Title: Over a Dozen Cops Swarm, Arrest Tiny Girl For Sitting Incorrectly on the Subway Source:
FromThe Trenches/FTP URL Source:http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.c ... ting-incorrectly-subway/216980 Published:Jan 23, 2018 Author:Jack Burns Post Date:2018-01-24 05:52:15 by Deckard Keywords:None Views:9104 Comments:97
Los Angeles, CA — Dramatic footage has just been released showing 18-year-old Bethany Nava, a West Hollywood resident, getting arrested for having her foot on the subway seat in front of her. According to the Facebook live video, Nava was riding the Red Line Metrorail when the confrontation with police occurred.
An unnamed LAPD officer, a sergeant, had reportedly asked Nava to remove her foot from an adjoining seat but she didn’t immediately comply. “It doesn’t matter. You’re getting off the train right now. I already told you what to do but you disobeyed me,” he told her in a normal voice. He then ordered her to stand up and told her she would be getting off the train at the next stop. “I paid to be on the train, asshole!” Nava told the officer as he laid his hands on her and pushed her off the train.
”I’m 18. He’s taking me off the train for having my foot on the fucking seat,” she told the person recording. The officer whose badge number is 5203, was then surrounded by concerned citizens who accused him of abusing his badge and being on a power trip.
”You’re a fucking scumbag,” said Selena Lechuga, a concerned citizen who came to Nara’s defense and calling into question the officer’s actions in forcing the teenager off the train. “You’re impeding my investigation. Back away,” he told Lechuga.
During the altercation, Nara attempted to flex her rights when the sergeant asked her for her ID. “I was on my way to the DMV. I have to meet my mother to get my ID. Cause I just turned 18. This is not fucking fair that you took me off the train because I had my foot there because I was comfortable like that. There is no law that tells me that I cannot sit that way because I PAID TO BE IN THERE!” Nara screamed. “It’s the rules of the train,” the officer stated.
“What’s the fucking rules of the train,” she asked. Both Nara and Lechuga asked the officer to provide the rules of the train for them to read. “I don’t have any fucking ID I was about to go to the DMV to get it…I should not be going to jail right now!” she exclaimed.
“I don’t have any form of ID. I don’t have any drugs. I don’t have anything that you can arrest me for! My foot was on a chair…what kind of fucking conflicts do you have that you need to take me off the train that I paid for,” she asked. “Nobody was trying to sit in the chair.”
Soon after, backup officers arrived. Instead of questioning the validity of the arrest, they promptly placed the two ladies in handcuffs and carted them off to jail.
According to CBS News LA, both women were cited for disorderly conduct on the train. However, that charge is now being called into question. One could argue the entire incident was started when the police officer escalated the conflict by demanding Nara forfeit her fare and leave the train. It was then and only then when tempers began to flare and choice words were used.
While the officer appeared to just be doing his job, how he handled it will likely be seen as professional by supporters of law enforcement, and abusive by freedom loving citizens. Perusing through YouTube one can find a myriad of videos where citizens claim to have been harassed while riding the Metro.
It’s unclear exactly how Nara was sitting which prompted the officer to remove her from the train, but de-escalation techniques could have been implemented. The entire incident may serve to illustrate just how easy it is to become a criminal in LA. Sitting on the seat incorrectly can now get you arrested.
The entire incident may serve to illustrate just how easy it is to become a criminal in LA. Sitting on the seat incorrectly can now get you arrested.
If there are posted rules for "no feet on the seats", there is nothing wrong with this arrest.
Also, the floors of subways and subway stations along with the streets in general are regular cesspools of filth. Not just dirt but dangerous bacteria, fecal matter, etc. So putting feet up on seats could pose a health risk to others by contaminating those seats.
People on subways and trains can also put their feet up on adjacent seats or splay out so as to prevent anyone else from sitting near them, blocking them from occupying seats that they had paid for, possibly forcing them to stand.
The cop did nothing wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of subway riders want the cops to stand up to these punks.
Apparently, a lot of bystanders who probably use the subway frequently sided with the girl against the cop. That's generally a sign that the girl's sitting habits were acceptable norms on this subway.
If there were "rules" (and not laws) against putting feet up on seats, the cop could have handled it in a much more amicable and friendly way, such as asking nicely and pointing out the health reason for it. But for too many cops, getting belligerent and physical with arrests is the only way to get messages across.
fecal matter
You certainly have a thing about fecal matter lately.
Apparently, a lot of bystanders who probably use the subway frequently sided with the girl against the cop. That's generally a sign that the girl's sitting habits were acceptable norms on this subway...
OR...maybe this was an opportunist's way of sticking it to The Man.
I don't think we're getting a neutral or fair way of reporting this incident. Not that it matters. Frankly, this is an example of petty BS reporting designed to create frothy emotions, divisions, and hate. "News" stories like this are a penny a dozen.
Thanks to cellphone video, yes. It's certainly a new dynamic in society where cops are nowadays perhaps 90% likely to be video recorded during any interaction with anyone. At least in the densely populated cities. And that's not even considering body cams.
It's all the more reason for cops to return to their "human" status of times long past, and more emphasis being placed on the humanity of the people they interact with, and less emphasis placed on "the law is the law" brute force type mentality.
I don't think there is disagreement on either side about the benefits of good relations between cops and the public, and the need for it. Good PR is valuable for both, and the video recording of cops now plays into that. And what a god-awful video of the simon-says shooting was a good example of how to ruin police PR.
Police videos are now a permanent part of the police PR dynamic.
It's all the more reason for cops to return to their "human" status of times long past, and more emphasis being placed on the humanity of the people they interact with, and less emphasis placed on "the law is the law" brute force type mentality.
I don't disagree with you that LEO ought to return to their traditional or "human" status of days of yore. The problem is...that horse is already out of the barn given the instantaneous demands for "MY RIGHTS ARE VIOLATED!!" by a litigious, whining, "I'm-a-Victim" indoctrinated society.
Police videos are now a permanent part of the police PR dynamic.
The good news: It provides proof of innocence in many cases.
The bad news: It's now exploited to a deleterious and abusive degree to slander LE.
It's all the more reason for cops to return to their "human" status of times long past ...
There are many who will say that you have this all backwards....I am one of those.
While your parents and grandparents were growing up, they never would have even thought to disrespect the authority of law enforcement and show a total disregard for laws. But things have somehow changed now and we find ourselves living in a world where sayings such as “fuck the police” and “they’re all pigs” are an everyday common occurrence in the realm of our modern day society. Which brings me to a questions, have cops changed or have people changed?
I find the answer to this question to be a simple one....in that for reason, or reasons, unknown the current generation has lost all respect for any authority in general. This is easy to recognize because we see the “modern day” generation talking back to their parents. And they think rules don’t apply to them as they are entitled to everything. They believe they have the right to obey and disobey laws of their choosing. With that mindset, it is only natural for those misguided individuals to hate anyone who is enforcing laws and someone who “gets them in trouble” for their wrongful actions. But this needs to change and it needs to change....now.
