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Title: Big Brother installing surveillance cameras in places of worship
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From The Trenches/MassPrivateI
URL Source: http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.c ... -cameras-places-worship/213948
Published: Dec 14, 2017
Author: MassPrivateI
Post Date: 2017-12-15 06:03:11 by Deckard
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Comments: 53
MassPrivateI Forget the fact, that minsters, priests, rabbis etc., are secretly spying on worshippers. Forget the fact, that places of worship want their own police force..Forget the fact that places of worship are conducting ‘Holy Ghost pat-downs’. And finally, forget the fact that places of worship are paying the government a $100 dollars a month to spy on families. Because now, Big Brother has convinced places of worship to install surveillance cameras to spy on their followers. Big Brother’s surveillance of religions, would make the old NKVD blush with envy. A recent article in The Advocate, warns that ProjectNola plans to install more than 100 surveillance cameras in places of worship. ProjectNola’s first phase is to spend $1 million dollars on surveillance cameras in places of worship. Every place of worship to have surveillance cameras Big Brother wants surveillance cameras in every place of worship. Just think about that for a moment, soon every place of worship will have surveillance cameras. Even Orwell's book 1984 wasn’t that grim. Who needs God’s all seeing eye, when the police can do it for him in real-time? Law enforcement will spy on worshippers in real-time The above video, shows how law enforcement has been using ProjectNola to spy on citizens in real-time since 2011. Church surveillance cameras, combined with license plate readers will give Big Brother unimaginable real-time spying capabilities. It appears that ProjectNola, is mirrored after DHS’s ‘See Something Say Something’ program that encourages businesses and home owners to spy on one another. As I mentioned two months ago, ProjectNola has been so successful, it appears that DHS has copied it and renamed it ‘Virtual Block Watch‘ (VBW). Nothing says police state, quite like ProjectNola making $200,000 annually on surveillance camera maintenance fees. What do ProjectNola and VBW have in common? First off, ProjectNola was designed by former police officer, Bryan LaGarde who charged homeowners and businesses $346.00 dollars for a ‘crime camera kit’. A surveillance network designed by a police officer? Nothing suspicious about that right? ProjectNola also claims to be “the largest networked HD city-wide crime camera system in America”. And just like ProjectNola, VBW wants businesses and residents to purchase and install their own surveillance cameras. But VBW has taken police spying to a whole new level. Police are asking homeowners and businesses to install four surveillance cameras. “Cameras are attached to houses on each end of a city block and then a third house in the middle.” Do police really need another surveillance system to spy on everyone? Fyi, Nvidia is planning on turning police vehicles into 360 degree facial recognition cameras. Please, don’t be fooled by whatever names law enforcement calls them. Hopefully, most of us know what their real names are, ‘Project DHS’ and ‘Police Surveillance Watch’. Americans need more privacy not less. https://massprivatei.blogspot.com/2017/12/big-brother-installing-surveillance.html
“Equipping every church in New Orleans with a surveillance camera is one of the goals of the NOLA Partnership for Public Safety and Peace.”
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#13. To: sneakypete (#12)
They already have. The Whole POINT of the Internet of Things Is So Big Brother Can Spy On You You HAVE to be kidding! Why the HELL would anyone put up cameras to record themselves committing felony crimes? Although I do remember one idiot couple of wannabe mercenaries that actually kidnapped a stranger in Florida,and then recorded themselves tying him to a tree to torture and murder him in order to "enhance their legends" when posting "guns for hire" ads in the back of Soldier of Fortune magazine. No Bush. Cold-blooded murder on camera,and they took turns filming each other slowly torturing him to death with knives,and IIRC,one of them eventually shot him in the head while the other one filmed it. It should go without saying that they were both arrested for 1st degree murder and kidnapping immediately after sending the ad in to the magazine. It's been a long time and I don't remember now how potential clients were able to review the video,but it was public. I even watched enough of it on my computer to verify it wasn't a joke someone was playing. I never did hear what finally happened to them,but Florida is a death penalty state and these people were obviously nuts,so I am guessing they were sent to a mental institution for life after their court-appointed attorney plead the case. No way in hell were they ever going to beat THAT rap,but IMHO,they should have been put to death and the money spent caring for them for several decades should have been spend on harmless nutcases with some chance of recovery. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
A surveillance network designed by a police officer? Nothing suspicious about that right? Did he show his camera and his gun to "convince" them to buy it? If not,why the hell do you care. Don't people have a right to buy that crap if they want it and have the money to pay for it? More importantly,DON'T FREE PEOPLE IN A FREE COUNTRY HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEND THEIR MONEY HOW THEY CHOOSE AS LONG AS IT ISN'T TO PURPOSELY HARM SOMEONE ELSE? In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
ISLAM is more of a government than it is a religion. In FACT,it would be accurate to say it is a GOVERNMENT POSING AS A RELIGION. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
How is it "government out of control" when it is private individuals voluntarily spending their own money to buy it? Do you believe US Citizens have the right to live their lives as they choose as long as they aren't harming anyone else,or not? Make up your mind,because you can't have it both ways. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Ahhhh,so you are an accomplice/goobermint agent that haunts internet sites to compile lists! Thank you for outing yourself with that confession. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Dang! You figured it out. You must be a really smart person. 9 hours a day of snores and farts. Jeez, and here I thought NSA work was GLAMOROUS!
