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Title: Rand Paul puts hold on Trump nominee over surveillance concerns
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The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/ ... nee-over-surveillance-concerns
Published: Dec 22, 2017
Author: John Bowden
Post Date: 2017-12-23 20:03:46 by Hondo68
Keywords: Section 702 surveillance, provides a backdoor, surveil American citizens
Views: 2218
Comments: 25
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) is putting a hold on one of President Trump's picks to the Justice Department over concerns about the nominee's views on warrantless wiretaps and surveillance, The Daily Beast reported. Paul, who sits on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, has temporarily blocked John Demers's nomination to be assistant attorney general for the Justice Department’s National Security Division. The position is one of three in the Justice Department with the authority to issue Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants, which allow the government to conduct surveillance on non-American targets outside the United States, even when they communicate with Americans. So-called Section 702 surveillance, named after the part of FISA authorizing the spy program, has been controversial. Civil libertarians have pushed to reform the law, saying it provides a backdoor for authorities to surveil American citizens. Demers is currently assistant general counsel at Boeing and has spoken favorably about Section 702 surveillance. One former National Security Division official told the news service that Demers was “unobjectionable and not particularly partisan,” and stated that officials in the division were relieved to hear Trump had nominated the largely uncontroversial nominee to the post. Earlier this week, Paul threatened to filibuster any long-term extension of Section 702. Section 702 was set to expire at the end of the year but lawmakers passed a short-term extension in a spending bill. “I will actively oppose and filibuster any long term extension of warrantless searches of American citizens,” Paul tweeted on Wednesday. 
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)
Warrant-less search & seizures? According to some on LF, "this is what makes America Great again!
Attaboy Rand, "You're the Man Now, Dog" Yes Sir, flex YOUR muscle and put a hold on John Demers's nomination and YOU keep those current occupants of seats in the DOJ that were filled by individuals handpicked by the Obama Administration....keep themthere supporting the agenda they share with Obama while they have a deep-seated animus towards Trump. Yep.... Attaboy Rand, "You're the Man Now, Dog" Libertarian asshole ...
There are many times that a "warrant-less search or seizure" are completely constitutional. Like when Ba Ba Ba Bucky is arrested for DWI... and your pockets/person is searched incident to arrest. Or how about when Mrs. Ba Ba Ba Bucky calls 911 on Ba Ba Ba Bucky because he just punched the bitch over a Christmas domestic dispute... and when the police enter the house they see a marijuana grow room that the Mrs. is excited to show the officers. How about, when Ba Ba Ba Bucky collapses from a heart attack in a public place, is rushed to the hospital and a few bundles of heroin drop out of his pocket as medical personnel remove his clothing in an effort to shock his scrawny chest? You need a few other examples? I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
You need a few other examples? Yes. I would enjoy citations to be from reality not some bullshit oozing from your keyboard.
Every example I listed, were actual real life examples I've searched and seized... many times over. I just changed the names to protect the shitbirds. I always found it interesting what an angry, scorned or battered wife would show me in her home... after I hooked up her man and stuffed his stupid ass in the patrol car. No honor amongst criminals. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
the Man Now Looks like a ghey weenie surveillance specialist, 1st Class!
So that is Constitutional grounds for warrant-less seizures? Seems to me, you have never read the US Constitution.
There are a few USSC decisions you should read up on if you are gonna CO-OCCUPY your home with Mrs. Ba Ba Ba Bucky... like Fernandez v. California as just ONE example. It might be best to live alone if you are gonna live like an anarchist asshole. Scrotum sniffer. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Well if a co-occupant invites the gestapo pigs into their own home without a warrant, they deserve what they get.
According to the pro-surveillance state contingent here at LF, "if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear". Keep in mind that the same agenda is supported by Trump. I saw that, sometyme ago. I forgot who made that claim but it was one of the most absurd pieces of absolute ca-ca I have ever seen.
Of course, the concept with these pathetic signatories of a police state is: "government is good." But, I was referring to some of our LF posters taking up that cockamamie as gospel.
What 'seizures' are you talking about? This concerns the wiretapping of foreigners who have no 4th amendment protection. If an American citizen is on the other end of the conversation, their name is hidden (masked) in the report. If the wiretapping agency demonstrates a national security need to un- mask the name, they can submit a warrant request to FISA. Without a warrant, obtaining this information is illegal under federal law and could not be used in a court of law.
