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Title: Requiem: What Happened To Ron Paul Supporters In The Age of Trump
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Published: Jul 5, 2017
Author: Alice Salles
Post Date: 2018-01-07 12:17:55 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 1125
Comments: 18
Poster’s Preamble: Ron Paul’s libertarianism is far to complex to be understandable by anyone but the diehard Paultards. For example, it appears obvious that Ron Paul’s libertarianism stops at the American water’s edge when be became one of the most outspoken American supporters fot the Russian invasion and occupation of Crimea. Seems like there's a lot of that type of Ron Paul’s libertarianism going around....but those will be saved along with much more for another day. Meanwhile, moving on ... We must also understand that, at the height of Paul’s popularity during the 2012 presidential campaign, Paul’s appeal was such that both tea party patriots and young, pot-smoking college students were able to come together to stand for the same candidate. But by 2016, dissatisfaction with American politics had become the norm. As the tension built up, the explosive Trump campaign seemed to strike a vein with a great deal of Americans by simply remaining on attack mode against a corrupt “Washington machine” embodied by Hillary Clinton. The new dynamic brought Paul supporters to the realization that Paul himself wasn’t the leader they hoped him to be. Instead, many finally realized, he had remained true only to his goal. It finally dawned on them he wasn’t in the business of making anyone happy, he was here only for liberty. The bitterness that followed this harsh descent into reality naturally broke some supporters apart — especially the naive ones. Those not mature enough to understand Paul had no reason to cater to them started flirting with the idea of becoming social justice warriors themselves, ignoring the lessons laid out by their former hero. Some remained true to their principles, continuing to respect Paul as a genuine lover of liberty. But others simply moved on. In the following paragraphs, we’ll attempt to explain how this rupture came to be, and why Paul supporters seem to miss the real value of the former congressman’s rich career. Not The Leader They Want Dr. Paul didn’t just make history as the first and only congressman to hit a ball out of the park during a Congressional Baseball Game. His impact will continue to be felt across many generations of Americans — and foreigners — because of his unshakable belief in the core political and economics principles that guided his political career. Paul served as the image of an untouchable in Washington, D.C., from his first congressional stints in the late 1970s and through half of the 80s, then again in 1997 up until his 2012 retirement speech, when he challenged his fellow lawmakers as well as the public to consider liberty as the only cause worth pursuing. Someone who lives by truth and whose freedom is solely dependent on it — a true martyr for liberty. To those who listened, admired, or perhaps simply identified with the Texas congressman and his politics, he was a man worth looking up to in an environment where perverted incentives created by the evils of crony capitalism distort the very core of otherwise good men and women. He was the embodiment of righteousness in a world covered by darkness. More recently, as he ran for president in 2008 and 2012, Paul made a point to never endorse a candidate for president whose beliefs and actions didn’t match his own. The following he gathered then, mostly young, thirsty, and earnest college age adults, cheered. But as he remained relevant after his political career was over, thanks to the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity, or the now very active Ron Paul Liberty Report, he continued to captivate new audiences while maintaining some of those who were enamored by the courage displayed during his presidential runs. But to those who were young then, the time came to move on and for many to choose their own battles as they saw fit. Young men and women who shed tears of joy during his 2012 speeches now had to face the big, bad world all on their own. Some went into politics, despite Paul’s warnings about the evils lurking in Washington. Others took on intellectual pursuits to spread the message of liberty on campuses and across the media. Some simply went on with their lives, taking up careers that had nothing to do with the pursuit of liberty. After two terms of President Barack Obama, whose charisma managed to shield him from scrutiny concerning his blatantly bloodthirsty foreign policy, his disdain for sound economics, and his disregard for principles he claimed to embody during his first presidential campaign, Paul supporters felt they had nowhere to run. Some took on Paul’s suggestion of simply focusing on policies, which is what he continued doing. But as he commented on the 2016 election on his Liberty Report, he often pointed out whenever candidates would get something right, even if he wasn’t necessarily in agreement with that candidate’s entire platform. When Trump would criticize the Iraq war, comment on the irrationality of going after Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, or attack candidate Hillary Clinton for her despicable record as Obama’s secretary of state, Paul would rightly agree. But when Trump went on about protectionism, nationalist policies that will eventually hurt more than help American workers, or when he would simply blacklist Iran as the real problem with the Middle East, Paul would disagree, explaining why Trump’s reasoning wasn’t based on facts. Many Paulians who saw his eventual “support” of Trump as a betrayal began to listen to longtime foes of the good ob-gyn from Texas. These foes, who always attacked Paul for being for anything that expanded liberty, including the now popular idea of secession, became their new messiahs. But other Paulians who saw Trump as, at best, the better option, didn’t budge. Soon enough, they tagged along with the army of Pepe-loving conservatives who saw Trump as a way to both discredit the presidential office and bring about chaos as a way of weakening the state. And that’s what we continue to see now. Like Obama before him, though, Trump has moved away from positions he was very loud about during his campaign. He has bombed Syria and continues to do so despite his criticism of Clinton for her