In addition to officer safety, another de facto capital offense in this country is failure to comply.
This past fall, a Northern Virginia man named Bijan Ghaisar was executed by armed government workers after a brief car chase. Apparently, the man had been involved in a minor accident no injuries and he wasnt the driver who caused the accident but he left the scene regardless. Its possible he had an expired license or some other thing on his mind and feared (rightly) what the heroes might do to him if he stuck around. Given the run-amokness of heroes these days, avoiding them is reasonable self-preservation.
We have good reason to fear for our safety.
This resulted in a car chase. Not a high speed or reckless one. The guy was simply not complying. He stops a couple of times and then thinks better of it as armed government workers begin to approach and takes off. This of course really annoys the armed government workers who end up surrounding the guys car and ending his life in a hail of bullets.
Their victim was not armed. He posed no threat to the safety of the heroes.
He was, however, non-compliant.
Somehow, the law has transmogrified to justify legally permit armed government workers to aim lethal weapons at unarmed people and shoot them to death for this offense.
Which makes sense, from a certain point of view i.e., theirs.
No challenge to their Authority can be tolerated. This is the fulcrum of things. To allow any disrespect is intolerable, a crime worse than any on the books . . . from the point of view of armed government workers and, of course, the government they work for.
Its been pointed out that police armed government workers have become functionally indistinguishable from occupying soldiers. Redcoats with body armor and automatic-fire weapons.
One of the characteristics of such is the countenancing of no resistance to their commands. A POW who attempts to get away is shot as a matter of course. This is exactly how this man was treated.
He was not an armed and dangerous criminal. Just a guy who got into a minor traffic scrape and then for fully understandable reasons failed to comply. For this, he was murdered.
A strong word but the right word.
Take away the buzz cuts, the opaque Intimidator sunglasses and most especially, the official uniforms and government-issued guns. If an ordinary man a gang of ordinary men had surrounded the car of another man attempting to get away from them after a minor fender-bender and then drawn weapons on their unarmed victim who was trying to get away from them and rained death upon him with their weapons, they would without question all be facing at least second-degree murder charges.
The part above about trying to get away is italicized for emphasis.
It is generally the law for all but armed government workers that one may only resort to deadly force when confronted with a pursuing attacker one cannot get away from. It is generally a legal obligation to retreat from such a confrontation, if reasonably possible.
For armed government workers, it is the reverse. They have been given a literal license to kill people who are simply attempting to avoid them. Which explains why they do kill them and with such glib abandon.
Its the perfect gig for someone who wants to kill people and get away with it.
An ordinary citizen is chastened preemptively about the use of deadly force, if not by his own moral compass, by the knowledge that if he does use it and its sketchy in any way, there is a very good chance he will be spending many years in a prison cell.
This is good policy.
Ending another persons life is as serious as business gets and when done, should only be done when ones own life is in obvious and imminent danger. Not because one claims he feared for his safety like a little boy hiding under his bed to escape the Bogeyman and who probably at least believes in the existence of said Bogeyman but on account of an actual and imminent threat, such as a person pointing an actual (as opposed to hypothesized) gun at you.
We are urged to regard armed government workers as heroes who serve us. Well, in the first place, heroes are people who put themselves at risk for the safety of others. They are not people who bleat constantly about their safety and use that bleat as the justification to blow people away . . . just to be safe.
In the second, they do not serve. Armed government workers are exactly that. They are the states mercenary troops, paid to enforce the states edicts and their own, too. They do as they like and are rarely even tongue-lashed for it.
Warpage of language has turned the world upside down.
Getting back to our now-deceased victim of non-compliance. The armed government workers in pursuit knew who he was they had his license plate as well as the account of the other person (an Uber driver, apparently) involved in the initial fender bender. Why did this have to become a deadly encounter? Why couldnt the armed government workers have backed off and de-escalated the situation?
The now-dead man would have gone home eventually and his minor traffic transgressions could have been handled without resorting to a hail of gunfire by the side of the road.
