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Title: Blown Away . . . for Not Complying
Source: Eric Peters Autos
URL Source: https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2018/01/25/blown-away-not-complying/
Published: Jan 25, 2018
Author: Eric
Post Date: 2018-01-27 10:04:44 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 784
Comments: 23

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In addition to “officer safety,” another de facto capital offense in this country is “failure to comply.”

This past fall, a Northern Virginia man named Bijan Ghaisar was executed by armed government workers after a brief car chase. Apparently, the man had been involved in a minor accident – no injuries and he wasn’t the driver who caused the accident –  but he left the scene regardless. It’s possible he had an expired license or some other thing on his mind and feared (rightly) what the “heroes” might do to him if he stuck around. Given the run-amokness of “heroes” these days, avoiding them is reasonable self-preservation.

We have good reason to fear for our safety.

This resulted in a car chase. Not a “high speed” or “reckless” one. The guy was simply not complying. He stops a couple of times and then thinks better of it as armed government workers begin to approach – and takes off. This of course really annoys the armed government workers – who end up surrounding the guy’s car and ending his life in a hail of bullets.

Their victim was not armed. He posed no “threat” to the “safety” of the “heroes.”

He was, however, non-compliant.

Somehow, the law has transmogrified to justify – legally permit – armed government workers to aim lethal weapons at unarmed people and shoot them to death for this offense.

Which makes sense, from a certain point of view – i.e., theirs.

No challenge to their Authority can be tolerated. This is the fulcrum of things. To allow any disrespect is intolerable, a crime worse than any on the books . . . from the point of view of armed government workers and, of course, the government they work for.

It’s been pointed out that police – armed government workers – have become functionally indistinguishable from occupying soldiers. Redcoats with body armor and automatic-fire weapons.

One of the characteristics of such is the countenancing of no “resistance” to their commands. A POW who attempts to get away is shot as a matter of course. This is exactly how this man was treated.

He was not an armed and dangerous criminal. Just a guy who got into a minor traffic scrape and then – for fully understandable reasons – failed to comply. For this, he was murdered.

A strong word – but the right word.

Take away the buzz cuts, the opaque Intimidator sunglasses – and most especially, the official uniforms and government-issued guns. If an ordinary man – a gang of ordinary men – had surrounded the car of another man attempting to get away from them after a minor fender-bender and then drawn weapons on their unarmed victim – who was trying to get away from them – and rained death upon him with their weapons, they would without question all be facing at least second-degree murder charges.

The part above about trying to get away is italicized for emphasis.

It is generally the law – for all but armed government workers – that one may only resort to deadly force when confronted with a pursuing attacker one cannot get away from. It is generally a legal obligation to retreat from such a confrontation, if reasonably possible.

For armed government workers, it is the reverse. They have been given a literal license to kill people who are simply attempting to avoid them. Which explains why they do kill them – and with such glib abandon.

It’s the perfect gig for someone who wants to kill people – and get away with it.

An ordinary citizen is chastened preemptively about the use of deadly force, if not by his own moral compass, by the knowledge that if he does use it and it’s sketchy in any way, there is a very good chance he will be spending many years in a prison cell.

This is good policy.

Ending another person’s life is as serious as business gets and when done, should only be done when one’s own life is in obvious and imminent danger. Not because one claims he “feared for his safety” – like a little boy hiding under his bed to escape the Bogeyman – and who probably at least believes in the existence of said Bogeyman – but on account of an actual and imminent threat, such as a person pointing an actual (as opposed to hypothesized) gun at you.

We are urged to regard armed government workers as “heroes” who “serve” us. Well, in the first place, “heroes” are people who put themselves at risk for the safety of others. They are not people who bleat constantly about their safety – and use that bleat as the justification to blow people away . . . just to be “safe.”

In the second, they do not “serve.” Armed government workers are exactly that. They are the state’s mercenary troops, paid to enforce the state’s edicts – and their own, too. They do as they like – and are rarely even tongue-lashed for it.

