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Title: Businesses forced to pay the police to let them spy on customers
Source: FromThe Trenches/Gateway Pundit
URL Source: http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.c ... olice-let-spy-customers/216541
Published: Jan 18, 2018
Author: MassPrivateI
Post Date: 2018-01-18 11:27:46 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 561
Comments: 12

MassPrivateI

Last year police in Detroit, Michigan asked businesses to install real-time surveillance cameras that are connected to police departments.

Which isn’t all that bad, right?

Wrong.

According to an article in Crain’s Detroit, Mayor Mike Duggan wants to force businesses to install police surveillance cameras.

“Mayor Mike Duggan’s administration is moving forward with a plan to eventually mandate every retail business in Detroit with late-night hours have surveillance cameras tied into Project Green Light, the Detroit Police Department’s real-time crime monitoring system.”

“Duggan said the city will start with requiring the camera systems for bars,restaurants, gas stations and other businesses open between midnight and 4 a.m. during the “highest risk” time for crimes to occur. Then the city will move to businesses open after 10 p.m., he said.”

The police department calls their new spy on everyone program “Project Green Light Detroit” (PGLD).

“As part of  PGLD, the Detroit Police Department (DPD) and the City have committed to devote staff to effectively receive, monitor, and analyze video feeds from PGLD Partners. DPD and the City have also made a longer-term commitment to develop a permanent state-of-the-art Real-Time Crime Center to be housed at Detroit Public Safety Headquarters. Additional work is also being done with PGLD Partners to strengthen the localties between participating stations, DPD Precinct Captains, DPD Neighborhood Police Officers, and surrounding community leaders and organizations.”

Law enforcement asking businesses to install real-time surveillance cameras is bad enough.

But as you will see, things are about to get a whole lot worse.

Businesses forced to pay the police monthly

According to the Crain’s Detroit article, businesses will be forced to pay the police monthly for the privilege of letting them spy on customers.

“Businesses in the Green Light project get extra patrols from Detroit Police Department officers who stop in to sign a log book, documenting the visit. Startup costs for getting the surveillance cameras installed ranges between $1,000 and $6,000, with monthly costs for cloud storage of the video starting at around $140”.

PGLD hopes to expand to residential buildings
 

What is happening in places like Detroit and elsewhere should raise red-flags in the mass media but as you can see from the video they are embracing it.

Police are also using Blue Line Technology facial recognition cameras, Virtual Block Watch cameras and four camera surveillance PODS to spy on everyone.

How long before law enforcement uses ELUCD facial recognition cameras to spy on fast food customers?

Forcing businesses to act as state actors will have far-reaching implications for everyone.

It will turn the Bill of Rights into a fairy-tale.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0) (Edited)

Last year police in Detroit, Michigan asked businesses to install real-time surveillance cameras that are connected to police departments.

Which isn’t all that bad, right?

Wrong.

Oh, the author did mention in the article that Detroit has the highest murder and violent crime rate of any major city in the country, according to the FBI. The FBI has released numbers show violent crime in Detroit has spiked more than 15 percent in 2016. The numbers show 13,700 violent crimes which include murder, rape, assault, and robbery. The author didn’t mention that? Hmmm ...

What the author did say is that he is deciding what is not good for business owners in Detroit when he should be allowing the business owners to be the ones that decide if this is “wrong.” Some lone individual wishing the world to know him as “MassPrivateI” should not be deciding what is good and bad in Detroit when I will give odds that he doesn’t even live there

The author did not say that most of these businesses want to protect their property and around 75 percent of businesses impacted by the requirements are already in compliance. The author didn’t mention this? Hmmm ...

The author did mention that the idea for the cameras in all the specified stores came about after the murders of two late night party store owners were solved with the help of surveillance video. The author didn’t mention this? Hmmm ...

The author left our some IMPORTANT FACTS when he said:

“Businesses in the Green Light project get extra patrols from Detroit Police Department officers who stop in to sign a log book, documenting the visit. Startup costs for getting the surveillance cameras installed ranges between $1,000 and $6,000, with monthly costs for cloud storage of the video starting at around $140”.
The correct information the author should have presents is:
Until now, businesses had to pay $4,000 to $6,000 to install the cameras, an up-front cost that kept many businesses from participating in the program, Mayor Mike Duggan said. Now, Comcast has a new plan in which the cable and Internet provider will install the cameras and necessary equipment for $1,000, with businesses paying about $140 a month for the service, including 30 days of storage of video from every camera at a business.
See the real difference in presenting “partial information” to influence opinions and sway people....and presenting “completely factual information” makes. It makes $3,000 to $5,000 difference here.

The author did mention that the expansion of the program is crucial because it has led to a 50% reduction in violent crime at stores, gas stations and other businesses that have installed them. The author didn’t mention that? Hmmm ...

I could go on and on, but I have done enough damage to this article to destroy its creditability so I will stop here.

Move along folks, there’s nothing of importance in the article here ...

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-18   15:13:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin (#1)

I looked at their website. I don't see anything where businesses are forced to participate. The article tries hard to create that impression though.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-18   16:12:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tooconservative (#3)

I hate to do this...but I will because I don’t want to take time to go look it up. I vaguely remember that the “proposal” is to make it mandatory for late night businesses only.

But as I stated earlier, 75 percent of those business are already using it....the use of good common sense and good business sense will say it’s a high personal responsibility and a good asset.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-18   16:22:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#7. To: Gatlin (#5)

I hate to do this...but I will because I don’t want to take time to go look it up. I vaguely remember that the “proposal” is to make it mandatory for late night businesses only.

They started last January with a pilot program of 8 after-midnight businesses. Sounds like convenience stores to me. They had a lot of robberies so the police wanted to take the biggest bite outta crime as they could for the money spent on the pilot program. They've expanded it since to more businesses, not sure how many they're up to now.

Check the website link I posted. I don't think any business has been forced to do anything so far.

You can think of it another way. Say a business is still limping along with poorly lit areas and they need to upgrade from an old existing 480p camera system (with tapes on premises). Given how they seem to be financing these systems, it might be cheaper for them to do the streaming 1080p cameras, put up the little signs and the green light over their doors than if they tried to do an upgrade to their own systems. For police it does provide info about an ongoing robbery because they can see how many robbers, how many used a gun, what direction they left in and what vehicle they might be driving. Just getting make/model/color on the getaway car is very valuable info if a robbery occurs and police want to catch them in the first 10 minutes after the robbery. Getting info on how many robbers and what they are known to be armed with is valuable for officer safety.

I can see how they could sell this service fairly easily to a lot of businesses.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-18 17:05:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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