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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: Report: Frustrated Trump asks senators, why are we letting people in from “sh*thole countries”?
Source: HotAir
URL Source: https://hotair.com/archives/2018/01 ... ting-people-shthole-countries/
Published: Jan 11, 2018
Author: Allahpundit
Post Date: 2018-01-11 21:58:11 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 2561
Comments: 17

I don’t know. This doesn’t sound like the Trump *I* know.

We’re about to enter an especially fun news cycle in which the White House screeches “FAKE NEWS, HE NEVER SAID THAT” while Trump fans screech “HE’S TOTALLY RIGHT” while rattling off their own personal lists of “sh*thole countries.” Alt-righters in particular might literally wank to this story given Trump’s alleged contrast between African countries and a Nordic one.

Personally, as a patriotic American, I think all other countries are sh*tholes.
President Trump grew frustrated with lawmakers Thursday in the Oval Office when they floated restoring protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as part of a bipartisan immigration deal, according to two people briefed on the meeting.

“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” Trump said, according to these people, referring to African countries and Haiti. He then suggested that the United States should instead bring more people from countries like Norway, whose prime minister he met yesterday.

The comments left lawmakers taken aback, according to people familiar with their reactions.

It’s not clear who was at the meeting but WaPo suggests Dick Durbin was there to discuss the terrible new immigration proposal. Did Trump really think he was going to say this in front of a Democrat without it being leaked immediately?

Prepare to hear the word “blankhole” a lot on cable news over the next few days. The White House has already issued a statement, by the way — and interestingly, it doesn’t claim WaPo’s story is fake news. There’s no denial here:
Statement from @rajshah45 on WaPo "shithole" story, via @JaxAlemany pic.twitter.com/fY6yDTCeRZ

— Stefan Becket (@becket) January 11, 2018

That tells me they’re confident, no doubt correctly, that Trump voters will eat the WaPo story up. How it plays internationally with the many sh*thole countries America does business with and depends on for cooperation on counterterrorism is another matter. But that’s easily finessed: Any diplomat who asks the State Department what Trump meant by this will be assured that “of course he wasn’t talking about your homeland.” Except Haiti, I guess.

Twitter pal Kilgore Trout makes a fair point:
the shithole countries shouldn’t take it personally as Trump has spent the better part of the last decade calling America a shithole country

— Kilgore Trout (@KT_So_It_Goes) January 11, 2018

That’s the essence of nationalism! “My country has been turned into a sh*thole and will remain so until it elects me to start clearing out the foreigners.” Make America Great Again is premised on the idea that America is a sh*thole. Or was as of January 19, 2017.

This is a fair point too, sort of:
I don't get it.

Isn't the whole argument the left makes for amnesty based on the fact that the countries they come from are "s**thole countries"?

These idiots are going to say Trump's comments were offensive.

But their better arg would be that he's right, therefore amnesty.

— Heimish Conservative (@HeimishCon) January 11, 2018

Liberals would gasp in horror that anyone would accuse them of thinking another country is a “sh*thole” (except Syria, maybe), but yes, of course it’s true that poor conditions abroad are a staple of open-borders arguments. In extreme cases like Syria it’s an argument for a generous refugee policy, but the “sh*thole” logic reaches beyond obvious humanitarian disasters. One of the defenses of letting child migrants in during the border surge a few years ago was that their home countries weren’t as safe as they should be thanks to drug cartels and street gangs. It’s not that the left disagrees with the concept of “sh*thole countries.” They just think that’s an argument for immigration to the United States from those places rather than against it.

I sure hope Trump is preparing some sort of politic answer for the first time he’s asked, “Which countries are sh*tholes, Mr. President?” Otherwise, Trump being Trump, he’s just going to blurt out “the brown ones” and then we’ve got a whole new news cycle to deal with. Maybe he’ll do like he did with version three of his travel ban and stick some country in there that subverts the racial/religious narrative. He added Venezuela to the ban to undercut arguments that it was aimed at Muslims. If he wants to undercut arguments that the “sh*tholes” are all black and Latino, may I suggest including Russia?

