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Title: Over a Dozen Cops Swarm, Arrest Tiny Girl For Sitting Incorrectly on the Subway
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URL Source: http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.c ... ting-incorrectly-subway/216980
Published: Jan 23, 2018
Author: Jack Burns
Post Date: 2018-01-24 05:52:15 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 9283
Comments: 97
Los Angeles, CA — Dramatic footage has just been released showing 18-year-old Bethany Nava, a West Hollywood resident, getting arrested for having her foot on the subway seat in front of her. According to the Facebook live video, Nava was riding the Red Line Metrorail when the confrontation with police occurred. An unnamed LAPD officer, a sergeant, had reportedly asked Nava to remove her foot from an adjoining seat but she didn’t immediately comply. “It doesn’t matter. You’re getting off the train right now. I already told you what to do but you disobeyed me,” he told her in a normal voice. He then ordered her to stand up and told her she would be getting off the train at the next stop. “I paid to be on the train, asshole!” Nava told the officer as he laid his hands on her and pushed her off the train. ”I’m 18. He’s taking me off the train for having my foot on the fucking seat,” she told the person recording. The officer whose badge number is 5203, was then surrounded by concerned citizens who accused him of abusing his badge and being on a power trip. ”You’re a fucking scumbag,” said Selena Lechuga, a concerned citizen who came to Nara’s defense and calling into question the officer’s actions in forcing the teenager off the train. “You’re impeding my investigation. Back away,” he told Lechuga. During the altercation, Nara attempted to flex her rights when the sergeant asked her for her ID. “I was on my way to the DMV. I have to meet my mother to get my ID. Cause I just turned 18. This is not fucking fair that you took me off the train because I had my foot there because I was comfortable like that. There is no law that tells me that I cannot sit that way because I PAID TO BE IN THERE!” Nara screamed. “It’s the rules of the train,” the officer stated. “What’s the fucking rules of the train,” she asked. Both Nara and Lechuga asked the officer to provide the rules of the train for them to read. “I don’t have any fucking ID I was about to go to the DMV to get it…I should not be going to jail right now!” she exclaimed. “I don’t have any form of ID. I don’t have any drugs. I don’t have anything that you can arrest me for! My foot was on a chair…what kind of fucking conflicts do you have that you need to take me off the train that I paid for,” she asked. “Nobody was trying to sit in the chair.” Soon after, backup officers arrived. Instead of questioning the validity of the arrest, they promptly placed the two ladies in handcuffs and carted them off to jail. According to CBS News LA, both women were cited for disorderly conduct on the train. However, that charge is now being called into question. One could argue the entire incident was started when the police officer escalated the conflict by demanding Nara forfeit her fare and leave the train. It was then and only then when tempers began to flare and choice words were used. While the officer appeared to just be doing his job, how he handled it will likely be seen as professional by supporters of law enforcement, and abusive by freedom loving citizens. Perusing through YouTube one can find a myriad of videos where citizens claim to have been harassed while riding the Metro. It’s unclear exactly how Nara was sitting which prompted the officer to remove her from the train, but de-escalation techniques could have been implemented. The entire incident may serve to illustrate just how easy it is to become a criminal in LA. Sitting on the seat incorrectly can now get you arrested.
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#2. To: Deckard (#0)
If there are posted rules for "no feet on the seats", there is nothing wrong with this arrest. Also, the floors of subways and subway stations along with the streets in general are regular cesspools of filth. Not just dirt but dangerous bacteria, fecal matter, etc. So putting feet up on seats could pose a health risk to others by contaminating those seats. People on subways and trains can also put their feet up on adjacent seats or splay out so as to prevent anyone else from sitting near them, blocking them from occupying seats that they had paid for, possibly forcing them to stand. The cop did nothing wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of subway riders want the cops to stand up to these punks.