Warpage of language has turned the world upside down.

Getting back to our now-deceased victim of non-compliance. The armed government workers in pursuit knew who he was – they had his license plate as well as the account of the other person (an Uber driver, apparently) involved in the initial fender bender. Why did this have to become a deadly encounter? Why couldn’t the armed government workers have backed off and de-escalated the situation?

The now-dead man would have gone home eventually and his minor traffic transgressions could have been handled without resorting to a hail of gunfire by the side of the road.

But then, the point would not have been made.


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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Given the run-amokness of “heroes” these days, avoiding them is reasonable self-preservation.

Uh-huh. And how did that work out for this asshole?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-01-27   10:10:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#0)

then – for fully understandable reasons – failed to comply. For this, he was murdered.

People who listen to Eric for advice are by really dumb people. When someone is fleeing it is reasonable to believe they may have a gun.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-01-27   10:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#0)

Take away the buzz cuts, the opaque Intimidator sunglasses – and most especially, the official uniforms and government-issued guns. If an ordinary man – a gang of ordinary men – had surrounded the car of another man attempting to get away from them after a minor fender-bender and then drawn weapons on their unarmed victim – who was trying to get away from them – and rained death upon him with their weapons, they would without question all be facing at least second-degree murder charges.

Come on Deckard why are you posting articles from a F'n retard.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-01-27   10:16:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard (#0)

He was not an armed

For all you Paultards, a little education from me since DickTard will only indoctrinate your thinking to act JUST LIKE THIS FOOL... by posting criminal apologist propaganda. A CAR OR VEHICLE IS A WEAPON.

Plenty of case law on that.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-27   10:20:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deckard (#0)

Apparently, the man had been involved in a minor accident – no injuries and he wasn’t the driver who caused the accident –

Well ... he was in the left lane and slammed on his brakes, coming to a halt. The car behind him couldn't stop in time and rear-ended him.

Legally, the driver of the car that hit him was responsible, but it's obvious who caused the accident.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-01-27   10:21:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#3)

If an ordinary man – a gang of ordinary men – had surrounded the car of another man attempting to get away from them after a minor fender-bender and then drawn weapons on their unarmed victim – who was trying to get away from them – and rained death upon him with their weapons, they would without question all be facing at least second-degree murder charges.

Oh - so you don't agree with this?

If you or I chased down a car that had been involved in a minor fender-bender and killed the driver, would you or I be charged of murder?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-27   10:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#5) (Edited)

Well ... he was in the left lane and slammed on his brakes, coming to a halt. The car behind him couldn't stop in time and rear-ended him.

Legally, the driver of the car that hit him was responsible, but it's obvious who caused the accident.

The driver of the car following him was responsible for the accident by following too closely.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-27   10:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deckard (#6)

If you or I chased down a car that had been involved in a minor fender-bender and killed the driver, would you or I be charged of murder?

You or Stone aren't sworn to ENFORCE the law... and it isn't a crime for this subject to not comply with YOU. I realize you have self importance issues, but you aren't charged with the responsibility to stop crime as a non police civilian. However, if you were walking down the sidewalk and this filthy criminal shitbag was about to run you over because he was recklessly evading the police, you putting a bullet in his head would be justified via self defense, and you know it.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-27   10:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: GrandIsland (#8)

Their victim was not armed. He posed no “threat” to the “safety” of the “heroes.”

He was, however, non-compliant.

Somehow, the law has transmogrified to justify – legally permit – armed government workers to aim lethal weapons at unarmed people and shoot them to death for this offense.

Which makes sense, from a certain point of view – i.e., theirs.

No challenge to their Authority can be tolerated. This is the fulcrum of things. To allow any disrespect is intolerable, a crime worse than any on the books . . . from the point of view of armed government workers and, of course, the government they work for.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-27   10:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GrandIsland (#8)

However, if you were walking down the sidewalk and this filthy criminal shitbag was about to run you over because he was recklessly evading the police, you putting a bullet in his head would be justified via self defense, and you know it.

