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Published: Feb 2, 2018
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Post Date: 2018-02-02 12:57:52 by Pinguinite
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House Intelligence Committee Report On FISA Abuses by The Federalist on Scribd

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#2. To: Pinguinite (#0)

I don't find anything about this particularly new or revealing. Anybody who has been following this already knows all of this and the reactions that would follow.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-02-02   13:21:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: no gnu taxes (#2)

I don't find anything about this particularly new or revealing. Anybody who has been following this already knows all of this and the reactions that would follow.

But it is. It documents NAMES. And proves that false affidavits were signed off on by these people apply for and authorize FISA surveillance of Trump and his people. Based on the 100% fake Steele Dossier.

Yes, we speculated what the truth was with much certainty, but now the truth is nailed to the door. IN PUBLIC.

This will not be the only memo released.

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-02   13:38:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Liberator (#7)

And proves that false affidavits were signed off on by these people apply for and authorize FISA surveillance of Trump and his people.

One would think that Trump would be wise enough to understand that this is used against millions of law-abiding citizens, yet he signed the bill extending surveillance law — the same law he says was used to spy on him

Seems a bit hypocritical, doen't it? Unless one truly believes that the President and "his people" are entitled to more Constitutional protections than the proles.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-02   13:53:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Deckard (#13)

One would think that Trump would be wise enough to understand that this is used against millions of law-abiding citizens, yet he signed the bill extending surveillance law — the same law he says was used to spy on him

More accurately, the same law that was abused to spy on him. But yes, he should be getting a lesson on what it's like to be on the receiving end of such abuses. Next lesson is how power corrupts and it's not simply a matter of replacing corrupt people with "good" people, that the law itself needs to go.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-02-02   13:59:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Pinguinite, Deckard (#16)

Next lesson is how power corrupts and it's not simply a matter of replacing corrupt people with "good" people, that the law itself needs to go.

Power in the extreme has always corrupted. hence the Founders "Three Equal Branched" that were supposed to check and balance each other. THAT must be re-calibrated.

ANY law -- even so-called "good" or necessary" laws can and are abused. "Good people," ethical, moral people are far less less apt to abuse their position of authority. I think that's the best we can hope for from human beings.

The problems occur when Progressively political people abuse their power and position to justify what is a fascist ideology. For them (and Communists), they are at war, and "The end justifies the means."

The 0bamas and Clintons have both done the same thing and abused their power during their respective regimes, demonstrating NO respect for the law, the Constitution OR their opposition.

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-02   14:20:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Liberator (#23)

The 0bamas and Clintons have both done the same thing and abused their power during their respective regimes, demonstrating NO respect for the law, the Constitution OR their opposition.

You left off Dubya and Poppy Bush.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-02   14:25:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Deckard (#26)

You left off Dubya and Poppy Bush.

Yes, but to a far less degree.

The 0bamas and Clintons wanted to turn America and the Constitution on its head. (True or not true?)

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-02   14:29:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Liberator (#28)

The 0bamas and Clintons wanted to turn America and the Constitution on its head.

I have no doubt about that, however Obabma wouldn't have had near the presidential power that he had if the precedent for issuing executive orders had not been set by Bush.

Clinton was corrupt (and still is) on a completely different level.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-02   14:38:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Deckard (#31)

I have no doubt about that, however Obabma wouldn't have had near the presidential power that he had if the precedent for issuing executive orders had not been set by Bush.

Concur 100%.

But 0bama cranked up the mechanism by a factor of a 1000%+. Which should have destroyed this nation after 8 years. ALMOST did as we've witnessed by the attempted coup.

Bush and his minions also helped SET UP an 0bama who they KNEW was a radical subversive, KNEW well what his agenda would be, and refused to reveal his identity and vet him to the American people.

Ye it is still 0BAMA and his minions who openly declared war on half of America, did he not?

Clinton was corrupt (and still is) on a completely different level.

Well, we're now talking TWO Clintons. It's like discussing the difference between diarrhea and vomit.

From was I observed, both Clintons and 0bama were virulent haters of conservatives and abusive of the USCON. But NO ONE hated/hates America and Conservatives more than the 0bamas. NO ONE.

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-02   14:46:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Liberator (#35)

Bush and his minions also helped SET UP an 0bama who they KNEW was a radical subversive, KNEW well what his agenda would be, and refused to reveal his identity and vet him to the American people.

In my opinion, McCain threw the election to Obaama by not going after him more forcefully and instead backing off.

If he had followed through and backed up Palin's aggressiveness on the campaign trail, things might have turned out differently.

The NWO controllers wanted Obama for just those reasons that you mentioned.

I will agree that Trump has apparently, at least for the time being thrown a monkey wrench into their well-oiled machine.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-02   15:01:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Deckard (#40)

In my opinion, McCain threw the election to Obaama by not going after him more forcefully and instead backing off.

If he had followed through and backed up Palin's aggressiveness on the campaign trail, things might have turned out differently.

Without a doubt, brutha...

We both recall how late McCain had already led in the polls. Then he used the TARP issue to suspend his campaign (aka self-sabotage it.) McCain is filthy as well.

The NWO controllers wanted Obama for just those reasons that you mentioned.

I will agree that Trump has apparently, at least for the time being thrown a monkey wrench into their well-oiled machine.

We're on the same page.

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-02   15:10:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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