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Title: No, President Trump, It’s Not ‘Treasonous’ to Be Chill During the State of Union
Source: Reason
URL Source: https://reason.com/blog/2018/02/05/ ... nt-trump-its-not-treasonous-to
Published: Feb 5, 2018
Author: Robby Soave
Post Date: 2018-02-06 06:01:31 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 984
Comments: 22

During a speech at a factory in Ohio on Monday, President Trump called Democratic Congressmen "un-American" for failing to cheer enthusiastically during the State of the Union address last week. He even suggested that their behavior was "treasonous."

"You're up there, you've got half the room going totally crazy, wild, they love everything, they want to do something great for our country," said Trump, referring to his Republican supporters in Congress. "And you have the other side, even on positive news, really positive news… they were like death, and un-American."

Someone in the factory audience apparently called out "treasonous," which prompted Trump to respond, "Yeah, I guess, why not." Again, that was Trump casually affirming the idea that his political opponents had committed treason in failing to applaud him.

But treason has a specific definition: it involves levying war against the United States, or giving aid and comfort to its enemies. "Aid and comfort" means actually helping a declared enemy of the United States—by sending them money, leaking sensitive information to them, etc. Merely signaling dissent from, or disapproval of, the current commander-in-chief is not treason; if it was, members of the out-of-power political party would have no real means of challenging the president's agenda. Thankfully, the First Amendment guarantees everybody the right to criticize the government and its chief executive.

Trump's statement about treason echoes his previous comments in support of jailing flag burners and broadening the scope of libel laws. Rhetorically speaking, the president is no friend to free speech—he would clearly like to criminalize all kinds of anti-Trump political expression. Fortunately, Trump has not attempted to actualize his stated preference for censorship, and if he did, the Supreme Court would stop him.

In any case, Trump really shouldn't be too eager to broaden the public's definition of the word treason. Many on the left have accused Trump himself of treason because his campaign allegedly colluded with elements of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. Under the strict definition of treason, this doesn't count, since the U.S. remains formally at peace with Russia. The strict definition is vastly superior to the "yeah, I guess, why not" definition nonchalantly endorsed by Trump in his remarks today, even for the sake of Trump's own political interests.

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#12. To: Deckard, Fairy Jameson, (#0)

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-02-06   17:36:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#12)

Donald Trump says lack of applause from Democrats is treasonous

Yeah, in North Korea and Putin's Russia - it is treasonous to not rally behind the dear leader...

SH45 lives to be just like his fantasy boys...

this is your fault

Jameson  posted on  2018-02-06   18:59:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jameson (#13)

Donald Trump says lack of applause from Democrats is treasonous

Except that isn't exactly what Trump the great said.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-02-06   19:40:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone, Jameson (#14) (Edited)

Except that isn't exactly what Trump the great said.

EHRLICHMAN: Hot Pants.

DRUMPF: "Nya why not"

NIXON: Jeezuz Ch[CENSORED]

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The performance in that video (Msg #12) reiterates the pattern of being a thuggish clown who is unable to demonstrably articulate a worldview founded in fundamental American ideological precepts.

He and Rocket-boy have that in common, too.

VxH  posted on  2018-02-06   21:13:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: VxH (#15)

I know you preferred Hillary.

Trump doesn't hate Jews and catho!ics and ......,........................

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-02-07   2:39:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#16)

I know you preferred Hillary.

In Jail.

Is she?

VxH  posted on  2018-02-07   12:01:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: VxH (#17)

No she isn't. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

Hitler is dead and will never be our president.

After Trump if he was eligible Benjamin Netanyahu would make a good president. To bad he is ineligible huh?

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-02-07   12:08:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#18) (Edited)

No she isn't. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

Oh I know that.

The fact she isn't makes it clear (D)rumpf is full of dramatic campaign Bullshyte.

Crowd: "Lock her up, lock her up"

(D)rumpf: "Shh, that was just for show during the campaign"

VxH  posted on  2018-02-07   12:24:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: VxH (#19)

Are you under the misconception that the President can arrest someone?

You know investigations happen in secret right?

So she may be or may not be. Time will tell.

Yes I wish she would be too. There is also politics involved. THere are assholes in this country who actually don't support Trump. If he goes after Hillary there are political consequences.

Trump is doing a great job. You seem like someone who is incapable of being satisfied politically.

Maybe you're just satisfied with butchy women who change tires and work on engines.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-02-07   12:37:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#20)

"Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) rights in Israel are the most advanced in the Middle East, and one of the most advanced in Asia. Although same-sex sexual activity was legalized in 1988, the former law against sodomy had not been enforced since a court decision of 1963."
en.wikipedia.org/w iki/LGBT_rights_in_Israel

1963. That about the same time ol' Herbie Marcuse and his [redacted] cohorts were getting things cooking in the "New" Left's sexual revolution?

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