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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In International News See other International News Articles Title: Trump to Palestinian Authority: No More Aid, No More Talking, No More Anything Until You Commit to Peace Source: TimesOfIsrael via AoS URL Source: http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=373538 Published: Jan 25, 2018 Author: Ace Post Date: 2018-01-25 17:57:07 by Tooconservative Keywords: None Views: 8222 Comments: 86 This Trump is so boorish. I wish we had a well-spoken chubby-faced College Boy like Marco who would talk tough for conservative crowds and then pursue the perpetual pay-off-the-Palestinians plan that the Establishment prefers. Oh well. We'll just have to take the crudity of words backed up by actual action instead of more words. In unscripted remarks to the press on Thursday, US President Donald Trump said the US would no longer transfer monetary aid to the Palestinians unless they entered peace negotiations with Israel, and excoriated the Palestinian leadership’s reaction to his decision last month to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital. "That money is not going to them unless they sit down and negotiate peace, because I can tell you that Israel does want to make peace, and they’re going to have to want to make peace, too, or we’re going to have nothing to do with it any longer," he said. Poster Comment: Haley is toeing the same line at the U.N. in a showdown with the Pali scumbag. Twitchy: Nikki Haley destroyed Mahmoud Abbas during the UN Security Council meeting … we love this woman. Nikki Haley skewers Mahmoud Abbas at UN Security Council meeting https://t.co/UDnGcYKOoH — Fox News (@FoxNews) January 25, 2018 From Fox News: U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley launched a broadside Thursday at Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, accusing him of indulging in “outrageous” conspiracy theories about Israel and lacking what is needed to secure peace in the region. Haley made the remarks at a meeting of the U.N. Security Council on the Middle East. She pointedly contrasted Abbas with leaders like the late Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, whom she cited as a leader “willing to step forward, acknowledge hard truths, and make compromises.” “Where is the Palestinian Anwar Sadat?” she asked She made Abbas SO mad … “We will not accept for the U.S. to be a mediator, because after what they have done to us — a believer shall not be stung twice in the same place,” Abbas said, according to The New York Times. Responding to U.S. threats to pull funding for the Palestianian Authority, he said: “Damn your money.” DAMN. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 40. #1. To: Tooconservative (#0) because I can tell you that Israel does want to make peace, and they’re going to have to want to make peace, too, I am not convinced Israel wants peace at all, except possibly on the condition that the Palestinians officially accept their second rate status. Israel will not accept a 2 state solution even if it means peace, though I'd love to be proven wrong. Of course Israel will claim they do want peace. If Trump were to make the same ultimatum to Israel it would be interesting to see the reaction. Maybe a 2 state solution OR no more money type deal. AIPAC would go anti-trump in an instant. Pinguinite  posted on  2018-01-25   18:17:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: Pinguinite (#1) I get it. You are a card carrying Jew hater, and you have demonstrated that many times. You would have been dancing around like Bojangles while Jew kids were burned alive in concentration camp ovens. The so-called Palestinians are just Arab terrorists being used by Arabs as an excuse to conduct terror acts against Jews. Any Arab country has plenty of money to fully take care of these people, but of course they don't want to. no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-01-26   8:21:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: no gnu taxes, Pinguinite (#22) You are a card carrying Jew hater, and you have demonstrated that many times. You would have been dancing around like Bojangles while Jew kids were burned alive in concentration camp ovens. That really is pretty harsh. I've never seen him say anything like that. Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-26   12:17:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: Tooconservative (#35) All I have ever seen him do is support every bogus grievance against the Jews, especially Israel. So I guess I don't worry about being harsh. no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-01-26   12:31:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: no gnu taxes, Tooconservative (#36) All I have ever seen him do is support every bogus grievance against the Jews, especially Israel. You know, I was at the store yesterday and when I wasn't thinking about what I needed to buy, my mind wandered to this accusation, and it occurred to me that maybe it was my speculation that the rule for inherited jewry was based on birth by a Jewish mother was because it allowed Jewish men to disregard responsibility for their extramarital activities with gentile women. Was that what set you off? Rest assured, rules, particularly religious ones, have historically been made by us guys. Women have largely had no say in them, at least prior to 50 years ago and that bias certainly rears it's head. In the case of Judaism, I fault it for advocating a racial or religious based supremecy: You know the "we're God's chosen people" line. Putin once warned us Americans about the dangers of any people considering themselves exceptional, that after Obama made the claim for us Americans. Putin was right, and the same principle applies to Jews. No people should consider themselves more privileged then the rest of the world, and it's especially dangerous when it's religiously based. In my opinion we can see that in the attitudes of many Israeli jews in regards to illegal settlements and the general treatment of not just Palestinians. (i.e God gave us this holy land so everyone here should get the hell off it or die). Essentially, the basic tenant of Judaism (and please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) is that non-jews pretty much exist for the benefit of jews. It's actually not unlike how we as humans regard the existence of cattle, though of course not to that level. Christian zionists obviously enable this type of thinking, and of course they largely agree with it, as Judaism is without dispute the father of Christianity. But to be clear, I'm not just picking on Judaism. Islam has it's supremecy tenants also, though it's not ethnically based (perhaps one tiny consolation with that faith). Their problem is it sex-based. The whole 72 virgins bit. Women are basically chattel ... property of men, and at some point centuries ago, perhaps dating back to even Mohammed, the guys there decided that paradise must like a brothel. I suppose that was due to the limits of their imagination, or perhaps sex was the only thing that gave them any kind of respite from a life perhaps devoid of any other physical enjoyments. So with Islam, women pay the price and with Judaism, gentiles pay the price. So assuming you are not simply confusing me with someone else who actually posts Jew-hating material (which maybe you are) it could be instead that I am simply open to criticizing Judaism just like I'll criticize any other faith or idea. Perhaps you, on the other hand, consider Jews to be God's Chosen People such that saying anything about them that does not cast them in a favorable light is automatically Jew hating or anti-semitic. If that's the case, then I'll leave the labeling in your little world to you. I do have though at least one Jewish friend. I went to a bar mitzvah for his daughter many, many years ago, and I sat down for lunch with him a couple months back. He's a great guy. He loves people and he would have paid for my meal had I let him. Well he did, actually. I just insisted on paying the tip. I don't know how you are going to sort all this out in your simple black n white world, but I guess you have some homework to do now, assuming you choose to do it. Cheers.... Pinguinite  posted on  2018-01-27   21:37:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: Pinguinite (#38) (Edited) In my opinion we can see that in the attitudes of many Israeli jews in regards to illegal settlements and the general treatment of not just Palestinians. (i.e God gave us this holy land so everyone here should get the hell off it or die). Essentially, the basic tenant of Judaism (and please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) is that non-jews pretty much exist for the benefit of jews. It's actually not unlike how we as humans regard the existence of cattle, though of course not to that level. I think you overstate or misinterpret this. Jews, coming from such an ancient culture, do naturally consider Gentiles as transient peoples, always getting conquered, adrift in history. Naturally, they will seek their own advantage. And this is a characteristic of all the Semitic peoples. Arabs are certainly that way, just not as competently as Jews have become because of their considerable education and cultural diversity. And modern Jews are simply not the Jews of yesteryear. In Israel, they still maintain a pretty consistent Jewish culture. But the larger majority of Jews scattered around the world (Europe, North and South America, etc.) no longer have that cultural solidarity. The rabbis have worried for years about the rates of intermarriage, about Jewish men marrying Gentile women (or vice versa), about all the issues involving intermarriage and children. And gay marriage has made it worse, with some wealthy Jews wanting their Jewish sons to marry their Catholic boyfriend and give them a few little adopted Chinese girls to play the role of granddaughter. This is a long and increasingly bitter debate among the various denominations and endless organizations that Jews debate these issues in. Judaism, especially in the Diaspora, just isn't nearly as Jewish as it used to be. Those old cultural norms have broken, perhaps irrevocably. And the rabbis and older generation can't get the younger generation to see it as anything important. Very upsetting to the traditionalists to consider that in 20 years, only 15%-20% of all Jews in the world will be married to a Jewish spouse. They also worry about producing enough children because they are well-below replacement rates (other than Orthodox Jews who have tons of kids). The Ashkenazim aren't exactly happy that the future of Judaism are the Orthodox Jews merely due to their prolific breeding. These are not happy topics of discussion for Jewish leaders. I'll repeat that BBC link from above. Look at what Bibi's brother-in-law is saying about the rumors that Bibi's son is dating a Norwegian Gentile. BBC: The Jewish fear of intermarriage Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-27   22:06:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: Tooconservative (#39) I'm certainly not opposed to Jews cherishing their faith to the point of wanting to have pure Jewish marriages. My only beef is an apparent tenant of superiority that, okay, some of them have about being God's chosen. The video I posted illustrates the attitude well. Christians recognize that God loves everyone equally no matter their genes, origins or sins, but Judaism simply doesn't go along with that, at least as far as the old testament goes. Orthodox Jews would be at the forefront of this error, naturally. Moderate & peaceful Muslims have to deal with accusations about how the Koran states that unbelievers must be executed. They accept the passages as real, of course but dismiss it as being either antiquated teaching or needing to be taken in proper context of the day. So it seems both peaceful Muslims and progressive Jews have that difficulty in common. I remember Sally, AKA Goldi-lox of LP, a converted Jew, telling me on the phone once how Jews were not allowed ot charge fellow Jews interest on loans. If a white organization were to announce such a policy to fellow whites, it would certainly be a basis of serious accusation of white supremacy. But of course, you cannot accuse or ever suggest Judaism is a supremacist faith without risking being called an Jew hater or anti-semite, which, as you've seen, happened to me on this thread. Well, I guess my sin was in suggesting one Jewish tenant, however old it's origins may be, may have been formulated to excuse parental responsibility of Jewish men who have sex with gentile women. Pinguinite  posted on  2018-01-28   12:00:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 40. #41. To: Pinguinite (#40) Christians recognize that God loves everyone equally no matter their genes, origins or sins, but Judaism simply doesn't go along with that, at least as far as the old testament goes. Deuteronomy 10:19 “Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.” A K A Stone  posted on  2018-01-28 12:14:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #42. To: Pinguinite (#40) I remember Sally, AKA Goldi-lox of LP, a converted Jew, telling me on the phone once how Jews were not allowed ot charge fellow Jews interest on loans. She never did convert. She flirted with it but didn't carry through. So maybe a Gentile woman isn't the most reliable source of info. And, yes, Jews do charge interest to other Jews. Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-28 12:33:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 40. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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