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Title: Trump to Palestinian Authority: No More Aid, No More Talking, No More Anything Until You Commit to Peace
Source: TimesOfIsrael via AoS
URL Source: http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=373538
Published: Jan 25, 2018
Author: Ace
Post Date: 2018-01-25 17:57:07 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 8213
Comments: 86

This Trump is so boorish. I wish we had a well-spoken chubby-faced College Boy like Marco who would talk tough for conservative crowds and then pursue the perpetual pay-off-the-Palestinians plan that the Establishment prefers.

Oh well. We'll just have to take the crudity of words backed up by actual action instead of more words.

In unscripted remarks to the press on Thursday, US President Donald Trump said the US would no longer transfer monetary aid to the Palestinians unless they entered peace negotiations with Israel, and excoriated the Palestinian leadership’s reaction to his decision last month to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital.

"That money is not going to them unless they sit down and negotiate peace, because I can tell you that Israel does want to make peace, and they’re going to have to want to make peace, too, or we’re going to have nothing to do with it any longer," he said.


Poster Comment:

Haley is toeing the same line at the U.N. in a showdown with the Pali scumbag.

Twitchy:

Nikki Haley destroyed Mahmoud Abbas during the UN Security Council meeting … we love this woman.
Nikki Haley skewers Mahmoud Abbas at UN Security Council meeting https://t.co/UDnGcYKOoH

— Fox News (@FoxNews) January 25, 2018

From Fox News:
U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley launched a broadside Thursday at Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, accusing him of indulging in “outrageous” conspiracy theories about Israel and lacking what is needed to secure peace in the region.

Haley made the remarks at a meeting of the U.N. Security Council on the Middle East. She pointedly contrasted Abbas with leaders like the late Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, whom she cited as a leader “willing to step forward, acknowledge hard truths, and make compromises.”

“Where is the Palestinian Anwar Sadat?” she asked

She made Abbas SO mad …
“We will not accept for the U.S. to be a mediator, because after what they have done to us — a believer shall not be stung twice in the same place,” Abbas said, according to The New York Times.

Responding to U.S. threats to pull funding for the Palestianian Authority, he said: “Damn your money.”

DAMN.

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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

because I can tell you that Israel does want to make peace, and they’re going to have to want to make peace, too,

I am not convinced Israel wants peace at all, except possibly on the condition that the Palestinians officially accept their second rate status. Israel will not accept a 2 state solution even if it means peace, though I'd love to be proven wrong.

Of course Israel will claim they do want peace. If Trump were to make the same ultimatum to Israel it would be interesting to see the reaction. Maybe a 2 state solution OR no more money type deal. AIPAC would go anti-trump in an instant.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-01-25   18:17:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pinguinite (#1)

AIPAC, like AMA and ABA and AARP, are just not the powerhouses they once were. They still have influence but pols just aren't very scared of them any more.

Chamber of Commerce is, by itself, probably more powerful than the 4 I listed combined. And a half-dozen more. CoC is very powerful. In many ways, they are the primary muck in the Beltway swamp.

I found it interesting that Trump just happened to launch this threat to defund the Palis, had Haley reinforce it by telling off Abbas to his face, and all just as he arrived at Davos. Imagine their faces! LOL

I saw Times of Israel also reported that France's new prez, Macron, had said he will not recognize Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital but he otherwise will stick with the EU idea that Jerusalem should be a capital for both states in a two-state solution. It's not unthinkable, every peace plan has always had this concept in it.

A handful of small EU countries like Slovenia had been trying to agitate for EU countries to recognize Palestine as a state and its capital as Jerusalem, in effect granting Palestine the status of a nation. That would be a prelude to demanding that Palestine be given a seat at the U.N. So France won't be a part of that. And they do still hold a veto on the Security Council.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-25   18:43:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Tooconservative (#2)

I saw Times of Israel also reported that France's new prez, Macron, had said he will not recognize Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital but he otherwise will stick with the EU idea that Jerusalem should be a capital for both states in a two-state solution.

That's mighty WHITE of the Micro-Leader. And French. Maybe Trump out to move our French embassy to Marseilles. JUST BECAUSE.

I realize you know this, but it bears repeating: Jerusalem has been historically JEWISH and the de facto capital of Israel for over 2000 years.

The EU "idea" of a bi-capital for an alleged "two-state solution" makes as much sense as the EU's suicidal importation/invitation of Muzzie invaders, looters, rapists, and terrorists.

The EU's agenda is a literal occultist, One-World dictatorship in any case. Much like the Democrat Party in the US, the EU/UN are focused on "Divide & Conquer" tactics, lies, and propaganda...

As of late, even the subversive Vatican has stepped out of the closet to support the occultist One-World Gubmint agenda.

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-28   13:23:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Liberator (#45)

I realize you know this, but it bears repeating: Jerusalem has been historically JEWISH and the de facto capital of Israel for over 2000 years.

"De facto" means something that is true in practice but not otherwise technically true or legally true. I'm unclear on when Jews were supposedly exiled from the "holy land" during or after Roman rule (it seems from your sentence you believe some Jews have been there the entire time, even under hundreds of years of Muslim rule). But clearly, Jerusalem was not any de facto capital of Israel in those intervening centuries up until 1948 as Israel as a country did not exist.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-01-30   15:21:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Pinguinite (#65)

The Jewish people bought the land they live in, including Palestine around 1900. It is well documented the land was hardly occupied at the time. In fact, it was a combination of deserts and disease infested swamps. They bought it from greedy Arabs at inflated prices who laughed at the dumb Jews. They, through hard work and effort made it liveable.

Once the Jews created a great environment, Arabs were hired as laborers. Later they became squatters on legally purchase land. That is who are the so-called Palestinians today.

Why can't you understand the Arabs don't want peace with the Jews? I don't think you want to understand it.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-01-30   15:41:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: no gnu taxes (#72)

The Jewish people bought the land they live in, including Palestine around 1900. It is well documented the land was hardly occupied at the time. In fact, it was a combination of deserts and disease infested swamps.

I've never heard of any part of Israel having swamps.

They bought it from greedy Arabs at inflated prices who laughed at the dumb Jews.

And I suppose if I sold you the Brooklyn bridge, that would make it yours also?

They, through hard work and effort made it liveable.

I thought it was the land "flowing with milk and honey". You make it sound more like Utah, where the Mormans settled and worked because no one else wanted to live there.

Once the Jews created a great environment, Arabs were hired as laborers. Later they became squatters on legally purchase land. That is who are the so-called Palestinians today.

Sounds like a very convenient story book tale for kids. Does it end with "and they lived happily ever after?"

Why can't you understand the Arabs don't want peace with the Jews? I don't think you want to understand it.

Because in real life, things are more complex than that. It's easy to grab onto and hold a small little belief like that and never let go -- it makes it much easier to dismiss any need for critical thought.

So lets' try some critical thought. Who were the Arabs the Jews supposedly bought the land from? Were they nobility? Probably not as I doubt there was anything approaching nobility in the Arab culture in 1900. How much did they pay? For how much land did they pay it? What authority or right did these mysterious Arabs sell the land? Did any of that money go to the people that were living there? If there was no one living there, why would these Jews pay anyone at all to move in?

Can you answer any of these questions? Or is it just easier to say Muslims hate Jews and be done with it?

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-01-30   15:58:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#76. To: Pinguinite (#75)

I've never heard of any part of Israel having swamps.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170927-lord-balfours-nephew-palestine-was-a-swamp-before-israel/

The rest of your questions and comments are just empty rhetoric.

The Jew have legally owned the land they cultivated.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-01-30 16:07:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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