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Title: Trump to Palestinian Authority: No More Aid, No More Talking, No More Anything Until You Commit to Peace
Source: TimesOfIsrael via AoS
URL Source: http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=373538
Published: Jan 25, 2018
Author: Ace
Post Date: 2018-01-25 17:57:07 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 8217
Comments: 86

This Trump is so boorish. I wish we had a well-spoken chubby-faced College Boy like Marco who would talk tough for conservative crowds and then pursue the perpetual pay-off-the-Palestinians plan that the Establishment prefers.

Oh well. We'll just have to take the crudity of words backed up by actual action instead of more words.

In unscripted remarks to the press on Thursday, US President Donald Trump said the US would no longer transfer monetary aid to the Palestinians unless they entered peace negotiations with Israel, and excoriated the Palestinian leadership’s reaction to his decision last month to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital.

"That money is not going to them unless they sit down and negotiate peace, because I can tell you that Israel does want to make peace, and they’re going to have to want to make peace, too, or we’re going to have nothing to do with it any longer," he said.


Poster Comment:

Haley is toeing the same line at the U.N. in a showdown with the Pali scumbag.

Twitchy:

Nikki Haley destroyed Mahmoud Abbas during the UN Security Council meeting … we love this woman.
Nikki Haley skewers Mahmoud Abbas at UN Security Council meeting https://t.co/UDnGcYKOoH

— Fox News (@FoxNews) January 25, 2018

From Fox News:
U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley launched a broadside Thursday at Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, accusing him of indulging in “outrageous” conspiracy theories about Israel and lacking what is needed to secure peace in the region.

Haley made the remarks at a meeting of the U.N. Security Council on the Middle East. She pointedly contrasted Abbas with leaders like the late Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, whom she cited as a leader “willing to step forward, acknowledge hard truths, and make compromises.”

“Where is the Palestinian Anwar Sadat?” she asked

She made Abbas SO mad …
“We will not accept for the U.S. to be a mediator, because after what they have done to us — a believer shall not be stung twice in the same place,” Abbas said, according to The New York Times.

Responding to U.S. threats to pull funding for the Palestianian Authority, he said: “Damn your money.”

DAMN.

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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

because I can tell you that Israel does want to make peace, and they’re going to have to want to make peace, too,

I am not convinced Israel wants peace at all, except possibly on the condition that the Palestinians officially accept their second rate status. Israel will not accept a 2 state solution even if it means peace, though I'd love to be proven wrong.

Of course Israel will claim they do want peace. If Trump were to make the same ultimatum to Israel it would be interesting to see the reaction. Maybe a 2 state solution OR no more money type deal. AIPAC would go anti-trump in an instant.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-01-25   18:17:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pinguinite (#1)

AIPAC, like AMA and ABA and AARP, are just not the powerhouses they once were. They still have influence but pols just aren't very scared of them any more.

Chamber of Commerce is, by itself, probably more powerful than the 4 I listed combined. And a half-dozen more. CoC is very powerful. In many ways, they are the primary muck in the Beltway swamp.

I found it interesting that Trump just happened to launch this threat to defund the Palis, had Haley reinforce it by telling off Abbas to his face, and all just as he arrived at Davos. Imagine their faces! LOL

I saw Times of Israel also reported that France's new prez, Macron, had said he will not recognize Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital but he otherwise will stick with the EU idea that Jerusalem should be a capital for both states in a two-state solution. It's not unthinkable, every peace plan has always had this concept in it.

A handful of small EU countries like Slovenia had been trying to agitate for EU countries to recognize Palestine as a state and its capital as Jerusalem, in effect granting Palestine the status of a nation. That would be a prelude to demanding that Palestine be given a seat at the U.N. So France won't be a part of that. And they do still hold a veto on the Security Council.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-25   18:43:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Tooconservative (#2)

I saw Times of Israel also reported that France's new prez, Macron, had said he will not recognize Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital but he otherwise will stick with the EU idea that Jerusalem should be a capital for both states in a two-state solution.

That's mighty WHITE of the Micro-Leader. And French. Maybe Trump out to move our French embassy to Marseilles. JUST BECAUSE.

I realize you know this, but it bears repeating: Jerusalem has been historically JEWISH and the de facto capital of Israel for over 2000 years.

The EU "idea" of a bi-capital for an alleged "two-state solution" makes as much sense as the EU's suicidal importation/invitation of Muzzie invaders, looters, rapists, and terrorists.

The EU's agenda is a literal occultist, One-World dictatorship in any case. Much like the Democrat Party in the US, the EU/UN are focused on "Divide & Conquer" tactics, lies, and propaganda...

As of late, even the subversive Vatican has stepped out of the closet to support the occultist One-World Gubmint agenda.

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-28   13:23:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Liberator (#45)

I realize you know this, but it bears repeating: Jerusalem has been historically JEWISH and the de facto capital of Israel for over 2000 years.

There have been many eras with widely varying Jewish population in Jerusalem and across the lands of ancient Israel.

It's a very long history.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-28   13:44:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Tooconservative (#46) (Edited)

There have been many eras with widely varying Jewish population in Jerusalem and across the lands of ancient Israel.

It's a very long history.

Yes, it is a very long history; Keyword: "Ancient." Jerusalem has been strongly associated with Israel historically longer and more legitimately than any other nation on the planet. If ever a case could be made for a nation's "Capital," "Jerusalem" is at the very top of the list.

Despite the many conquests and occupations by foreigners, Jerusalem has never stopped being the unofficial capital of Israel.

Historically and culturally -- Jerusalem more than any nation on earth -- merits and warrants official recognition and respect as a capital city of its people. In this case, obviously of Israel.

Any political proposal that suggests any other nation "share" its capital -- especially Jerusalem; especially with Muslims; especially the contrived "Palestine" -- is too bogus for words, based on a lie, and ...frankly, insulting to one's intelligence.

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-28   14:04:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Liberator (#48)

Jerusalem has been strongly associated with Israel historically longer and more legitimately than any other nation on the planet.

The Chinese and especially the Japanese would dispute that. Others as well. Although I'm not saying that Jews have not had a substantial presence there throughout history.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-28   15:29:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Tooconservative (#50)

The Chinese and especially the Japanese would dispute that. Others as well.

Expected. They might.

Wouldn't change the truth of the matter. The time line and continued historical documentation of Jerusalem as strongly associated with Israel is indisputable. That's even without laying the whole, "But God said Jerusalem and Israel are both the Jews' land!" out there.

Although I'm not saying that Jews have not had a substantial presence there throughout history.

You or anyone could challenge the assertion, but the Jews' constant and continued heavy presence and ownership in Jerusalem would still be true. They never abandoned the ship.

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-28   16:07:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Liberator (#51)

but the Jews' constant and continued heavy presence and ownership in Jerusalem would still be true. They never abandoned the ship.

Okay, then we should also point out that if true, then the Muslims did not exterminate them when they conquered the place even for hundreds of years. So if Muslims instinctively hate Jews as per your previous ref of the Koran, then why didn't they take them out when they had the chance? (I assumed your reference was that Muslims should kill Jews but... perhaps not?)

It would seem that during this time, the Muslims did not view Jews (or actually Israel) as they do today. So what changed?

Obviously Israel was created. Perhaps the beef Muslims have are less religious and more political than is commonly portrayed or assumed?

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