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Title: Everyone You Love Did Drugs
Source: Reason
URL Source: https://reason.com/reasontv/2018/01/12/everyone-you-love-did-drugs
Published: Jan 12, 2018
Author: Andrew Heaton & Sarah Rose Siskind
Post Date: 2018-01-13 09:40:59 by Deckard
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Views: 3098
Comments: 29

It turns out that a lot of accomplished, well-respected historical figures did drugs. From Winston Churchill taking amphetamines to Thomas Edison lacing his wine with cocaine, not everyone who uses narcotics is a hopeless basket case living in a dumpster. While some drug users spiral into addiction and crime, others go on to become president. It's time to debunk the age old stereotypes of the back alley dangerous dealer or the lazy stoner when, according to the National Survey on Drug Use, roughly half of all Americans have tried an illegal drug.

In the latest "Mostly Weekly" host Andrew Heaton breaks down the cartoonish Drug Warrior portrayal of drugs by showing some of the beloved historical figures who used them, including:

Mostly Weekly is hosted by Andrew Heaton, with headwriter Sarah Rose Siskind.

Script by Sarah Rose Siskind with writing assistance from Andrew Heaton and Brian Sack.

Edited by Austin Bragg and Siskind.

Produced by Meredith and Austin Bragg.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

It turns out that a lot of accomplished, well-respected historical figures did drugs.

That's their business, not mine.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-01-13   9:57:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#0)

More pro drug addict AGENDA garbage. Hitler did the same thing to brainwash his sheep... constant agenda driven PROPAGANDA output.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-13   10:04:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#0)

Everyone You Love Did Drugs.

And some you can never love DID drugs and DID terrible things....list follows:

Rudy Eugene was implicated in the recent wave of cannibal attacks throughout the United States in summer 2012.

Pamela McCarthy went on a naked rampage, and police were called after she reportedly punched and choked her three-year-old son. She also attempted to strangle the family dog.

Dale Nelson was a Canadian logger who killed eight people. Nelson had drunk heavily on Sept. 4, 1970, and he later drove to a relative’s house and murdered a mother and one of her children using a fire extinguisher and a knife. He apparently tried to eat the child’s organs. He then went to another house and shot the people inside apart from a child, who he raped shortly after and then killed.

Ricky Kasso murdered a teenager. He had accused the victim of stealing and not paying for quantities of PCP. The teen was stabbed multiple times during the attack and had his eyes gouged out. Kasso committed suicide after he was arrested for the drug-fueled crime.

Jim Jones most remembered for sparking off the mass suicide of his followers in Jonestown, Guyana, on Nov. 18, 1978. It was notorious as the biggest human-caused loss of life until Sept. 11, 2001, and 918 people died as a result. Jones, a known drug user and possible addict to LSD and marijuana.

Velma BarfieldHer’s husband died after the house caught fire, and her husband died of smoke inhalation. A few months later, a second fire gutted the interior, and the insurance paid out. Barfield later married a wealthy widower. He died after they started experiencing issues with their marriage thanks to Barfield’s drug habit. After a number of other murders, Barfield was eventually caught when a coroner ordered a full autopsy after a man she had been dating had suddenly died. She was tried and then later executed by lethal injection.

Archibald McCafferty labeled Australia’s worst criminal, he was responsible a number of horrific murders while high on a variety of drugs, often called angel dust. His murder spree started after his son died aged just a few months old. McCafferty, after being released from a psychiatric institution, went on a murderous rampage, apparently inspired by visions of his son, who apparently told him to kill seven people. He only succeeded in killing three with help from a gang before he was caught. He was given multiple life sentences. In prison, he was accused of killing fellow prisoners and caught taking more drugs. Eventually, he got clean, and he now lives in Scotland.

Big Lurch was a rapper in the Bay Area who had seen some success in the rap scene, having worked with a number of high-profile rappers. All this would change one night when he stabbed his drug partner’s girlfriend through the shoulder and ripped open her chest with his teeth. He was seen drenched in blood and walking like a zombie, and a medical report showed that he had flesh in his stomach—human flesh. He is currently serving a life sentence.

The moral to this post is....DON’T DO DRUGS.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-13   10:25:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: GrandIsland (#2)

More pro drug addict AGENDA garbage. Hitler did the same thing to brainwash his sheep... constant agenda driven PROPAGANDA output.