Take away the buzz cuts, the opaque Intimidator sunglasses and most especially, the official uniforms and government-issued guns. If an ordinary man a gang of ordinary men had surrounded the car of another man attempting to get away from them after a minor fender-bender and then drawn weapons on their unarmed victim who was trying to get away from them and rained death upon him with their weapons, they would without question all be facing at least second-degree murder charges.
Come on Deckard why are you posting articles from a F'n retard.
If an ordinary man a gang of ordinary men had surrounded the car of another man attempting to get away from them after a minor fender-bender and then drawn weapons on their unarmed victim who was trying to get away from them and rained death upon him with their weapons, they would without question all be facing at least second-degree murder charges.
Oh - so you don't agree with this?
If you or I chased down a car that had been involved in a minor fender-bender and killed the driver, would you or I be charged of murder?
If you or I chased down a car that had been involved in a minor fender-bender and killed the driver, would you or I be charged of murder?
You or Stone aren't sworn to ENFORCE the law... and it isn't a crime for this subject to not comply with YOU. I realize you have self importance issues, but you aren't charged with the responsibility to stop crime as a non police civilian. However, if you were walking down the sidewalk and this filthy criminal shitbag was about to run you over because he was recklessly evading the police, you putting a bullet in his head would be justified via self defense, and you know it.
Their victim was not armed. He posed no threat to the safety of the heroes.
He was, however, non-compliant.
Somehow, the law has transmogrified to justify legally permit armed government workers to aim lethal weapons at unarmed people and shoot them to death for this offense.
Which makes sense, from a certain point of view i.e., theirs.
No challenge to their Authority can be tolerated. This is the fulcrum of things. To allow any disrespect is intolerable, a crime worse than any on the books . . . from the point of view of armed government workers and, of course, the government they work for.
#22. To: Deckard, GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#9)(Edited)
Their victim was not armed. He posed no threat to the safety of the heroes.
Ah ha....you know this AFTER the FACT.
Here is the same type of chase with opposite results where a cop was killed.
A Colorado sheriff's deputy was shot and killed on Wednesday after responding to an assault in progress, officials said.
The officer, an Adams County sheriffs deputy, was fatally shot in the chest after pursuing a suspect on foot in Thornton, Colorado, located about 10 miles north of Denver, police said.
"When deputies caught up to the male, the male pulled out a handgun and started to shoot at our deputies," fatally striking the officer, the Adams County sheriff's office said in a statement.
A sheriff's deputy was shot and killed responding to a report of an assault in Thornton, Colo., on Jan. 24, 2018.
The shooter took off on foot for a second time, but was later located and taken into custody, the statement said. Police are still searching for two additional suspects in connection with the incident, who they said should be considered "potentially armed and dangerous," according to the statement.
Police told the public to seek immediate shelter and avoid the area.
Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper confirmed the death in a statement late Wednesday, but he did not disclose the officers identity or the circumstances of the shooting.
Tonight we watched as a community was on edge and a sheriffs deputy was shot while responding to a call in Adams County, the governors statement said. We are deeply saddened to learn that the deputy has died from injuries sustained in the shooting.
Our thoughts and prayers are with the Adams County Sheriffs Office and the family and friends of the deputy killed, he added.
Hickenlooper said authorities were still working to restore calm to the area as of late Wednesday evening. The investigation is ongoing.
The shooting brings the number of gun-related officer deaths in the U.S. so far this year to four, according to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund.
On Dec. 31, 2017, a man with a history of mental health issues opened fire on deputies in Highlands Ranch, Colorado, killing 29-year-old Douglas County Sheriff Deputy Zackari Parrish. Four other law enforcement officers were wounded in the shootout. The suspect in that case was killed.
"When deputies caught up to the male, the male pulled out a handgun and started to shoot at our deputies," fatally striking the officer, the Adams County sheriff's office said in a statement.
None of which are true in this case - the badged cowards surrounded the car after a minor fender-bender and gunned down the driver. He wasn't fleeing on foot - he was inside his car.
cop-haters
I hate cops who gun down innocent citizens and face no repercussions for their actions, while you want to give cops a license to murder with impunity for any imagined threat to their safety.