Dang! You figured it out. You must be a really smart person. Yeah,I am smart,but being smart has nothing to do with it. You confessed. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I've executed many search warrants on structures associated with drug activity... MANY have outside surveillance video systems. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Deckard, you really need to stop disseminating all this scaremongering bullshit….where you are continually spreading partially true, yet frightening and exaggerated stories. Your habitual tactic of purposely and needlessly trying to arouse public fear about an issue when there is no cause for concern has long since grown old. What you are doing, and you well know that you are doing it, is posting your yellow journalism articles as a form of psychological manipulation for use as fear-based scare tactics since the articles include gross exaggerations and repetition to try to influence readers in order to achieve your agenda. You no doubt know, because you consistently use it, that fear is an emotion that can easily be exploited and it is the one predominate instrument you and your group of fear mongers consistently use. This is evidenced by the continual flow of your posted articles using this tactic of scare over and over. There is nothing sinister at all with these private property churches deciding to install security cameras as deterrent protective devices for their congregations. The justification for the desperate need can clearly been seen in the homicidal acts committed in the incidents in churches listed below. There is no “Big Brother” movement here….none at all. To be sure, you and your group has overused this cliché so much that it has become trite and hackneyed. Christ, if you are going to persist in this mundane fear tactic chicanery….at lest get yourself some new buzz words. The “Big Brother” you are implying here is non existent and all there is are some private party entities (churches) contracting with a non-profit private crime camera system (ProjectNOLA) to use a system which is highly proven and extremely successful while still actively protecting individual privacy. I of am of course not a professionally trained psychiatrist and I am not trying to act as one, but a rational person with common sense can easily see that your paranoia involves some intense anxiously fearful feelings and thoughts related to conspiracies. I believe that evidence of your actions, irrational thoughts and firm beliefs shows that they have become so fixed in your mind pursuing your agenda that nothing….including FIRM contrary evidence…can ever convince you that what you think and feel is not true. I will close by saying that there is no cause for concern with churches choosing to install security systems. There is however cause for concern about you maliciously spreading FALSE scare tactics when the churches are now only choosing to find ways to protect their congregations. Shame on you …
“Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
Shame on you…you Fear Mongerer.
Spoken like a true slave - one who loves his chains.
Wise advice in this day and age. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
That’s puzzling. With your astute in-depth insight ability to smartly see all things properly….can you please explain to me what action (or actions) it (or those) might be? Thank you …
I've executed many search warrants on structures associated with drug activity... MANY have outside surveillance video systems. CLEARLY the people selling the drugs were using their own product. It boggles the imagination that people would be stupid enough to record evidence against themselves,but when you think about it has there ever been a child porn arrest where the guilty party didn't have a whole damn catalogue of photos or videos of him having sex with children? Seems like a lot of these people share a narcissistic personality. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
“He thought of the telescreen with its never-sleeping ear. They could spy upon you night and day, but if you kept your head you could still outwit them. With all their cleverness they had never mastered the secret of finding out what another human being was thinking. . . . Facts, at any rate, could not be kept hidden. They could be tracked down by inquiry, they could be squeezed out of you by torture. But if the object was not to stay alive but to stay human, what difference did it ultimately make? They could not alter your feelings; for that matter you could not alter them yourself, even if you wanted to. They could lay bare in the utmost detail everything that you had done or said or thought; but the inner heart, whose workings were mysterious even to yourself, remained impregnable." ***** The book 1984 has become the playbook of the elite.