"if"... "rules"...?? Apparently, a lot of bystanders who probably use the subway frequently sided with the girl against the cop. That's generally a sign that the girl's sitting habits were acceptable norms on this subway. If there were "rules" (and not laws) against putting feet up on seats, the cop could have handled it in a much more amicable and friendly way, such as asking nicely and pointing out the health reason for it. But for too many cops, getting belligerent and physical with arrests is the only way to get messages across. You certainly have a thing about fecal matter lately.
L.A. has been a hive of cop-haters for decades. No surprise that a crowd will gather to jibe at cops for most any reason. Many cities in CA are like this. Because a lot of dumbasses apparently have forgotten what we know about the outbreak of preventable diseases in public health policy. Apparently, that would include you. How about the recent major hepatitus outbreak in CA? LA Times, 10/17: Since November, 481 people there have fallen ill, including 17 who died, according to Dr. Eric McDonald with the county’s health department. An additional 57 cases are under investigation, he said. Hepatitis A is commonly transmitted through contaminated food. The only outbreak in the last 20 years bigger than California’s occurred in Pennsylvania in 2003, when more than 900 people were infected after eating contaminated green onions at a restaurant. California’s outbreak, however, is spreading from person to person, mostly among the homeless community. The virus is transmitted from feces to mouth, so unsanitary conditions make it more likely to spread. The city of San Diego has installed dozens of handwashing stations and begun cleaning streets with bleach-spiked water in recent weeks. McDonald said county health workers have vaccinated 57,000 people in the county who are either homeless, drug users or people in close contact with either group. . . .
Regardless of politics, police should conform to the societal norms of the people they police. It's not the role of police to force a new standard of conduct upon entire societies. Sigh.....
What if their societal norm is peddling narcotics to children, molesting children and other helpless persons, letting pimps engage in white slavery, or just defying the law in general on principle? Do you understand the basic concept of rule of law? Sigh...
I'm no longer interested in discussing this topic with you.
"if"... "rules"...?? It is neither “if” nor “rules”. It is the “law.” The officer acted properly in accordance with Los Angeles City Ordinance Sections 6-05-40(A),6-05-100,6-05- 110,6-05-150,6-05-230(C) and Section 6-05-240(A) when he was directed and assigned duty aboard the Red Line Metrorail. Because of recent passengers complaints about the many various problems. the LAPD assigned officers to trains when they launched a recent crackdown on violations including eating, drinking, vaping, gambling, littering and placing feet or shoes on seats. The Ordinance was enacted pursuant to the authority granted to Metro by the California Penal Code Section 640(e) and the California Public Utilities Code Section 99580, et seq.
coward
I decided to look for rules for LA subway riders. We find this on page 15 of L.A.'s Metro Rules and Regulations:
It has to be pretty bad because normally the subway is the jurisdiction of the sheriff's department, not the LAPD. It only makes things worse because L.A. has buses and subways that use fabric-covered seats, a breeding ground for all kinds of bacteria, viruses, fecal material, even fleas and crabs.
Tough titty. Bozo me if you can't take it.
You are wrong, it was the role of this officer because he was assigned to the train with directed duty to enforce the Metro Code of Conduct Ordinance as amended on 05/01/2017.
It is so very easy to understand why ...
I liked it when the backup cops showed up, handcuffed the "tiny girl", then handcuffed the fat ugly bitch who was interfering. They should have hauled off the lib pussyboi who kept encouraging the others to disobey the police. "This is racism!". LOL
Tough titty. Bozo me if you can't take it. Listen dude. I'm not the one that posted not one, but TWO photos of people defecating in public. On. this. site. YOU did that. Not me. You didn't need to do that to convey the point the article made, but you CHOSE to do that. And now there's more fecal discussion on you responses here, and solely because of that one single sentence where I point that out, you are throwing a hissy fit inviting me to bozo you. Get a grip. Maybe on youself. Feel free to interpret that in any manner you wish, vulgar or not.
"not interested" = "coward". You are very smart.
Well, thanks for your astute observation.
“This is another fine mess you tried to get someone to understand this morning, Ollie”.
coward Sound good ...
Listen dude. Ah, you got to him ... Good for your !!!
