Title: Over a Dozen Cops Swarm, Arrest Tiny Girl For Sitting Incorrectly on the Subway Source:
FromThe Trenches/FTP URL Source:http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.c ... ting-incorrectly-subway/216980 Published:Jan 23, 2018 Author:Jack Burns Post Date:2018-01-24 05:52:15 by Deckard Keywords:None Views:9129 Comments:97
Los Angeles, CA — Dramatic footage has just been released showing 18-year-old Bethany Nava, a West Hollywood resident, getting arrested for having her foot on the subway seat in front of her. According to the Facebook live video, Nava was riding the Red Line Metrorail when the confrontation with police occurred.
An unnamed LAPD officer, a sergeant, had reportedly asked Nava to remove her foot from an adjoining seat but she didn’t immediately comply. “It doesn’t matter. You’re getting off the train right now. I already told you what to do but you disobeyed me,” he told her in a normal voice. He then ordered her to stand up and told her she would be getting off the train at the next stop. “I paid to be on the train, asshole!” Nava told the officer as he laid his hands on her and pushed her off the train.
”I’m 18. He’s taking me off the train for having my foot on the fucking seat,” she told the person recording. The officer whose badge number is 5203, was then surrounded by concerned citizens who accused him of abusing his badge and being on a power trip.
”You’re a fucking scumbag,” said Selena Lechuga, a concerned citizen who came to Nara’s defense and calling into question the officer’s actions in forcing the teenager off the train. “You’re impeding my investigation. Back away,” he told Lechuga.
During the altercation, Nara attempted to flex her rights when the sergeant asked her for her ID. “I was on my way to the DMV. I have to meet my mother to get my ID. Cause I just turned 18. This is not fucking fair that you took me off the train because I had my foot there because I was comfortable like that. There is no law that tells me that I cannot sit that way because I PAID TO BE IN THERE!” Nara screamed. “It’s the rules of the train,” the officer stated.
“What’s the fucking rules of the train,” she asked. Both Nara and Lechuga asked the officer to provide the rules of the train for them to read. “I don’t have any fucking ID I was about to go to the DMV to get it…I should not be going to jail right now!” she exclaimed.
“I don’t have any form of ID. I don’t have any drugs. I don’t have anything that you can arrest me for! My foot was on a chair…what kind of fucking conflicts do you have that you need to take me off the train that I paid for,” she asked. “Nobody was trying to sit in the chair.”
Soon after, backup officers arrived. Instead of questioning the validity of the arrest, they promptly placed the two ladies in handcuffs and carted them off to jail.
According to CBS News LA, both women were cited for disorderly conduct on the train. However, that charge is now being called into question. One could argue the entire incident was started when the police officer escalated the conflict by demanding Nara forfeit her fare and leave the train. It was then and only then when tempers began to flare and choice words were used.
While the officer appeared to just be doing his job, how he handled it will likely be seen as professional by supporters of law enforcement, and abusive by freedom loving citizens. Perusing through YouTube one can find a myriad of videos where citizens claim to have been harassed while riding the Metro.
It’s unclear exactly how Nara was sitting which prompted the officer to remove her from the train, but de-escalation techniques could have been implemented. The entire incident may serve to illustrate just how easy it is to become a criminal in LA. Sitting on the seat incorrectly can now get you arrested.
The entire incident may serve to illustrate just how easy it is to become a criminal in LA. Sitting on the seat incorrectly can now get you arrested.
If there are posted rules for "no feet on the seats", there is nothing wrong with this arrest.
Also, the floors of subways and subway stations along with the streets in general are regular cesspools of filth. Not just dirt but dangerous bacteria, fecal matter, etc. So putting feet up on seats could pose a health risk to others by contaminating those seats.
People on subways and trains can also put their feet up on adjacent seats or splay out so as to prevent anyone else from sitting near them, blocking them from occupying seats that they had paid for, possibly forcing them to stand.
The cop did nothing wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of subway riders want the cops to stand up to these punks.
Apparently, a lot of bystanders who probably use the subway frequently sided with the girl against the cop. That's generally a sign that the girl's sitting habits were acceptable norms on this subway.
If there were "rules" (and not laws) against putting feet up on seats, the cop could have handled it in a much more amicable and friendly way, such as asking nicely and pointing out the health reason for it. But for too many cops, getting belligerent and physical with arrests is the only way to get messages across.
fecal matter
You certainly have a thing about fecal matter lately.
Apparently, a lot of bystanders who probably use the subway frequently sided with the girl against the cop. That's generally a sign that the girl's sitting habits were acceptable norms on this subway.
L.A. has been a hive of cop-haters for decades. No surprise that a crowd will gather to jibe at cops for most any reason. Many cities in CA are like this.
You certainly have a thing about fecal matter lately.
Because a lot of dumbasses apparently have forgotten what we know about the outbreak of preventable diseases in public health policy. Apparently, that would include you.
How about the recent major hepatitus outbreak in CA?
LA Times, 10/17:
. . .
Since November, 481 people there have fallen ill, including 17 who died, according to Dr. Eric McDonald with the county’s health department. An additional 57 cases are under investigation, he said.
Hepatitis A outbreak
481 cases in San Diego County
70 cases in Santa Cruz County
12 cases in L.A. County
6 cases elsewhere in the state
Sources: County health departments, California public health departments
Hepatitis A is commonly transmitted through contaminated food. The only outbreak in the last 20 years bigger than California’s occurred in Pennsylvania in 2003, when more than 900 people were infected after eating contaminated green onions at a restaurant.
California’s outbreak, however, is spreading from person to person, mostly among the homeless community.
The virus is transmitted from feces to mouth, so unsanitary conditions make it more likely to spread. The city of San Diego has installed dozens of handwashing stations and begun cleaning streets with bleach-spiked water in recent weeks.
McDonald said county health workers have vaccinated 57,000 people in the county who are either homeless, drug users or people in close contact with either group.
L.A. has been a hive of cop-haters for decades. No surprise that a crowd will gather to jibe at cops for most any reason. Many cities in CA are like this.
Regardless of politics, police should conform to the societal norms of the people they police. It's not the role of police to force a new standard of conduct upon entire societies.
Regardless of politics, police should conform to the societal norms of the people they police. It's not the role of police to force a new standard of conduct upon entire societies.
What if their societal norm is peddling narcotics to children, molesting children and other helpless persons, letting pimps engage in white slavery, or just defying the law in general on principle?
Do you understand the basic concept of rule of law?
Listen dude. I'm not the one that posted not one, but TWO photos of people defecating in public. On. this. site. YOU did that. Not me. You didn't need to do that to convey the point the article made, but you CHOSE to do that.
And now there's more fecal discussion on you responses here, and solely because of that one single sentence where I point that out, you are throwing a hissy fit inviting me to bozo you.
Get a grip. Maybe on youself. Feel free to interpret that in any manner you wish, vulgar or not.
Listen dude. I'm not the one that posted not one, but TWO photos of people defecating in public. On. this. site. YOU did that. Not me. You didn't need to do that to convey the point the article made, but you CHOSE to do that.
I was driving home the point that these African shitholes are, literally, shitholes.
A more descriptive accounting can be found HERE. .
"I had my foot there because I was comfortable like that"
And she's entitled to her "comfort" - regardless of the people standing without a seat; and regardless of the filth she's spreading by ignoring the rules.