Uh huh, I see that your warped low intelligence is presenting another Nazi parallel. What Roosevelt so wisely said is really true and befitting to all occasions. Yes, it is definitely true that “all you have to fear is fear itself.” And what you libertarians, cop-haters and anti-government (anarchists) do with what you perceive as fear....is to constantly try to spread FEAR itself. So Stop! I want you to now memorize a biblical verse. You should already have it committed to memory, but knowing you heathens as well as I do....you probably have never heard it. So, memorize this now: Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me After that, you will smile and happily go on your way as you quit bothering people....and learn to lead a pleasant life filled with many wonders.
So Stop! Nope. The force of government is a serious EVIL. Daily we see examples of the atrocities that you stupid asses celebrate about the decline of human dignity and the individual spirit.
According to the pro-surveillance state contingent here at LF, "if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear". Always remember: “The only thing we have to fear is feat itself.”
You were an FDR yute? Not surprising for an LBJ Republican, McCain voter.
If the shoe fits. You and Lady Lindsey are cut from the same totalitarian cloth. “all you have to fear is fear itself.” Awareness is not fear. It's you and the other surveillance state worshipers who fear their fellow citizens. You were an FDR yute? It's not surprising that Gatlin uses FDR as an example of what a good president should be. I think you meant to suggest, "The only thing we have to fear is the feet of government trampling our rights, liberties and freedoms.”
If the shoe fits. Your dirty old worn out shoe doesn’t fit me and I would never try it on. You are the one posting the Nazi memes....not I. Is your vocabulary so restricted that you cannot find words to express your thoughts? Rhetorical question....neve mind trying to answer. You have constantly proven that it is.
Didn’t do that....I only pointed out a wise statement he made. But I erred in doing so....you obviously didn’t understand it.
That’s true. But you consistently turn awareness into fear and constantly try to spread it. You have been doing the same thing for MANY years now. Tell me exactly how you are worse off today than you were long ago when your started your fear-mongering crusade.
#2. To: All (#0)
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) is putting a hold on one of President Trump's picks to the Justice Department over concerns ...
#3. To: buckeroo (#1)
(Edited)
Warrant-less search & seizures? According to some on LF, "this is what makes America Great again!
#4. To: GrandIsland (#3)
There are many times that a "warrant-less search or seizure" are completely constitutional.
#5. To: buckeroo (#4)
(Edited)
I would enjoy citations to be from reality not some bullshit
#6. To: Gatlin, yukon, tater, FireIsland, Paid Liberal Trolls (#2)
#7. To: GrandIsland (#5)
I always found it interesting what an angry, scorned or battered wife would show me in her home ...
#8. To: buckeroo (#7)
#9. To: GrandIsland (#8)
#10. To: buckeroo, Gatlin, GrandIsland, misterwhite (#1)
Warrant-less search & seizures? According to some on LF, "this is what makes America Great again!
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#11. To: Gatlin, Hondo68, buckeroo (#2)
...keep them there supporting the agenda they share with Obama...
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#12. To: Deckard (#10)
"if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear".
#13. To: buckeroo (#12)
I saw that, sometyme ago. I forgot who made that claim but it was one of the most absurd pieces of absolute ca-ca I have ever seen.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#14. To: Deckard (#13)
#15. To: Deckard (#10)
Warrant-less search & seizures?
#16. To: Deckard, All libetards, cop-haters and government-haters (#13)
Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me ~ Psalm 23:4
And from this day forward when you see, hear or read anything that has a logical explanation or responsible action, then before you assholes fear-mongers get yourselves all excited and filled with fear to begin intentionally and maliciously spreading fear....you need to pause and to ten times slowly say:
#17. To: tater (#16)
What Roosevelt so wisely said is really true and befitting to all occasions. Yes, it is definitely true that “all you have to fear is fear itself.” And what you libertarians, cop-haters and anti-government (anarchists) do with what you perceive as fear....is to constantly try to spread FEAR itself.
#18. To: Deckard (#10)
Warrant-less search & seizures? According to some on LF, "this is what makes America Great again!
According to the fear-mongers, if you don’t make up shit and become a party to the spreading of frightening and exaggerated rumors about some impending danger, then you have failed your primary mission in this life which was to purposely and needlessly arousing public fear about an issue.
#19. To: Gatlin, young FDR socialist (#16)
What Roosevelt so wisely said is really true and befitting to all occasions.
#20. To: Gatlin (#16)
...another Nazi parallel.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#21. To: hondo68 (#19)
(Edited)
What Roosevelt so wisely said is really true and befitting to all occasions.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#22. To: tater (#18)
“The only thing we have to fear is feat [sic] itself.”
#23. To: Deckard (#20)
...another Nazi parallel.
#24. To: Deckard (#21)
It's not surprising that Gatlin uses FDR as an example of what a good president should be.
#25. To: Deckard (#20)
Awareness is not fear.
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