Nice strawman - you do realize that was not the case here don't you?

The armed government workers in pursuit knew who he was – they had his license plate as well as the account of the other person (an Uber driver, apparently) involved in the initial fender bender. Why did this have to become a deadly encounter? Why couldn’t the armed government workers have backed off and de-escalated the situation?

The now-dead man would have gone home eventually and his minor traffic transgressions could have been handled without resorting to a hail of gunfire by the side of the road.

But then, the point would not have been made.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-27   10:41:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard (#9)

Their victim was not armed.

He was armed with a vehicle, douchebag.

Michael Brown wasn't armed either... doesn't mean there isn't justification to shoot his potato ass.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-27   10:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deckard (#7)

The driver of the car following him was responsible

Legally, yes. As I said.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-01-27   10:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: GrandIsland (#11)

He was armed with a vehicle, douchebag.

Was he trying to run down the cops? No he wasn't - they were in no danger, yet the pricks shot and killed him anyways.

Such brave "heroes"!

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-27   10:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Deckard (#10)

Nice strawman - you do realize that was not the case

Of course it's not what happened. I was trying to give you an example of YOU, a little man of no importance, of why YOU could shoot this criminal shitbag, as a peon anarchist, and it would be justified.

Try and keep up, asshole. You can't be that ignorant.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-27   10:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard (#13)

Was he trying to run down the cops?

Hard for me to tell... your article sucks donkey dicks in the informative department... and I wasn't there, personally.

So kindly STFU

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-27   10:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Deckard (#7)

The driver of the car following him was responsible for the accident by following too closely.

That is usually true but not necessarily true. If you are on a high speed traffic lane and slam on your brakes absent any traffic necessity and you get rear ended, you can be prosecuted. There was a road rage case in Maryland I remember where a woman was enraged by someone cutting her off. She sped ahead of them, pulled in front and slammed her brakes resulting in a rear-end collision. The woman rear-ending here was pregnant and lost her baby. The woman who slammed her brakes was prosecuted.

That's a rare case but does show it's not always a cut n dry case of who's to blame in rear-end hits.

But looking at the video, it does not appear anyone was in danger creating justification for opening fire. Obviously the driver was fleeing of course, but it doesn't appear the fleeing was particularly reckless, for what that's worth.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-01-27   11:38:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Deckard (#0)

They shot him because the nation we live in is now a prison, and he was attempting to escape. That is why they use the same terms in prisons as they do in malls, schools or in Boston during the "marathon training exercise" Lockdown, shield in place, comply, ALL show your hands or be shot. People don't see children rushing from a school and being required to keep their hands up as un-American? This guy was shot by the park police for refusing "COMMANDS"? This also reminds me of the dental hygienist who was murdered by LAW ENFORCERS in DC for absolutely no reason, and no explanation I have ever heard.

THIS IS A TAG LINE...Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.

jeremiad  posted on  2018-01-27   16:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Deckard (#0)

Tough call on judgement. Is it possible to say BOTH were wrong, BOTH are responsible for what happened?

Gotta a guy who refused to stop. He panicked for whatever reason. Cops are naturally going to treat this driver as armed and dangerous. As they should.

On the other hand, couldn't they have shot out the drivers tires when he was at a stop and surrounded? Or, waited for the guy to emerge, hands up?

At that point LE could have demonstrated more patience.

My only quibble is with the reporters and media for sensationalizing an incident like this with so many other life-and-death situation running amok. Like daily murders and shooting of the innocents in BLM-occupied inner-cities Plantations, Death-by-Islam, OR Death-by-Illegal Invader (vehicular/B&E/random.)

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-28   15:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Deckard (#0) (Edited)

We are urged to regard armed government workers as “heroes” who “serve” us. Well, in the first place, “heroes” are people who put themselves at risk for the safety of others. They are not people who bleat constantly about their safety – and use that bleat as the justification to blow people away . . . just to be “safe.”