Hitler was another leader with a major drug habit. Look up his doctor, Morell.

Hitler took hormones (including testosterone), heroin, morphine, oxycodone, and especially methamphetemine (injected multiple times per day) and bromides so he could get to sleep after a day of injected meth.

JFK was another major drug addict.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-13   11:01:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Gatlin (#3)

And some you can never love DID drugs and DID terrible things....

...not everyone who uses narcotics is a hopeless basket case living in a dumpster. While some drug users spiral into addiction and crime, others go on to become president.

It's time to debunk the age old stereotypes of the back alley dangerous dealer or the lazy stoner when, according to the National Survey on Drug Use, roughly half of all Americans have tried an illegal drug.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-13   11:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deckard (#5) (Edited)

...not everyone who uses narcotics is a hopeless basket case living in a dumpster.

You are correct, the typical druggies and overdose victims are becoming younger and more urban....living in the basements of their parents. The scale of both use and abuse of the drugs in America is hard to overstate. It can best be summed up by saying that every 25 minutes a newborn baby is born addicted to drugs.

...users spiral into addiction and crime, others go on to become president.

While others go on to become president, drug overdose deaths continue to increase in the United States. Since 1999, the number of overdose deaths quadrupled. From 2000 to 2015 more than half a million people died from drug overdoses. 91 Americans die every day from a drug overdose. It is most unfortunate that none of those druggies will ever have the opportunity so say I used drugs and became President....now, will they?

...roughly half of all Americans have tried an illegal drug.

Yes and all the while the number of people living in high-poverty areas nearly doubled between 2000 and 2013, to 13.8 million from 7.2 million

Drug-related crime imposes an enormous burden on our society. One report in 2011 shows that $153 billion was the estimate for the annual crime costs from illicit drug use. Meanwhile the 2011 NDIC report says the cost is $193 billion. Take you pick and regardless which one you choose, it is an atrociously high number to pay for the crime costs for people to use illegal drugs.

Furthermore, you preach many times daily on what a shitty place America has become....right? Of course, you do. And you see no correlation between the use of drugs? You are just plain downright stupid if you don’t ...

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-13   12:53:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Gatlin (#6)

Drug-related crime imposes an enormous burden on our society.

Aside from the fact that the U.S. Government is complicit in the international drug trade, legalizing drugs would have the effect of significantly DECREASING crime.

Not to mention the enormous financial benefits to be had.

Marijuana legalization could inject over $130 billion into US tax coffers by 2025 — if the Trump administration stays hands-off

Of course, a lot of that money would be used to actually help addicts - but you really don't want that, do you?

You and your ilk would much rather maintain the status quo and continue to ignore real solutions to America's drug problem.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-13   13:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GrandIsland, Deckard (#2)

More pro drug addict AGENDA garbage. Hitler did the same thing to brainwash his sheep... constant agenda driven PROPAGANDA output.

GI, you are absolutely RIGHT on this issue. POINT-BY-POINT. This is...propaganda.

Hitler, Goering and others within his circle were drug-addled and/or homos/pedophiles while Hitler's original Brownshirt Enforcers were HOMOS.

In his drug-induced haze Hitler took away Germans' guns. This whole weed obsession is about the Elites moving Americans' focus ELSEWHERE, a red herring. In reading article after article on legalizing pot (as the coup against Trump continues, and the nation is inches away from CW2), you'd think the Republic would fall apart without legalizing it.

For the record I support medicinal marijuana. Recreationally, it's a menace because it will be abused AND because it is a de-motivator.

I have been convinced that the intent of this pro-Weed crusade/obsession is nothing but an attempt by the Elites to anesthetize and numb the coming generation while weakening their resolve and opposition to what's coming down the pike: FASCIST NWO POLICIES.

Of ALL hills to die on; of ALL crusades to fight; of ALL political policies to get pissed off about -- THIS one makes a difference??

Freaking NWO Elite fascists, Commies and Anarchists are doing all they can to create CW2, divide the nation and world as millions of Muzzies, Mexicans, and Third World shit-hole saboteurs given carte blanche to invade and destroy a Republic. Guys who served are STILL paying off that tab in personal blood, sacrifice...and life. But somehow the discussion of legalizing pot supposedly "liberates" America?

Insane.

