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Title: Todd Palin Goes Rogue with Message Tee
Source: TMZ
URL Source: http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/17/todd-palin-goes-rogue-with-message-tee
Published: Dec 17, 2009
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2009-12-17 17:38:14 by borntoweardiamonds
Keywords: Todd, Palin, Tee
Views: 4714
Comments: 43

Taking a cue from Sarah Palin's McCain Visor-Gate, Todd Palin is now speaking his mind with the use of bad fashion too.

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The failed Vice Presidential nominee's man-wife was spotted in President Barack Obama's birth state of Hawaii on Wednesday wearing an American flag t-shirt featuring the quote from country singer John Rich: "If you don't love America ... then why don't you get the hell out."

For once, the Palins are being very liberal ... with how they get their message across. (1 image)

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#9. To: borntoweardiamonds (#0)

"If you don't love America ... then why don't you get the hell out."

When will the corporate bailout illegal alien GOP loving Palins be leaving?

Moderate Mammal  posted on  2009-12-17   19:12:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Moderate Mammal (#9)

Ahem...Ron Paul's record on Immigration:

http://w ww.newswithviews.com/public_comm/public_commentary48.htm

SNIP~

I'd collected Ron Paul's voting record on the very strategies urged that night to reverse the influence of "one-world government:" hiring Americans, no amnesty for illegal aliens and border security based on Paul's Immigration Voting Record & Report Card on the NumbersUSA website:

(1) Paul consistently voted every year since 1999 against putting the military on the border: 2006: H. Amdt. 206 to H.R. 1815 2004: Goode Amendment to H.R. 4200 2003: Goode Amendment to H.R. 1588 2002: H. Amdt. 479 to H.R. 4546 2001: Traficant amendment to HR 2586 2000: Traficant amendment to H.R.4205 1999: Trafficant Amendment to H.R. 1401. (2) Paul voted in 1997, 2001( H.R. 1885) and 2002 (H RES 365) to grant, extend or continue Section 245-i amnesties for illegal aliens. (3) Paul voted NO on extending the voluntary Basic Pilot Workplace Verification Program (H.R. 2359), (4) Paul voted NO on the border fence in 2005 (Hunter Amendment to HR 4437 - "Enforcement Only" Bill). (5) Paul voted YES to increase H2-B (HR 763 in 2005) and H-1B visas (HR 3736 in 1998). In 1998, he voted to allow US firms to lay off Americans to replace them with foreigners. What a surprise to hear Mrs. Freeman focus her reply not on the five items I'd presented, but instead on Congressman Paul's introduction of a bill banning "birthright citizenship" (actually one of several in the Congressional hopper). Was this another example of the politicians' shell game?

I reminded her that my questions weren't about birthright citizenship, but instead about using the military on the border, opposing the border fence amendment to HR 4437, his support for several Section 245i amnesties for illegal aliens and increased guest-worker visas for jobs Americans want. She apparently realized that I wouldn't be blown off so easily and spoke to the questions presented.

She said a border fence wasn't needed; sensors at the border would be enough. On the matter of the military on the border, she said it wasn't necessary--the Border Patrol should be fully empowered to do the job. She claimed that the job was done more effectively without the military when states patrolled their own borders, adding an anecdote about Texas Rangers' success in stopping diseased cattle from crossing the border.

READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE

borntoweardiamonds  posted on  2009-12-17   21:25:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: borntoweardiamonds (#15)

Paul consistently voted every year since 1999 against putting the military on the border:

Big deal. If that's all you bushbots can come up with them he is light years ahead of Bush, Palin and McCain.

There are a hundred things that can be done of which none of the others will do.

You do not need troops on the border. You need to enforce the fucking law for a change and the illegals will go home and not come. No jobs, no welfare....no illegals.

Moderate Mammal  posted on  2009-12-17   23:15:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Moderate Mammal (#17)

Not so, MM. He was for it before he was against it, if you get my drift. ONLY when he decided to RUN FOR PRESIDENT in 2007 did he change his spiel. I listened to him and didn't believe a word he said on the issue. Did you miss this part:

"Paul voted in 1997, 2001( H.R. 1885) and 2002 (H RES 365) to grant, extend or continue Section 245-i amnesties for illegal aliens.