There is no “police state” placing cameras in churches. At lease no place I am aware of and I keep myself well informed on current news and news of impending actions. So, let’s cut straight through your bullshit….and you document to everyone where any so called “police state” is placing, or has placed, a single camera in one church.
Do you really think that this will remain voluntary? You really think that the global government doesn't hate religion, especially churches that don't submit to any unlawful edicts. You don't think they will be used to monitor the preaching to make sure there is no criticism of the government and then crack down on those that do? This may seem far-fetched to you - we all know that you lack any vision whatsoever. You're naive to think that this "can't happen here". Christians Hospitalized After Fighting Communist Party Orders to Install Security Cameras in Church Several Chinese Christians who fought back against Communist Party officials who ordered churches in Zhejiang Province to install security cameras, which believers fear will be used to monitor their activities, are now being treated for their injuries at a local hospital. South China Morning Post reported on Monday that the government ordered the installation of the surveillance equipment at churches for "anti-terrorism and security purposes." Believers in the city of Wenzhou, however, who are said to number close to 1 million, see it as part of the Communist Party's continued crackdown on Christianity, along with the ongoing campaign to remove crosses from church rooftops. "Government officials came to the churches and put up cameras by force. Some pastors and worshipers who didn't agree to the move were dragged away," one Christian in Wenzhou shared with the publication Thank you …
A church that sells its soul to Big Brother instead of trusting God for protection (and carrying a weapon which is commanded by Jesus) is not the kind of church that free Americans should be attending. You just don't get it - you never will. You will always trust the government to protect you, even if it means having surveillance cameras everywhere. After all "if you've done nothing wrong, then you have nothing to hide", right Parsons? Do you really think that the NSA won't be monitoring these cameras? Are you really that utterly naive? I don’t know anything about the “global government” of which you speak. Based on the structure of your question, you obviously think there is one. To be counted as a government….Repeating: To be counted as a government….any entity must possess all three of the attributes reflected in the above definition:
Can you give me a valid reason to support your suggestive thesis based on solid documentation? If you are saying that simply because I don’t place any value or belief in wild conspiracy theories that I lack any vision whatsoever….then I plead guilty as charged.
Please tell me about this mysterious “global government” of which you so strongly speak. Does it indeed have governmental character and sufficient discretion in the management of its own affairs? Where is this “global government” headquartered and who is the head of state? There are many more questions I have to ask of you, but let’s begin by you answering only those few. Do your own homework Parsons. It's also called the New World Order. Sheeple gonna sheeple.... Gatlin, etc. More... Pastors to Help DHS in Arrests and Detention of Americans in FEMA Camps (Clergy Response Teams - lying about Romans 13)
These Clergy Response Teams have been in place for a number of years now. Their main goal is to condition the sheep to submit to gun confiscation among other things. It's no surprise that most of the 501c3 churches are instructing their parishioners to love Big Brother.
Waco - Mt. Carmel. The incident in China really isn't far-fetched. You seem to believe that the government is your friend. Here's a little free advice - they're not. ...brainwashed by a dystopian novel published in 1949 Seems to me that you are the brainwashed one here Parsons if you are unable to see the parallels between what was written about in "1984" and the world today. I seriously doubt you have even read it. What I am doing here is called logical thinking. What you are doing, and obviously trying to get me to do, is to make a conjecture. Conjecture in that you are trying to use some bad reasoning that involves the formation of a conclusion from incomplete evidence… incomplete evidence that is only being slightly suggestive. Bad boy….for you doing that and trying to get me to also do that. Let’s move on to your next point….shall we?
I don’t respond to spam. If YOU have something to personally contribute, then say it… and I will be happy to respond to your statement. Stop with the “copy and paste” shit …
Is this a trick question? Come on Parsons, get serious! And is in no way indicative of any consequential parallel action here. Get fucking real …
Uh oh, tater is using explicate deletions in an overt & over-bearing pretense to dominate the discussion on a family chit-chat channel. Moderator X - please do your just diligence to remove the riff-raff.
Please un-ban Fred Mertz. Gatlin needs to check into the Betty Ford Clinic for an intensive course of rehab treatments.