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-13   13:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#3)

Jim Jones most remembered for sparking off the mass suicide of his followers in Jonestown, Guyana, on Nov. 18, 1978. It was notorious as the biggest human-caused loss of life until Sept. 11, 2001, and 918 people died as a result. Jones, a known drug user and possible addict to LSD and marijuana.

You're stretching here. By a MILLION MILES.

The moral to this post is....DON’T DO DRUGS.

OR...IS it??

I'll bet you're taking some kind of med.

Moreover, there IS a difference -- a YUGE difference -- between pain-killer meds for chronic pain, and recreational abuse.

The REAL "Moral":

Conflating LSD or Heroin with marijuana, and broad-brushing "doing drugs" is intellectually dishonest and speaks to a whole different and suspicious agenda.

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-13   13:40:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Liberator (#8) (Edited)

I have been convinced that the intent of this pro-Weed crusade/obsession is nothing but an attempt by the Elites to anesthetize and numb the coming generation while weakening their resolve and opposition to what's coming down the pike: FASCIST NWO POLICIES.

If the plan by the elites is to "anesthetize and numb the coming generation", wouldn't it be more logical for them to go all in on drug legalization? I mean - they are the ones who appear to be fighting the trend of more liberal drug laws.

Of course the real damage is being caused by Big Pharma psychotropic drugs that are being doled out to kids for any and every mental imperfection - that's where the real brainwashing starts.

Could it be that in many cases, substances like cannabis have the opposite effect and actually increase the overall awareness of citizens to the ongoing the machinations of the NWO? Maybe the tendency of many cannabis smokers to "question authority" is what they don't want to see happen on a more massive scale. I don't know - possibly. Just a thought.

I know that is true in my case - when I see that fed.gov consistently lies about cannabis, it naturally makes me question the official government narrative on all other issues. I'm sure millions of others have come to the same conclusion that TPTB are in a continuous propaganda and disinformation war with its own citizens on a daily basis.

I have made my own reasons for an end to the drug war abundantly clear on this site as well as on LP.

As I posted above, cannabis legalization alone would be a huge boost for the economy. Some of that money could be channeled into programs to actually help those who DO have addictions and desperately want to clean up their act.

People are going to use drugs whether they are legal or not - and I don't foresee any of the ones who currently are so vehemently opposed to them now going out and score some heroin if it becomes legal.

The Elites have already weakened the resolve and opposition of the current generation. I believe that probably 90% of those under the age of 35 have been indoctrinated beyond hope - the public school system and the constant barrage of propaganda disseminated by the Mockingbird media have already done irreparable damage. Short of a mass awakening - these kids will be obedient slaves to the coming NWO government. Those younger than 25 who have been computer-dependent all of their lives will be first in line to take the mark of the beast.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-13   14:04:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard (#7)

... real solutions to America's drug problem.

So, first you admit that America does have a drug problem.

Then you say that the best way you see to solve that enormous drug problem is to make all drugs legal so more people can take more drug.

Huh?

Somehow, the perverted way you see things with your obsessive drug promoting rational just doesn’t make any sense....no sense at all.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-13   14:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Gatlin (#11)

then you say that the best way you see to solve that enormous drug problem is to make all drugs legal so more people can take more drug

You really think that MORE people will use heroin if it was legal?

Are you afraid that if heroin becomes legal, you will be the first in line to go out and score some?

Cannabis legalization alone would be a huge boost for the economy. Some of that money could be channeled into programs to actually help those who DO have addictions and desperately want to clean up their act.

You do want addicts to get help, don't you? Oh wait - you need to have people continue to be addicted to drugs in order to feel better about yourself.

People are going to use drugs whether they are legal or not - and I don't foresee any of the ones who currently are so vehemently opposed to them now going out and score some heroin if it becomes legal.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-13   14:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Gatlin (#11)

So, first you admit that America does have a drug problem.

I've never denied it.

I have however proposed solutions that would actually accomplish what your immoral war on drugs has failed to do.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-13   14:21:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Deckard (#7)

Marijuana legalization could inject over $130 billion into US tax coffers by 2025.

Just what this country needs, more taxes....eh?

Trump gives the country a tax cut and you support a method of taking $130 billion dollars out of people’s pockets.

Wow ...

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-13   14:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard (#13)

I have however proposed solutions that would actually accomplish ...
I’ll go you one better...I propose that people stop using drugs and that definitely will solve America’s drug problem

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-13   14:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Gatlin (#14)

Marijuana legalization could inject over $130 billion into US tax coffers by 2025.

