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Published: Feb 2, 2018
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Post Date: 2018-02-02 12:57:52 by Pinguinite
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#2. To: Pinguinite (#0)

I don't find anything about this particularly new or revealing. Anybody who has been following this already knows all of this and the reactions that would follow.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-02-02   13:21:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: no gnu taxes (#2)

I don't find anything about this particularly new or revealing. Anybody who has been following this already knows all of this and the reactions that would follow.

But it is. It documents NAMES. And proves that false affidavits were signed off on by these people apply for and authorize FISA surveillance of Trump and his people. Based on the 100% fake Steele Dossier.

Yes, we speculated what the truth was with much certainty, but now the truth is nailed to the door. IN PUBLIC.

This will not be the only memo released.

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-02   13:38:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Liberator (#7)

And proves that false affidavits were signed off on by these people apply for and authorize FISA surveillance of Trump and his people.

One would think that Trump would be wise enough to understand that this is used against millions of law-abiding citizens, yet he signed the bill extending surveillance law — the same law he says was used to spy on him

Seems a bit hypocritical, doen't it? Unless one truly believes that the President and "his people" are entitled to more Constitutional protections than the proles.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-02   13:53:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Deckard (#13)

One would think that Trump would be wise enough to understand that this is used against millions of law-abiding citizens, yet he signed the bill extending surveillance law — the same law he says was used to spy on him.

Seems a bit hypocritical, doen't it? Unless one truly believes that the President and "his people" are entitled to more Constitutional protections than the proles.

MAYBE Trump signed the bill with the ORIGINAL intent executed, whereby LEGIT suspects would be surveilled.

I get your point, but without honorable and honest people with integrity enforcing the law of the land and constitution AND its spirit, those laws, our very Constitution truly is just a "GD piece of paper."

There ARE people in this nation RIGHT NOW who do indeed need to be monitored and surveilled; I wish it weren't the case, but increasing technological advances, cleaver Muzzies and Antifa elements -- as well as "The Memo" -- all prove why it is now a necessary evil.

FWIW, I don't like it either...

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-02   14:05:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Liberator (#18)

There ARE people in this nation RIGHT NOW who do indeed need to be monitored and surveilled; I wish it weren't the case, but increasing technological advances, cleaver Muzzies and Antifa elements -- as well as "The Memo" -- all prove why it is now a necessary evil.

I have no problem with NSA spying on the bad guys - but that simply isn't the case here.

With the Shutdown Over, The Government Can Go Back to Suppressing Your Rights

In a bipartisan manner, Congress recently passed the FISA Reauthorization Act of 2017. On January 19th, President Trump signed this bill into law.

That bill extended the controversial Section 702 program that allows the NSA to conduct warrantless surveillance of non-U.S. citizens or residents. This program clearly benefits our intelligence agencies in matters of national security. However, millions of Americans’ private information is also collected in this program.

The private information of anyone in the U.S. who communicates with someone outside of the country could potentially be stored in this massive database. How expansive is this program? The Washington Post reviewed a sample of communications from the Edward Snowden leaks and found that 9 out of 10 people in the database were not surveillance targets. Nearly half of these people were American citizens or residents and their private information was swept up in this net.

This isn’t just a matter of preserving privacy. Once information enters this program, all conventional constitutional law goes to the wayside. The FBI has access to this program to do “backdoor searches” for any crime without a warrant. That information can be passed along to whichever law enforcement agencies the FBI deems necessary. Furthermore, this isn’t a minor program that applies to a few people. There were an estimated 106,469 targets in 2016.

Deckard  posted on  2018-02-02   14:09:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#27. To: Deckard (#22)

That bill extended the controversial Section 702 program that allows the NSA to conduct warrantless surveillance of non-U.S. citizens or residents. This program clearly benefits our intelligence agencies in matters of national security. However, millions of Americans’ private information is also collected in this program.

The private information of anyone in the U.S. who communicates with someone outside of the country could potentially be stored in this massive database.

Believe me -- I feel you.

...A sample of communications from the Edward Snowden leaks and found that 9 out of 10 people in the database were not surveillance targets. Nearly half of these people were American citizens or residents and their private information was swept up in this net.

I was calling Snowden a hero and criticized for it. Yes, I am acutely aware of the waste of resources, gross abuse of privacy and the 4A, and unnecessary surveillance.

After 8 years of an Enemy of the State and his minions sabotaging the US and setting up coups and "Resistance," AND infesting every branch, twig and leaf of gubmint, one can make the legit argument that this law is NOW needed more than ever. Unfortunately.

What do you feel should be a solution or even compromise given the last eight years and revelation of such abuse of power and corruption by the 0bamas and Clintons and their minions?

Liberator  posted on  2018-02-02 14:28:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Deckard (#22)

I have no problem with NSA spying on the bad guys - but that simply isn't the case here.

This isn’t just a matter of preserving privacy. Once information enters this program, all conventional constitutional law goes to the wayside.

What evidence do you have that "all conventional constitutional law goes to the wayside" once a person is in the program?

Surely, any citizen would still retain their individual constitutional rights?

tpaine  posted on  2018-02-02 14:49:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Deckard, y'all (#22)

This isn’t just a matter of preserving privacy. Once information enters this program, all conventional constitutional law goes to the wayside.

What evidence do you have that "all conventional constitutional law goes to the wayside" once a person is in the program?

Surely, any citizen would still retain their individual constitutional rights?

Second request...

tpaine  posted on  2018-02-02 22:30:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Deckard (#22)

I have no problem with NSA spying on the bad guys - but that simply isn't the case here.

Thank God for your permission.

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-02 22:42:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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