(3) Paul voted NO on extending the voluntary Basic Pilot Workplace Verification Program (H.R. 2359),

(4) Paul voted NO on the border fence in 2005 (Hunter Amendment to HR 4437 - "Enforcement Only" Bill).

(5) Paul voted YES to increase H2-B (HR 763 in 2005) and H-1B visas (HR 3736 in 1998). In 1998, he voted to allow US firms to lay off Americans to replace them with foreigners.

Ron Paul is also a freaking GLOBALIST..just LOVES China!

borntoweardiamonds  posted on  2009-12-18   4:49:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: borntoweardiamonds (#23)

The fence means nothing. For the thousandth time. Why have a fence if you're going to hire illegals and give them welfare.

Should you have to put a fence around your neighborhood when the guy next door hires them?

Moderate Mammal  posted on  2009-12-18   8:25:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Moderate Mammal (#26)

Why have a fence if you're going to hire illegals and give them welfare

If you think that preventing them from being hired or getting welfare is going to stop them from coming in, you are seriously mistaken. Besides - you can't stop them from getting welfare, not the way they are able to get it. The Government dosen't give them welfare - specifically - their American born children get them welfare.

Several things need to be done to put a stop to it all.

mel  posted on  2009-12-18   9:40:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mel (#29)

If you think that preventing them from being hired or getting welfare is going to stop them from coming in, you are seriously mistaken. Besides - you can't stop them from getting welfare, not the way they are able to get it. The Government dosen't give them welfare - specifically - their American born children get them welfare.

Several things need to be done to put a stop to it all.

If Bush did not give them jobs and welfare, there would be no anchor babies. And if the Bushbots supported a candidate that was pro-American there would not have been a problem in the first place.

www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59551

ELECTION 2008 Ron Paul shocker: No more 'anchor babies' GOP gadfly's 'anti-immigrant' ad irks supporters Posted: January 04, 2008 11:15 pm Eastern

© 2009 WorldNetDaily.com

Ron Paul A controversial new anti-illegal-immigration ad by GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul has sent his libertarian supporters into high dudgeon, but it's getting rave reviews from border-security hawks, including some Homeland Security officials.

In a surprise move, the strict constitutionalist has taken aim at the 14th Amendment as part of a proposal to control growing illegal immigration. U.S. Rep. Paul, R-Texas, proposes repealing the provision that gives automatic citizenship to children born in the U.S., even if their parents enter the country illegally.

"Ron Paul wants border security now," his new campaign ad asserts. "Physically secure the border. No amnesty. No welfare to illegal aliens. End birthright citizenship. No more student visas from terrorist nations."

The 30-second TV spot was released last week and is now running in New Hampshire.

"This advertisement makes it clear that, as president, Dr. Paul would oppose amnesty, secure the border, end birthright citizenship, end welfare to illegal aliens, and restore the rule of law," said campaign chairman Kent Snyder from Paul's headquarters in Arlington, Va.

However, many of Paul's supporters – who have donated more than $20 million to his campaign over the past three months alone – are not pleased with the ad. And some have expressed shock at his sudden tough stance against immigration.

Justin Raimondo, editor of AntiWar.com, a blog Paul regularly contributes to, called the ad "disgraceful."

"Rarely has a more ignorant proposal been advanced," he said. "And it is made even worse by the fact that this is Ron Paul we're talking about."

He and other angry fans accused Paul of pandering to the conservative base of the GOP, specifically border-security voters who backed presidential candidate Tom Tancredo before he recently dropped out of the race.

"'No more student visas from terrorist nations' stands against his rhetoric of 'lets talk to people, trade with them, etc.,' as opposed to 'bomb them and interfere with them,'" writes a blogger called "Ali" on Reason.com's blog. "But I think he's trying to appeal to a certain segment of the Republican base. I do not like it though. Otherwise, it is a good ad that has a Tancredo feel to it – despite the fact that I despise Tancredo."

(Story continues below)

Others agree with Paul's proposals, including Homeland Security officials, who say the U.S. policy of birthright citizenship is a major incentive for illegal immigration.

So-called anchor babies are automatically conferred American citizenship, and are entitled to government welfare benefits regardless of the legal status of their parents – even if a parent is a foreign terrorist. Parents, in turn, can also obtain citizenship for themselves by using the family reunification features of immigration law.