Just what this country needs, more taxes....eh?

What do you care? I don't foresee you making any purchases of cannabis.

The thing is - a few tokes of some good reefer would do wonders for your overall personality.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-13   14:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Gatlin (#15)

I propose that people stop using drugs

By arresting and imprisoning them?

How's that working out for you?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-13   14:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Deckard (#12)

You really think that MORE people will use heroin if it was legal?
I find no reason to think that LESS people would use heroin if it were legal.

Do you?

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-13   14:29:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Deckard (#17)

I propose that people stop using drugs

By arresting and imprisoning them?

How's that working out for you?

Working out fine for me.

Brings the crime rate caused by drugs down.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-13   14:32:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Deckard (#16)

The thing is - a few tokes of some good reefer would do wonders for your overall personality.

That has been factually proven....how?

And why would anyone need to rely on smoking pot to improve their personality when research has shown that marijuana smokers are diagnosed with depression more often than nonsmokers are?

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-13   14:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Gatlin, yukon (#20)

That has been factually proven....how?

It would keep you off of LF while you send yukon your sext messages.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-01-13   14:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Deckard (#10)

If the plan by the elites is to "anesthetize and numb the coming generation", wouldn't it be more logical for them to go all in on drug legalization? I mean - they are the ones who appear to be fighting the trend of more liberal drug laws.

Yes, your presumption that a more deliberate agenda is a logical conclusion...that this is happening organically...

I don't believe that's the case here.

The NWO elites can't make their agenda so obvious. Isn't it strange that of ALL Presidencies the Elites decide to accelerate their move to legalize weed and make it some kind of crusade while Trump was elected?? Don't you find that odd?

Of course the real damage is being caused by Big Pharma psychotropic drugs that are being doled out to kids for any and every mental imperfection - that's where the real brainwashing starts.

Agree 110%. All these vaccines are tainted. You've noticed how flu-shots are touted a FREE? (But nothing else.)

Could it be that in many cases, substances like cannabis have the opposite effect and actually increase the overall awareness of citizens to the ongoing the machinations of the NWO? Maybe the tendency of many cannabis smokers to "question authority" is what they don't want to see happen on a more massive scale. I don't know - possibly. Just a thought.

Yes. In some cases I agree that it may help clarify overall awareness and enlightenment of their own NWO "slavery" and mental bondage. You and I and many here would have had exactly that type of convo. Unfortunately, the vast number of tokers would be anesthetized and numbed. And probably watch MSNBC while lighting up.

I have made my own reasons for an end to the drug war abundantly clear on this site as well as on LP.

As I posted above, cannabis legalization alone would be a huge boost for the economy. Some of that money could be channeled into programs to actually help those who DO have addictions and desperately want to clean up their act.

People are going to use drugs whether they are legal or not - and I don't foresee any of the ones who currently are so vehemently opposed to them now going out and score some heroin if it becomes legal.

Look -- I know where you're coming from. And I agree with your reasoning in large part. But the equation has shifted. And so has the risk. We have a vast number of clinical nutcases, mentally unstable people and lunatics in this country. 95% of them on the Left. And many of the intelligent ones of college age for whom the die maybe cast forever. Won't toking only make them MORE psychotic?

The Elites have already weakened the resolve and opposition of the current generation.

I believe that probably 90% of those under the age of 35 have been indoctrinated beyond hope - the public school system and the constant barrage of propaganda disseminated by the Mockingbird media have already done irreparable damage. Short of a mass awakening - these kids will be obedient slaves to the coming NWO government. Those younger than 25 who have been computer-dependent all of their lives will be first in line to take the mark of the beast.

I agree. The situation is potentially quite dire. However I believe that 90% would/could be reduced to 65-70% -- enough to provide much needed opposition....IF they don't take the bait and get bogged down with inevitable depression, despair, hopelessness, laziness and paranoia -- the eventual aftermath of chronic pot smoking for most. Yes, yes -- I realize there are exceptions.

I don't think this is the time to open up the floodgates for weed stores and a generation of paid parasitic zombies who will be useless for our side when the SHTF.

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-13   15:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Liberator (#8)

1) For the record I support medicinal marijuana. Recreationally, it's a menace because it will be abused AND because it is a de-motivator.