desire to bring Assad down. He has gone back on NATO, despite having at least told world leaders to their face that American taxpayers didn’t deserve to carry the heavy load, and he has even gone soft on Saudi Arabia, the same country that mastered cronyism in Washington with Clinton and Obama in power. Regardless, it’s Trump’s demeanor that continues to bother the media and a good chunk of the public. It’s his late night or early morning tweets that become the news, and it’s his blunt mannerisms that hurt the sensibilities of a press grown fat on overindulging in self-fulfilling prophecies, reporting on news carefully groomed both by journalists and politicians ever-reluctant to do their jobs. And a body of reporters who are too used to the cozy halls of power to, all of a sudden, feel like they need to work a bit harder to get a good interview. To the Paulians who remained politically active and who see the value in supporting this circus in the name of a collapse, the ongoing battle over narrative is an exciting development. But to the Paulians whose faith in his former martyr waned over his willingness to admit when someone is right, this fight is just not worth it. They have embraced political correctness as a means to achieve liberty, perhaps unaware of the real-world consequences of such tyrannical cultural trends. As a result, they turned their back on Paul’s message of focusing on decentralization. What The Ron Paul Movement Really Is All About The Ron Paul movement was never a homogenous mob against the state. Comprised of very different individuals whose core principles matched Paul’s, many of these men and women were, and continue to be, free thinkers, who rely on nobody but themselves to know what is wrong and what is right. But others who saw in Paul a mighty leader preferred to blame him for his movement’s diversity. They began to see him as the reason why so many libertarians chose to ride the Trump wave. So it’s no wonder that when former faithful Ron Paul supporters battle one another online over Trump or anything related to the president’s effect on America, sparks often turn into fires. And as we all know, fire is known to consume everything it touches. Still, Paul isn’t interested in what his followers do or think. He isn’t interested in changing anyone’s mind — he never has been. He remains unbreakable. His beliefs remain the same. His message continues to be one of serving liberty and liberty only, for no man or man-made system is stronger or better suited to help mankind thrive and grow. And whether you believe that removing yourself completely from the political machine or being intimately involved with it are the only two ways to go about achieving liberty doesn’t matter. Paul’s legacy isn’t built on the gains made by a leader, as you may recall. He was — and still is — a martyr in the sense he has given it all and continues to give it all in the pursuit of liberty, and as a result, what he suffered along the way doesn’t bother him. And perhaps that’s why those who steer away from his influence tend to be so rabidly against him; after all, it isn’t easy to admit you aren’t jealous of what he accomplished if you aren’t willing to admit he was never the leader you wanted to see. In a world where everyone wants to lead, Ron Paul is the wrong role model, for he isn’t willing to tell others what to do. What he does instead is to take responsibility for what he does and says only. The rest is history. There are a few of Ron Paul’s vociferous useful idiot supporters (aka Paultards), who are pale and male with their arguments having long grown stale, still around in the age of Trump and posting on LF....continuing to be notorious forum disruptors in the true Paultard asshole tradition. They are however spreading their failing and dying libertarian philosophy less as time goes by....thank the good Lord for that. While Ron Paul has never been able to deliver on his promises or to satisfy any of the Paultards’ expectations, a very small number of cultish supporters strive hard to keep his reactionary views and fading memory alive.
Main Article: To understand what is currently going on in the minds of Ron Paul enthusiasts in the age of President Donald Trump, we must first understand what Paul represented as both a congressman and a presidential candidate.
Poster’s Closing Comment: In lieu of flowers to show appreciation for this outstanding posting, you are asked to please send a most generous donation to the Trump 2020 Campaign.
May the memory of the Ron Paul Revolution forever rest in peace.
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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)
blah,blah,blah Why don't you just post an article and let the forum add commentary as opposed to yourself performing a typical tater "mashed potatoes" BS commentary upfront and preceding the article. Outside of your silly bullshit, the article was fairely good.
Invasion and occupation of Crimea? You make it sound like the Crimeans didn't invite them in with some 90%+ supporting them in a referendum (I suppose the Russians meddled in that vote too, right?) Crimea used to be part of Russia until Khrushchev gave it to Ukraine back in the 50's. How much protesting was there from the US over Ukraine's annexing it then? Our own Constitution certifies the right of the people to abolish governments when it fails to serve the best interests of the people, so how is it this right isn't extended to Crimeans? Oh, that's right, you don't believe in those rights. You are a diehard authoritarian.
OOPPSS! The Declaration of Independence is what you meant to suggest.
You make it sound like the Crimeans didn't invite them in ... I am sorry if that statement offended you and perhaps I used a poor choice of words....if I did, then for that I apologize. The point here is not what it’s called....it’s Ron Paul’s support of it. Would it be more palatable to you if I say that: Ron Paul is supporting Russia’s illegal occupation of Crimea and “the libertarian godfather has become one of the biggest cheerleaders for the "referendum" that will lead to Russia's annexation of the Ukrainian peninsula?” Edit: When the population of California becomes some 90+ percent of people with Mexican heritage, as it will no doubt someday be, will it be okay with you if they invite the Mexican army in to take over and occupy California? Although I do realize that some would see this as Mexico’s “loss” and our “gain”....if you get my drift.