Why, the observation is not astute in the least. Your intellectual capacity is plainly obvious to all. But I'm glad my comment makes you feel good. I've done my good deed for the day.
I was driving home the point that these African shitholes are, literally, shitholes. If the truth offends you, so be it.
As is yours, senor. Hey, how often do the ferries go out to the Galapagos Islands?
Your astute observation and comment made me feel good....thanks.
Galliwiki: Public Ferry Schedules in the Galapagos Islands, 2016 Travel from Ecuador to the Galopagos by boat is possible but these are cargo ships and have very basic accommodations. They take 3-4 days on typically rough seas and cost the same as just flying to the islands. Almost everyone flies to the islands as a result.
A more descriptive accounting can be found HERE. .
Surprising to me that Mayor Garcetti didn't go into full race-baiting mode. He's had a lot of practice at it.
Thanks for the info. But i was just subtly trying to make another point. I doubt i will be in Ecuador anytime in the near future.
7:00 the racist bitcch calls officer doing his job a racist. 7:30 The fat
obnoxious bitch spits at the officer. They deserved to be arrested.
Despite the occasional earthquakes, Ecuador is a pretty nice country overall. I'd consider it as the #3 country in the region after Argentina and Brazil. But it also lacks some of the serious structural problems of those other two countries.
Unless the train was still moving, fuck her.
I have no doubt about that. I'm not so sure about Brazil. The worst are Haiti, Honduras, and Nicaragua. Well, now Venezuela. Who knows what goes on in Cuba.
He did start off nicely. Then the dreamer got all mouthy. Her bad attitude caused the whole incident. If she had complied she would have been fine. Probably thrown off at worse, free to get on the next one.
Excellent news. That spoiled bitch had no right to put her shoes up on a seat where someone else would be sitting. Who knows how much feces,blood,and urine those shoes walked through before being placed on the seat cushion? Little girl,the world does NOT revolve around you. There are other people here who you must share it with. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Where anyone not raised by wild wolves or the equivalent would know she had no business putting her feet,anyhow. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
It is reasonable for the cops to "swarm" like that at the end. When you have troublemakers resisting and causing problems they bring in a bunch of people to keep the situation under control. The fat ugly one caus3d a lot of the problem. Then there 8s the faggot recorder talking at the end. Yeah you can tell by his voice.
Because you are wrong,and don't want to admit it. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
SPITS at him? That is assault anywhere you go. It could even be assault with a deadly weapon if the spitter has a contagious disease. I'm not a cop,but if somebody spits on me,I WILL change their life. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Because you are wrong,and don't want to admit it. I freely admit when I'm wrong. It's a greater error to refuse to admit one was wrong than to be wrong in the first place, which is something most people don't understand. But I am absolutely right when I disengage from attempts to discuss things when no discussion is taking place. I have better things to do with my time. Do you still think I'm wrong?
The girl was wrong and you were wrong to try and defend her.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestThe entire incident may serve to illustrate just how easy it is to become a criminal in LA. Sitting on the seat incorrectly can now get you arrested.
#3. To: Tooconservative (#2)
If there are posted rules
fecal matter
#4. To: Pinguinite (#3)
Apparently, a lot of bystanders who probably use the subway frequently sided with the girl against the cop. That's generally a sign that the girl's sitting habits were acceptable norms on this subway.
You certainly have a thing about fecal matter lately.
. . . Hepatitis A outbreak
Sources: County health departments, California public health departments
#5. To: Tooconservative (#4)
L.A. has been a hive of cop-haters for decades. No surprise that a crowd will gather to jibe at cops for most any reason. Many cities in CA are like this.
Apparently, that would include you.
#6. To: Pinguinite, GrandIsland (#5)
Regardless of politics, police should conform to the societal norms of the people they police. It's not the role of police to force a new standard of conduct upon entire societies.
Sigh.....
#7. To: Tooconservative (#6)
#8. To: Pinguinite, Tooconservative (#3)
If there are posted rules
#9. To: Pinguinite (#7)
I'm no longer interested in discussing this topic with you.