Here’s Tapper furrowing his brow over Trump’s comment. If nothing else good comes of this, at least Trump got Jake Tapper to curse on live television.
President Trump expressed frustration behind closed doors with people coming to the US from "shithole countries," according to a Washington Post report https://t.co/fsiQqROeQm pic.twitter.com/MfAadyC2N8

— The Lead CNN (@TheLeadCNN) January 11, 2018

Update: An unlikely source flags a problem with Trump’s logic:
Option A: El Salvador isn't a "shithole," so they don't need 17 years of Temporary Protected Status, and migrants from there should be sent home immediately. Option B: El Salvador is, in fact, a "shithole." https://t.co/sea1sKoY8K

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) January 11, 2018

Temporary Protected Status is a sort of temporary refugee designation due to dangerous conditions in a person’s home country. The “sh*thole” talk actually reinforces the idea that places like El Salvador are still dangerous. How do you lift TPS and send El Salvadorans who are currently in the U.S. home if you’re all but admitting that it’s unsafe?

Update: Norwegian socialists versus poor but hard-working Africans. Why would Trump prefer the former to the latter?
So the President would prefer we allow Norwegian socialists with no special love of America into the country, but not the Ghanan who will work his ass off with a grand appreciation for our free market system and raise his kids to be proud Americans.

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) January 11, 2018

Update: A fair retort to theatrical liberal horror at Trump’s comment:
Those feigning outrage over Trump's shithole comments just want to go back to calling West Virginia, Alabama, and Kentucky, shithole states.

— id est (@idestHQ) January 11, 2018


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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?”

Gosh.... I'm more proud of our president, daily. Trump doesn't speak with politically correct forked tongue.

Say it the way it is, Trump... and if it hurts people's feelings, TFB.

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-11   22:06:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: GrandIsland (#1)

Trunp could hire a speech writer to soften the edges of his pointed question. But the tight-wad is a Billionaire and doesn't give a shit.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-01-11   22:09:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#2)

I'm glad he calls other SHITHOLES... SHITHOLES. That's called honesty. You best unpussify, Bucky... or melt like a snowflake

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-12   7:45:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: GrandIsland, buckeroo, misterwhite, Vicomte13, rlk, (#11)

Trump now denying he said "shitholes".

Trump denies 'shithole' comment, but admits 'tough' language

President Trump on Friday rejected reports that he told lawmakers that the U.S. should block immigrants from "shithole" countries, but admitted he used "tough" language in that meeting.

"The language used by me at the DACA meeting was tough, but this was not the language used," Trump tweeted Friday. "What was really tough was the outlandish proposal made — a big setback for DACA!"

...


Teh Donald is innocent! It's a frame-up!

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-12   8:31:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All, GrandIsland, buckeroo, misterwhite, Vicomte13, rlk, Liberator (#12)

The Asians are having a hard time.

Asian Media Gets Its Hands Dirty Trying To Translate Trump

Asian media has apparently had a rough time trying to figure out exactly how to translate President Donald Trump’s recent comment about “shithole countries.”

“Why do we want all these people from ‘shithole countries’ coming here?” Trump reportedly asked lawmakers at the White House Thursday.

Translators worldwide have long struggled to make the president’s often unusual rhetoric accessible in other languages, with some Japanese translators expressing frustration with the “nightmarish” task of turning “Trumpese” into something their readers can understand.

With the president’s supposed “shithole” comment, translators at Asian media outlets have once again found themselves facing a challenge, specifically translating Trump’s alleged statements without unintentionally offending their readers.

The Japanese media outlet NHK decided to go with “filthy countries, but the newswire Jiji Press went with “countries like toilets,” according to Channel News Asia. The Sankei Shimbun took a similar approach and translated the president’s comment as “countries as dirty as outdoor toilets.”

South Korea’s Yonhap News Agency ended up calling the countries “beggar’s dens.” Another South Korean outlet followed suit but decided to write the English word out.
South Korean media are having to spell out “shithole” in English today https://t.co/070ts6Y9lm pic.twitter.com/jNLWmYWFP5

— Anna Fifield (@annafifield) January 12, 2018

Taiwan’s CNA reportedly translated it as “countries where birds don’t lay eggs,” and mainland China thought “rotten countries” was better than the colloquial “places where not even the birds will poop.”

Vietnam did the same, going with “rotten countries,” as well as “dirty” and “rubbish countries.”

The Philippines, which has a president famous for his bombastic and foul-mouthed rhetoric characterized by the use of a variety of curse words, appeared to have no problem translating Trump’s language, translating it directly as “shithole.”

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