I would not waste one second more of my time after learing hat your mystic New World Order is only claimed to be an emerging clandestine totalitarian world government by various conspiracy theories and it is suppose to be a secretive power elite with a globalist agenda conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian movement. You mentally unsound asshole conspiracy theorist freaks are marked by thought and action that lacks any sound reasoning. You all are unreal. The fact that the number of cognitive biases that characterize the way you CT freaks process information is your problem. I want no part of it. I will move on to see if you have something logical I can comment on. If only …
FREE FRED!
I BEES free. Thank you for your support, bucky.
And you expect me to carry on an intelligent dialogue with you while your mind wanders the universe at large. God, you should be so thankful that I have such great patience. Hey, asshole. We are specifically discussing your question where you asked me “if I don’t think the [whomever they may be] will not use the cameras in the churches to monitor the preaching …” And I said that “until I am shown a valid substantial reason to firmly believe otherwise, I have no conceivable basis to believe what you are suggesting will actually happen.” Then out of the clear blue and with no association whatsoever to our discussion, you point to Waco and Mt. Carmel. Okay, let momentarily go to your wild deflection off topic and you tell me about ProjectNOLA’s involvement in the churches at Waco and Mt. Carmel. Wati, there was none….right? Learn to stay on topic, you idiot …
No trick question….I only wanted to see you display your ignorance. I got want I went after….thanks.
There are many reasons why churches need to install security cameras. I recall a case where a mother accused a Sunday school teacher of molesting her young daughter. The man’s life and reputation could have been ruined merely by the accusation alone. But fortunately it was not since video from the church security camera proved the accusation to be entirely false. Then there was the case I remember where a two people broke into a church to steal the Sunday offering. However, a camera captured their faces and the surveillance footage was used to identify both of them and to link them not only to the robbery here, but also to a string of burglaries. These are but two real life reasons for having security cameras in a church. It is amazing that you fail to realize the full value of the safety potential for having security cameras in churches. You want body cameras on cops that without any discrimination or consideration for privacy show everything sacred in someone’s home when the cops enter and even show without any regard whatsoever for personal privacy, someone sitting on a toilet taking a crap if the cops bust in there to arrest them. It has happened. And yet you get all bent out of shape and become more intense and aggressive that what is needed when the idea of a camera possible being in a church is even mentioned. What the fuck is wrong with you, man?
You need to be worried about the ones they have placed in your bathroom and bedroom
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#14. To: GrandIsland (#3)
When a crack house puts up security cameras to watch for the cops, is that part of the "police state" too? There are more crack house cameras (quite popular today) than church cameras...
#15. To: Deckard (#4)
First off, ProjectNola was designed by former police officer, Bryan LaGarde who charged homeowners and businesses $346.00 dollars for a ‘crime camera kit’.
#16. To: hondo68 (#8)
Surveillance camera in your Mosque?
#17. To: Deckard (#9)
This is about Big Brother watching EVERYONE and an out of control surveillance state.
#18. To: Deckard (#13)
The Whole POINT of the Internet of Things Is So Big Brother Can Spy On You
#19. To: sneakypete (#12)
(Edited)
#20. To: sneakypete (#18)
Ahhhh,so you are an accomplice/goobermint agent that haunts internet sites to compile lists!
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#21. To: sneakypete (#12)
You need to be worried about the ones they have placed in your bathroom and bedroom,
#22. To: Deckard (#20)
Ahhhh,so you are an accomplice/goobermint agent that haunts internet sites to compile lists!
#23. To: sneakypete (#14)
You HAVE to be kidding! Why the HELL would anyone put up cameras to record themselves committing felony crimes?
#24. To: Deckard (#0)
(Edited)
Big Brother installing surveillance cameras in places of worship
#25. To: Gatlin (#24)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#26. To: Deckard (#25)
(Edited)
“Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
”Those who act as idiots and do not take active measures to protect themselves with modern day security devices from known threats, may not live long enough to be concerned about surrendering anything, even their very own lives” ~ Wise Old Sage - Gatlin.
#27. To: Gatlin (#26)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#28. To: Gatlin (#26)
”Those who act as idiots and do not take active measures to protect themselves with modern day security devices from known threats, may not live long enough to be concerned about surrendering anything, even their very own lives” ~ Wise Old Sage - Gatlin.
#29. To: Deckard (#27)
Spoken like a true slave - one who loves his chains.