2) Of ALL hills to die on; of ALL crusades to fight; of ALL political policies to get pissed off about -- THIS one makes a difference??

1). Exactly.

2). I'm glad I'm not the only poster here smart enough to wonder WHY the pro drug agenda is DickTards white whale.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-13   15:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: GrandIsland (#23)

I'm glad I'm not the only poster here smart enough to wonder WHY ...

You really have an over-inflated sense of yourself, don't you?

buckeroo  posted on  2018-01-13   15:05:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Gatlin (#20)

And why would anyone need to rely on smoking pot to improve their personality when research has shown that marijuana smokers are diagnosed with depression more often than nonsmokers are?

Because drug users are WEAK SHEEP... and people like DickTard like his peers living in servitude to an addiction. An "addiction" that has been wrongly called a disease. The YELLA is strong in the "disease" ideology.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-13   15:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeroo (#24) (Edited)

You really have an over-inflated sense of yourself, don't you?

No, not at all. I'm not great, BuckHole. It's just you (and the other posters who swallow DickTards yella bullshit, without question or wonder are stupid.

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-13   15:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#21)

It would keep you off of LF while you send yukon your sext messages.

LOL

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-13   15:12:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: GrandIsland (#23)

Yup...We've got MUCH biggest fish to fry.

So imagine this -- pot is legal in all 57 states. *cough*

How many Leftist pods/brains at leftist campuses throughout the US will be all that much easier to brainwash?

How many of them will embrace Communism now that they will not only be living down Mommy's basement till they're 35-40, but now even lazier and MORE irresponsible as pro-Commie STONERS??

How many millions of Mexican AND Americans (many named "Debbie") and Cheech & Chongs will be created?

They will be sheep to the slaughter. Not to mention all the car accidents chronic stoners will be causing.

And can you imagine their reaction to Muzzie Invaders?? "Hey man. Here, take a toke. Wait...Put the machete down, please. No really. PLEASE, DUUUDE....NOOOOOOO!!!"

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-13   15:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Liberator (#22) (Edited)

Isn't it strange that of ALL Presidencies the Elites decide to accelerate their move to legalize weed and make it some kind of crusade while Trump was elected?? Don't you find that odd?

Not really - it accelerated during Obama's reign, and Trump himself has indicated his support of states to make their own decisions concerning legalizing cannabis and maintaining a fed.gov hands-off policy.

I do believe that this is an organic, grass-roots movement - I'd like to believe that many of those in favor are aware of the 10th Amendment issues involved and will support individual state's rights in other aspects of their lives as well.

The fact that there is obvious disconnect between Trump's stated views and the recent edicts by his Attorney General leads me to believe that there is a major disagreement on what policy to take going forward. I believe Trump has criticized Sessions on other decisions, so maybe a show-down is brewing on the horizon.

Unfortunately, the vast number of tokers would be anesthetized and numbed. And probably watch MSNBC while lighting up.

My belief is that a person's political views are not dependent on whether or not they currently use cannabis - those same folks would be watching MSNBC whether they were high or not. I'm sure there are plenty of conservative folks who watch FOX News (not that they are any less of a controlled propaganda organization even though they do make an effort to appear to be) smoke reefer. The issue has decidedly become a bi-partisan one.

We have a vast number of clinical nutcases, mentally unstable people and lunatics in this country. 95% of them on the Left.

Yes we do - however to suggest that all of them are that way due to drug use is not really accurate.

And many of the intelligent ones of college age for whom the die maybe cast forever. Won't toking only make them MORE psychotic?

Well, my point is that the so-called "intelligent" ones have already taken the Blue Pill and have figuratively sold out to the NWO. The intelligent ones (those who receive the highest grades) are those who greedily drink the PC kool-aid being dispensed and march in lock-step with whatever globalist swill is foisted upon them

Then they become teachers themselves and then pass along their warped views to the next generation.

...a generation of paid parasitic zombies who will be useless for our side when the SHTF.

Plenty of outstanding, weed-smoking Patriots and Veterans may have the opportunity to prove you wrong.

In my experience, those who have the most radical views on gun ownership are the ones who are in favor of states making their own decisions about legalizing cannabis.

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One more thing - a government that has the power to decide what substances you are allowed to take is a government powerful enough to tell you what drugs you must take.

When fed.gov declares that everyone MUST smoke cannabis, that's the time to start worrying.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-13   16:10:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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