Officials complain that illegal immigrants from Mexico cross the border to use U.S. emergency rooms as "maternity wards," and their babies are delivered as "public charges."

"On the U.S. southern border, aliens drive around U.S. hospitals until their water breaks, and then they drive up to the emergency room door for admission and 'free' maternity care," said one official who works for U.S. Customs and Border Protection in Texas.

A senior DHS official in Washington says birthright citizenship is a vestige of the 1800s and has outlived its original charter and purpose of assimilating former slaves into U.S. society after Emancipation.

"A major pet peeve of mine is the bastardization of the 14th Amendment, the principle of Jus Solis, an act to accommodate slaves," he said. "We now permit anyone having a child born in the United States or under the rules of international boundaries to attain United States citizenship under this principle. It is wrong."

According to the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies, more than 570,000 U.S.-born children under the age of 18 have at least one parent born in the Middle East. That number is expected to grow to 950,000 by 2010.

Homeland Security officials also praised Paul for proposing to deny student visas for Muslims from terror-risk countries.

They say college campuses have become hotbeds of radicalization for terror groups, and a number of terrorists and terrorist suspects – including three of the 9/11 hijackers – have entered the U.S. on student visas.

DHS has identified 35 countries of interest for targeting potential terrorist activities, including 34 from predominantly Muslim countries. Here is the internal list, a copy of which was obtained by WND:

* Afghanistan * Algeria * Bahrain * Bangladesh * Djibouti * Egypt * Eritrea * Indonesia * Iran * Iraq * Jordan * Kazakhstan * Kuwait * Lebanon * Libya * Malaysia * Morocco * North Korea * Oman * Pakistan * Philippines * Qatar * Saudi Arabia * Somalia * Sudan * Syria * Tajikistan * Thailand * Tunisia * Turkey * Turkmenistan * United Arab Emirates (UAE) * Uzbekistan * Yemen * Territories of Gaza and the West Bank

Moderate Mammal  posted on  2009-12-18   16:36:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Moderate Mammal (#33)

If Bush did not give them jobs and welfare, there would be no anchor babies.

That information is incorrect.

Let me tell you something. Their home country is a shithole. There is a war going on there. They've several reasons to come. You have the drug smugglers and human smugglers that make a shit load of money crossing our border - THEY DON'T NEED NO STINKING JOBS OR WELFARE. They have a job and they get paid tens of thousands of dollars a week to do their job.

Next - you have the people who just want to get the hell out of Mexico because it is a shithole. They don't need American jobs either. If they can get them, they will take them, but if they can't, they'll work for the smugglers to get money. They come across the border - men, women, and children. Some of the women are already pregnant. They won't qualify for any welfare until the baby is born on American soil. Once born, the baby is an American citizen and then the entire family gets welfare.

If you think there would be no babies without welfare, you are wrong.

Just last week, the border patrol picked up a prgnant woman who had just crossed the border at 9 months along. She got a ride to the hospital because she was in labor. The baby was born and given automatic American Citizenship. Noe the mom won't be deported because the baby is a US citizen. The taxpayers get to pay the medical bills and the woman can get welfare for the child.

In summary - it doesn't matter if you give them jobs and welfare - they will find a way to get money. We need the fence finished, as it is proven to cut traffic. Then, we need more eyes, better eyes, on the border. We also need interior enforcement. We need to stop giving US citizenship to children born of illegals - then they wouldn't get welfare. We need to ensure they can not work under fake or stolen social security numbers. Every County in the US needs their own Sheriff Joe Arpaio to conduct immigration sweeps of all known drop houses and illegal immigrant hang outs.

Simply cutting off jobs and welfare won't do a damn thing to stop them. Just because they can't work legally, doesn't mean they can't find work.

mel  posted on  2009-12-18   16:55:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mel (#34)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y13DzxfrjY&feature=related

This pretty much discounts your two points. One, they come hear for jobs. Two, look at them get around that fence. If you think a fence will solve the problem you are mistaken. What you need to do is put troops on th eborder, improve electronic surveillance on the border. Take troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan and put them on our border.

Israel, for example, doesn't just have a fence, they have heavy concentrations of troops and electronic surveillance. America should have a border policy similar to Israel.

Thor  posted on  2009-12-18   19:41:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Thor (#39)

GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME.

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