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Title: Trump to Palestinian Authority: No More Aid, No More Talking, No More Anything Until You Commit to Peace
Source: TimesOfIsrael via AoS
URL Source: http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=373538
Published: Jan 25, 2018
Author: Ace
Post Date: 2018-01-25 17:57:07 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 10992
Comments: 86

This Trump is so boorish. I wish we had a well-spoken chubby-faced College Boy like Marco who would talk tough for conservative crowds and then pursue the perpetual pay-off-the-Palestinians plan that the Establishment prefers.

Oh well. We'll just have to take the crudity of words backed up by actual action instead of more words.

In unscripted remarks to the press on Thursday, US President Donald Trump said the US would no longer transfer monetary aid to the Palestinians unless they entered peace negotiations with Israel, and excoriated the Palestinian leadership’s reaction to his decision last month to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital.

"That money is not going to them unless they sit down and negotiate peace, because I can tell you that Israel does want to make peace, and they’re going to have to want to make peace, too, or we’re going to have nothing to do with it any longer," he said.


Poster Comment:

Haley is toeing the same line at the U.N. in a showdown with the Pali scumbag.

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Nikki Haley destroyed Mahmoud Abbas during the UN Security Council meeting … we love this woman.
Nikki Haley skewers Mahmoud Abbas at UN Security Council meeting https://t.co/UDnGcYKOoH

— Fox News (@FoxNews) January 25, 2018

From Fox News:
U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley launched a broadside Thursday at Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, accusing him of indulging in “outrageous” conspiracy theories about Israel and lacking what is needed to secure peace in the region.

Haley made the remarks at a meeting of the U.N. Security Council on the Middle East. She pointedly contrasted Abbas with leaders like the late Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, whom she cited as a leader “willing to step forward, acknowledge hard truths, and make compromises.”

“Where is the Palestinian Anwar Sadat?” she asked

She made Abbas SO mad …
“We will not accept for the U.S. to be a mediator, because after what they have done to us — a believer shall not be stung twice in the same place,” Abbas said, according to The New York Times.

Responding to U.S. threats to pull funding for the Palestianian Authority, he said: “Damn your money.”

DAMN.

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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

because I can tell you that Israel does want to make peace, and they’re going to have to want to make peace, too,

I am not convinced Israel wants peace at all, except possibly on the condition that the Palestinians officially accept their second rate status. Israel will not accept a 2 state solution even if it means peace, though I'd love to be proven wrong.

Of course Israel will claim they do want peace. If Trump were to make the same ultimatum to Israel it would be interesting to see the reaction. Maybe a 2 state solution OR no more money type deal. AIPAC would go anti-trump in an instant.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-01-25   18:17:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Pinguinite (#1)

I am not convinced Israel wants peace at all...

Huh??

All they've done is extend the olive branch while ceding land back to their perpetually hostile Muzzie tormentors after gaining it it two major wars (started of course BY Muzzie neighbors.)

Ping, you do understand the Koran's commandments with respect to Jews (I assume)?

Arafat was offered land, territory that would be considered a "Palestinian state" but rejected it. He took the money and the perpetual victimhood. Oh. And their "deal" is to occupy Israel. No compromise.

*It needs to be noted that there is no "Palestinian" people, nor "Palestinian" culture, history, or semblance of gubmint or official leader UNTIL the sliver-state of Israel was re-established in 1948 (btw, their share of sovereign land was originally promised to be far greater -- until the Brits decided to give the vast majority of territory to Muslim pan-Jordan.)

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-28   13:10:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#63. To: Liberator (#43)

All they've done is extend the olive branch while ceding land back to their perpetually hostile Muzzie tormentors after gaining it it two major wars (started of course BY Muzzie neighbors.)

Well, I think the 67 war was technically started by Israel, though possibly preemptively as it appeared Egypt and friends were building up.

But in any event, the current occupation of non-Israel land by Israeli forces is obvious, and the blockade of those people instituted by Israel is not in dispute. There are many goods you can buy in the hardware store that is not permitted into Gaza, which is in act of war if done aganist any other country. So no, the olive branch reference you gave is very wrong. Those under Israel's thumb are, without question, oppressed by Israel. Israel sees that as necessary to protect themselves, while Palestinians see that as a legitimate reason to hate Israelis. If Israel were to agree to a two state solution, the resulting government would have an interest in keeping Palestinians in line, in addition to allowing the people to be happier with more prosperous economic conditions. But it seems Israel prefers the oppressive situation with it's occasional terrorist acts and controversial world image than to treat Palestinians as a sovereign people.

Ping, you do understand the Koran's commandments with respect to Jews (I assume)?

I suppose I do. Just like I understand the Torah's commandments with respect to tribes foreign to ancient Israel. Seriously, I don't think the Koran is any worse than the Torah/Old testament in regard to how their respective non-believers are to be treated. In any event, many Muslims are indeed peaceful and loving, just as many Jews and Christians are. And all three of those groups have also produced those who engage in violence for religious/political ends.

Arafat was offered land, territory that would be considered a "Palestinian state" but rejected it. He took the money and the perpetual victimhood. Oh. And their "deal" is to occupy Israel. No compromise.

Maybe Arafat responded in his own interests, or maybe that deal was not the great thing for his people as you believe it was. From your writings, does appear you are biased, as I'm sure you'd agree.

*It needs to be noted that there is no "Palestinian" people, nor "Palestinian" culture, history, or semblance of gubmint or official leader UNTIL the sliver-state of Israel was re-established in 1948 (btw, their share of sovereign land was originally promised to be far greater -- until the Brits decided to give the vast majority of territory to Muslim pan-Jordan.)

Some zionists suggest the land was completely vacant when Jews returned there in 1948, and that all the Palestinians et al decided after that to move in. As I discussed earlier on this thread, I find that scenario very unlikely as once a land is inhabited, it's pretty much inhabited for all time thereafter. Even when a people is exiled from a place, the force that exiles them don't do it only to then vacate the place themselves. That just doesn't happen. When Jews returned to present day Israel, the people living there probably saw them as illegal aliens or perhaps "undocumented immigrants". Whatever oppression Jews suffered at the hands of Germany during WWII, it was not the doing of the people living in the middle east, and yet they had to and must continue to pay the price for a European country's sins.

Yes, I think it was Britain that was responsible for actually creating national boundries in the middle east, just as they did in Africa. Prior to that it was just borderless and tribal. But the borders created much larger kingdoms placing conflicting tribes under a single rule that created more serious conflict. I don't know that Britain carving up these two land masses did anyone other than Britain any favors.

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