#10. To: Pinguinite (#5)
The last rule is illustrated with a photo of some pussyboy Milennial with his feet on the fabric-covered seat ahead of him. He also blocked others from using two seats in addition to his own.
Disorderly Conduct
#11. To: Gatlin, GrandIsland, Pinguinite (#8)
The officer acted properly in accordance with Los Angeles City Ordinance Sections 6-05-40(A),6-05-100,6-05- 110,6-05-150,6-05-230(C) and Section 6-05-240(A) when he was directed and assigned duty aboard the Red Line Metrorail. Because of recent passengers complaints about the many various problems. the LAPD assigned officers to trains when they launched a recent crackdown on violations including eating, drinking, vaping, gambling, littering and placing feet or shoes on seats. The Ordinance was enacted pursuant to the authority granted to Metro by the California Penal Code Section 640(e) and the California Public Utilities Code Section 99580, et seq.
#12. To: Pinguinite (#7)
I'm no longer interested in discussing this topic with you.
#13. To: Pinguinite, Tooconservative (#5)
It's not the role of police to force a new standard of conduct upon entire societies.
#14. To: Pinguinite, Tooconservative (#7)
I'm no longer interested in discussing this topic with you.
#15. To: Deckard, GrandIsland, Gatlin, Pinguinite (#0)
#16. To: Tooconservative (#12)
#17. To: no gnu taxes (#9)
#18. To: Pinguinite (#17)
You are very smart.
#19. To: Tooconservative (#11)
It has to be pretty bad ..
It must have been going from “bad” to “worse” for the LAPD to specifically assign officers to trains to enforce the ordinance. The Los Angeles Police Department has now launched a use-of-force investigation into a videotaped incident in which a sergeant pulled a young woman from a Metro subway train and then detained her because she refused to take her foot off a seat, according to the video and authorities.
Some people who believe there should be no laws were pissed when the incident happened….they are going to be even more pissed when the investigation shows that the actions by the sergeant were proper and he was correctly complying with the law. 
#20. To: no gnu taxes, Pinguinite, Tooconservative (#9)
I'm no longer interested in discussing this topic with you.
#21. To: Tooconservative (#16)
#22. To: no gnu taxes (#18)
Well, thanks for your astute observation.
#23. To: Pinguinite (#16)
Listen dude. I'm not the one that posted not one, but TWO photos of people defecating in public. On. this. site. YOU did that. Not me. You didn't need to do that to convey the point the article made, but you CHOSE to do that.
#24. To: Pinguinite (#22)
Your intellectual capacity is plainly obvious to all.
#25. To: no gnu taxes (#22)
#26. To: no gnu taxes (#24)
Hey, how often do the ferries go out to the Galapagos Islands?
#27. To: Tooconservative (#23)
If the truth offends you ...
#28. To: Gatlin (#27)
#29. To: Tooconservative (#26)
#30. To: Deckard (#0)
#31. To: no gnu taxes (#29)
#32. To: Deckard (#0)
Nava told the officer as he laid his hands on her and pushed her off the train.
#33. To: Tooconservative (#31)
Despite the occasional earthquakes, Ecuador is a pretty nice country overall.
#34. To: Pinguinite (#3)
If there were "rules" (and not laws) against putting feet up on seats, the cop could have handled it in a much more amicable and friendly way, such as asking nicely and pointing out the health reason for it. But for too many cops, getting belligerent and physical with arrests is the only way to get messages across.
#35. To: Deckard (#0)
Soon after, backup officers arrived. Instead of questioning the validity of the arrest, they promptly placed the two ladies in handcuffs and carted them off to jail.
#36. To: no gnu taxes (#1)
All the stupid bitch had to do was comply with the rules and take her foot off the seat.
#37. To: Deckard (#0)
#38. To: Pinguinite (#7)
I'm no longer interested in discussing this topic with you.
#39. To: A K A Stone (#30)
(Edited)
The fat obnoxious bitch spits at the officer.
#40. To: sneakypete (#38)
#41. To: Pinguinite (#40)
Do you still think I'm wrong?
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