Title: Over a Dozen Cops Swarm, Arrest Tiny Girl For Sitting Incorrectly on the Subway Source:
FromThe Trenches/FTP URL Source:http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.c ... ting-incorrectly-subway/216980 Published:Jan 23, 2018 Author:Jack Burns Post Date:2018-01-24 05:52:15 by Deckard Keywords:None Views:9068 Comments:97
Los Angeles, CA — Dramatic footage has just been released showing 18-year-old Bethany Nava, a West Hollywood resident, getting arrested for having her foot on the subway seat in front of her. According to the Facebook live video, Nava was riding the Red Line Metrorail when the confrontation with police occurred.
An unnamed LAPD officer, a sergeant, had reportedly asked Nava to remove her foot from an adjoining seat but she didn’t immediately comply. “It doesn’t matter. You’re getting off the train right now. I already told you what to do but you disobeyed me,” he told her in a normal voice. He then ordered her to stand up and told her she would be getting off the train at the next stop. “I paid to be on the train, asshole!” Nava told the officer as he laid his hands on her and pushed her off the train.
”I’m 18. He’s taking me off the train for having my foot on the fucking seat,” she told the person recording. The officer whose badge number is 5203, was then surrounded by concerned citizens who accused him of abusing his badge and being on a power trip.
”You’re a fucking scumbag,” said Selena Lechuga, a concerned citizen who came to Nara’s defense and calling into question the officer’s actions in forcing the teenager off the train. “You’re impeding my investigation. Back away,” he told Lechuga.
During the altercation, Nara attempted to flex her rights when the sergeant asked her for her ID. “I was on my way to the DMV. I have to meet my mother to get my ID. Cause I just turned 18. This is not fucking fair that you took me off the train because I had my foot there because I was comfortable like that. There is no law that tells me that I cannot sit that way because I PAID TO BE IN THERE!” Nara screamed. “It’s the rules of the train,” the officer stated.
“What’s the fucking rules of the train,” she asked. Both Nara and Lechuga asked the officer to provide the rules of the train for them to read. “I don’t have any fucking ID I was about to go to the DMV to get it…I should not be going to jail right now!” she exclaimed.
“I don’t have any form of ID. I don’t have any drugs. I don’t have anything that you can arrest me for! My foot was on a chair…what kind of fucking conflicts do you have that you need to take me off the train that I paid for,” she asked. “Nobody was trying to sit in the chair.”
Soon after, backup officers arrived. Instead of questioning the validity of the arrest, they promptly placed the two ladies in handcuffs and carted them off to jail.
According to CBS News LA, both women were cited for disorderly conduct on the train. However, that charge is now being called into question. One could argue the entire incident was started when the police officer escalated the conflict by demanding Nara forfeit her fare and leave the train. It was then and only then when tempers began to flare and choice words were used.
While the officer appeared to just be doing his job, how he handled it will likely be seen as professional by supporters of law enforcement, and abusive by freedom loving citizens. Perusing through YouTube one can find a myriad of videos where citizens claim to have been harassed while riding the Metro.
It’s unclear exactly how Nara was sitting which prompted the officer to remove her from the train, but de-escalation techniques could have been implemented. The entire incident may serve to illustrate just how easy it is to become a criminal in LA. Sitting on the seat incorrectly can now get you arrested.
It is reasonable for the cops to "swarm" like that at the end. When you have troublemakers resisting and causing problems they bring in a bunch of people to keep the situation under control.
The fat ugly one caus3d a lot of the problem. Then there 8s the faggot recorder talking at the end. Yeah you can tell by his voice.
It is reasonable for the cops to "swarm" like that at the end. When you have troublemakers resisting and causing problems they bring in a bunch of people to keep the situation under control.
I'll say this much: I only watched the beginning few minutes, until just after the cop called for backup and it seemed to just be arguing at that point.
If anyone spit on the cop, that's wrong. It's wrong any time anyone does it to anyone else, cop or no cop.
And if there is indeed a law against having feet up on a seat, fine.
But here's my point: Good policing does not consist of going around busting everyone for every last infraction that's on the books. Anyone who disagrees should have no problem with getting a traffic citation for failing to signal for a lane change. There are a couple people on this site who's model law enforcement officer is none other than Inspector Javert, the antagonist in Les Miserables, who had no problem with a man being placed in jail for 5 years for stealing bread, because "the law is the law". Never any room for consideration of basic human needs, or more broadly, basic humanity.
Now there are 2 ways a cop could approach someone like this girl who had her feet up on a seat. One is the brute force "Inspector Javert" way we see in the video (though we don't see how it began so maybe the girl was first to get bitchy).
The second way is, given she wasn't a mugger or threatening to shoot anyone who looked at her funny, to approach her in a much more positive, light hearted manner informing her of the reason it's not good for others to sit like that, engaging her in a much more friendly manner.
The first way certainly sends a message, but it creates animosity and is bad PR, not just between the arrested girl and the police, but everyone who witnessed any part of it. The second way actually has a better chance of educating in a positive manner and actually changing behavior when cops are not around.
And in my view, that is just so much better. No arrests. No court cases. No lawyers involved... no one getting spit on.... what's not to like?
But here's my point: Good policing does not consist of going around busting everyone for every last infraction that's on the books. Anyone who disagrees should have no problem with getting a traffic citation for failing to signal for a lane change. There are a couple people on this site who's model law enforcement officer is none other than Inspector Javert, the antagonist in Les Miserables, who had no problem with a man being placed in jail for 5 years for stealing bread, because "the law is the law". Never any room for consideration of basic human needs, or more broadly, basic humanity.
There can be no question about that,but one stereotype doesn't justify another.
Watch the rest of it. She starts throwing "F Bombs" and a crowd starts gathering. One guy with a serious lisp is always circling around behind the lone cop trying to talk him into letting her go,and she is struggling and trying to get away. While this is going on,another larger (ok,fat) Hispanic woman approaches the cop and SHE starts throwing F bombs and screaming "racism".
Meanwhile the cop hasn't harmed anyone,and is surrounded down in a subway. So he calls for backup,which he would have had to have done anyhow because he can only search a female suspect in an emergency,and because he now has TWO,and maybe three or more people interfering with a legal arrest,which is a crime in itself.
What would YOU do,risk facing an angry and racist brown crowd in LA by yourself,or would you call for backup before it got out of hand,too? Also,you might want to read the comments section and all the replies that say the cop should have been killed.
Watch the rest of it. She starts throwing "F Bombs"
At that point, it's too late so no need to watch more. By that time, the cop already approached the offending girl in the manner he chose and hostilities are already on the burner. Of course things will get worse after that.
What I'm talking about is approaching differently, diplomatically, and positively so things don't reach this irreversible level of hostility. Again, this is not a case where the girl was threatening to shoot anyone or otherwise disturbing anyone else on the train.
The cops in the 2 vids I posted do it right. It's the mindset of the cops when they FIRST approach an infractor that makes the difference.