In the second, they do not “serve.” Armed government workers are exactly that. They are the state’s mercenary troops, paid to enforce the state’s edicts – and their own, too. They do as they like – and are rarely even tongue-lashed for it.

Warpage of language has turned the world upside down.

Did you write this report and editorial?

Nice job.

I agree with the above. Though there are obviously many exceptions. (EDIT)

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-28   15:18:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: jeremiad, Deckard (#17)

That is why they use the same terms in prisons as they do in malls, schools or in Boston during the "marathon training exercise" Lockdown, shield in place, comply, ALL show your hands or be shot.

Worthy reminder of how frivolously this gubmint now enforces "LOCK-DOWNS." The Boston Marathon in Boston was THE most ridiculously obvious fascist gubmint exercise ever seen till this day. 0bama's Ballerina-Boy's phrase, "never let a good crisis go to waste" comes to mind, and the authoritahs made sure to exploit the situation...

...so the PTB purposely conducted their planned dress-up charade and experiment the following day in order to gauge communitah "compliance." If you recall even though LE had the perp dead to rights at night, knowing exactly where he was.

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-28   15:29:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Pinguinite (#16)

...Looking at the video, it does not appear anyone was in danger creating justification for opening fire.

Obviously the driver was fleeing of course, but it doesn't appear the fleeing was particularly reckless, for what that's worth.

It's a worthy observation and conclusion.

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-28   15:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Deckard, GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#9) (Edited)

Their victim was not armed. He posed no “threat” to the “safety” of the “heroes.”
Ah ha....you know this AFTER the FACT.

Here is the same type of “chase” with opposite results where a cop
was killed.

A Colorado sheriff's deputy was shot and killed on Wednesday after responding to an assault in progress, officials said.

The officer, an Adams County sheriff’s deputy, was fatally shot in the chest after pursuing a suspect on foot in Thornton, Colorado, located about 10 miles north of Denver, police said.

"When deputies caught up to the male, the male pulled out a handgun and started to shoot at our deputies," fatally striking the officer, the Adams County sheriff's office said in a statement.


A sheriff's deputy was shot and killed responding to a report of an assault in Thornton, Colo., on Jan. 24, 2018.

The shooter took off on foot for a second time, but was later located and taken into custody, the statement said. Police are still searching for two additional suspects in connection with the incident, who they said should be considered "potentially armed and dangerous," according to the statement.

Police told the public to seek immediate shelter and avoid the area.

Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper confirmed the death in a statement late Wednesday, but he did not disclose the officer’s identity or the circumstances of the shooting.

“Tonight we watched as a community was on edge and a sheriff’s deputy was shot while responding to a call in Adams County,” the governor’s statement said. “We are deeply saddened to learn that the deputy has died from injuries sustained in the shooting.

“Our thoughts and prayers are with the Adams County Sheriff’s Office and the family and friends of the deputy killed,” he added.

Hickenlooper said authorities were still working to restore calm to the area as of late Wednesday evening. The investigation is ongoing.

The shooting brings the number of gun-related officer deaths in the U.S. so far this year to four, according to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund.

On Dec. 31, 2017, a man with a history of mental health issues opened fire on deputies in Highlands Ranch, Colorado, killing 29-year-old Douglas County Sheriff Deputy Zackari Parrish. Four other law enforcement officers were wounded in the shootout. The suspect in that case was killed.

ABC News' Clayton Sandell contributed to this report.

The “Monday morning quarterbacking” by you cop-haters makes you
look really stupid.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-28   23:38:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Gatlin (#22) (Edited)

"When deputies caught up to the male, the male pulled out a handgun and started to shoot at our deputies," fatally striking the officer, the Adams County sheriff's office said in a statement.

None of which are true in this case - the badged cowards surrounded the car after a minor fender-bender and gunned down the driver. He wasn't fleeing on foot - he was inside his car.

cop-haters

I hate cops who gun down innocent citizens and face no repercussions for their actions, while you want to give cops a license to murder with impunity for any imagined threat to their safety.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-29   7:05:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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