricultural workers get their jobs.
#10. To: VxH (#8)
What sort of "working issues" do they complain about these days?
#12. To: A K A Stone (#10)
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I must be allergic to the pollen or something.
#14. To: VxH (#12)
#16. To: A K A Stone (#14)
I liked them even though we had differences in politics.
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