Good catch. Thank you!
Do an Internet search of Alice Salles (author of this article presented by tater)as you have an opportunity. She writes for a number of personal liberty and freedom papers such as Mises. tater didn't know what he presented to LF but he deserves a thanks no matter how ignorant he really is.
Tell tater thanks for being so ignorant from me. He's on bozo.
First you need to define “the people” before I can even attempt to answer your questionable thesis. Please do that.
I know it is probably improper to answer a question with a question, but I find it appropriate to do so in this case. Therefore, since our own Declaration of Independence certifies the right of the people to abolish governments when it fails to serve the best interests of the people, so how is it this right isn't extended to” Angelenos for them to abolish the both state and federal government and become a part of Mexico?
But, but ...but, he is sooo much more! He is a total goofball and forum idiot. Shall I also inform him of my personal opinion in one, singular posting?
Tell Fred that I like the contradictory lie in Alice Salles’ summation best, when she said: All Ron Paul has ever done is to tell others what to do....he has never ACCOMPLISHED anything on his own. And since you are official realy, ask Fred: Has he?
Ron Paul is a libertarian; the last thing he is doing is telling others what to do. If you need a leader to take you to the trough of personal responsibility, that is your problem; in fact, your personal philosophy about life is how you have some government stipend for your tater peelin' days on active duty in the USAF. Glad you are a small minority in this world. Most of America knows, we can't afford stupid tater peelers in modern society.
That is, of course, a rhetorical question that needs no answer....it is more a statement of fact! Ah! No typos that I can “see.” But that is not much of a testimonial.
“Why can’t you” accept the fact that I am going to do whatever I want to do We were all hoping the your political philosophy would evolve, but perhaps you've gone too far?
Liberty can only be had in conjunction with prudance and sound judgement. Without those two things it rapidly becomes destructive and madness. That is what we have today--a nation full of impulsive psychopathic deviance shouting Freedom and liberty with other people compelled to pay for the damages.
Have you ever reflected on the FACT, that I see no errors of and about Ron Paul's political philosophy? Even if you have or haven't that is your problem, tater. But your comment points to a problem within your inner brain tissue that needs adjusting as you make a lot of stupid assumptions.
I also supported it. Crimea is Russian. Has been for centuries. The people there wanted to be Russian, and after a Western-engineered mob drove out the legitimate government of the Ukraine, the Russians of Russian Crimea decided that they wanted a reversal of Kruschchev's unilateral decision to give a part of Russia to the Ukraine. They voted to join Russia, and did. It was never any of our business.
Poster’s Preamble:
#2. To: Gatlin (#0)
For example, it appears obvious that Ron Paul’s libertarianism stops at the American water’s edge when be became one of the most outspoken American supporters fot the Russian invasion and occupation of Crimea.
#3. To: Pinguinite (#2)
Our own [US} Constitution certifies the right of the people to abolish governments when it fails to serve the best interests of the people, so how is it this right isn't extended to Crimeans?
#4. To: Pinguinite (#2)
(Edited)
Invasion and occupation of Crimea?
You may call it an invitation....others call it an invasion.
#5. To: buckeroo (#3)
#6. To: Pinguinite, tater (#5)
#7. To: buckeroo (#6)
tater didn't know what he presented to LF but he deserves a thanks no matter how ignorant he really is.
#8. To: Pinguinite (#2)
(Edited)
Our own Constitution certifies the right of the people to abolish governments when it fails to serve the best interests of the people, so how is it this right isn't extended to Crimeans?
#9. To: Pinguinite (#5)
(Edited)
Our own Constitution certifies the right of the people to abolish governments when it fails to serve the best interests of the people, so how is it this right isn't extended to Crimeans?
#10. To: Fred Mertz, tater (#7)
Tell tater thanks for being so ignorant from me.
#11. To: buckeroo (#10)
Fred Mertz: Tell tater thanks ...
In a world where everyone wants to lead, Ron Paul is the wrong role model, for he isn’t willing to tell others what to do ...
#12. To: Gatlin aka gas bag, Fred Mertz (#11)
All Ron Paul has ever done is to tell others what to do....he has never ACCOMPLISHED anything on his own.
#13. To: buckeroo (#1)
Why don't you ....
“Why can’t you” accept the fact that I am going to do whatever I want to do and nothing you can say or suggest will make me do any differently?
#14. To: Gatlin, libertine anarchist (#13)
#15. To: buckeroo (#12)
Ron Paul is a libertarian; the last thing he is doing is telling others what to do.
Oh, Yea?
There are numerous more of these “tells”...but I will stop here since you can now see the error in your weak supporting statement for Ron Paul. Glad you are a small minority in this world.
That “small minority” comment is hilariously funny coming from a “Six Percenter”.
#16. To: Gatlin (#0)
(Edited)
It finally dawned on them he wasn’t in the business of making anyone happy, he was here only for liberty.
#17. To: Gatlin (#15)
... but I will stop here since you can now see the error in your weak supporting statement for Ron Paul.
#18. To: Gatlin (#4)
it’s Ron Paul’s support of it.
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