No, I would say it is something heartfelt spoken by a person who simply cannot understand what someone would possibly be doing in a church that they would be afraid of being known or ashamed to being caught doing….and would want (or insist) their action (or actions) to be held private.
#30. To: GrandIsland (#23)
You HAVE to be kidding! Why the HELL would anyone put up cameras to record themselves committing felony crimes?
#31. To: Deckard, Gatlin (#25)
“Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
#32. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#2)
Gee whiz - kinda tough to do when the police state that you advocate is placing the cameras everywhere, even in churches.
You used the word “is” in your effort to impart an absolute malicious fabrication into your false supposition to try to gain support for your position. Why do you do such devious things as that?
#33. To: Gatlin (#32)
(Edited)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#34. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#4)
First off, ProjectNola was designed by former police officer, Bryan LaGarde who charged homeowners and businesses $346.00 dollars for a ‘crime camera kit’.
Okay….so? Is the price too high, too low or is there a problem with the equipment. A surveillance network designed by a police officer? Nothing suspicious about that right?
You are attempting to make a strong inference with you statement and open ended question here. An inference is defined as “a conclusion reached on the basis of evidence and reasoning.” In order to validate the inference you made, you must now show that you have a conclusion you reached on the basis of sound evidence and logical reasoning. Please now complete your dangling post and do that….show the evidence and reasoning.
#35. To: Gatlin (#34)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#36. To: Deckard (#33)
Do you really think that this will remain voluntary? You really think that the global government doesn't hate religion, especially churches that don't submit to any unlawful edicts.
I have no reason to believe that it will not remain voluntary. Until such time that I am shown a valid documented reason that it will not be….then based on the lack of firm evidence, that is the only logical positon I can take. A [global] government is defined an organized entity that, in addition to having governmental character, has sufficient discretion in the management of its own affairs to distinguish it as separate from the administrative structure of any other governmental unit.
Please tell me about this mysterious “global government” of which you so strongly speak. Does it indeed have governmental character and sufficient discretion in the management of its own affairs? Where is this “global government” headquartered and who is the head of state? There are many more questions I have to ask of you, but let’s begin by you answering only those few.
#37. To: Deckard (#33)
You don't think they will be used to monitor the preaching to make sure there is no criticism of the government and then crack down on those that do?
Until I am shown a valid substantial reason to firmly believe otherwise, I have no conceivable basis to believe what you are suggesting will actually happen. This may seem far-fetched to you - we all know that you lack any vision whatsoever.
Yes, I confess that it does seem very far-fetched to me. Something I might think that only someone who place to much value and was brainwashed by a dystopian novel published in 1949 could believe.
#38. To: Gatlin (#36)
(Edited)
I have no reason to believe that it will not remain voluntary
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#39. To: Deckard, Orwellian Nightmare, Clergy Response Team, DHS, tater sheeple, lying about Romans 13 (#33)
Pastors to Help DHS in Arrests and Detention of Americans in FEMA Camps
#40. To: hondo68 (#39)
#41. To: Gatlin (#37)
Can you give me a valid reason to support your suggestive thesis based on solid documentation?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#42. To: Deckard (#33)
You're naive …
Perhaps you have a misunderstanding as to what “naïve” means and really is. It has been said that a person is "naive" tends to believe in whatever he is told, without questioning whether it is right or wrong.
Knowing me as you do over these last years, do you really think I “believe in whatever I am told, without questioning whether it is right or wrong?“ If you think that, then it is you who is naïve. If you don’t think that….then don’t make such a false accusation. … this "can't happen here".
I will think that it can happen here after I am shown plausible reasons that it can possibly happen here or I am shown there is proof positive that it is in the process of actually happening here.
#43. To: Deckard (#33)
Link: Christians Hospitalized After Fighting Communist Party Orders to Install Security Cameras in Church
#44. To: Gatlin (#42)
Knowing me as you do over these last years, do you really think I “believe in whatever I am told, without questioning whether it is right or wrong?“
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#45. To: Deckard (#33)
Chinese …
“What happens in China stays in China.”
#46. To: Gatlin, Moderator X (#45)
Get fucking real …
#47. To: buckeroo, Fred Mertz, Moderator X, taters rehabilitation leave (#46)
(Edited)
Moderator X - please do your just diligence
#48. To: Deckard (#38)
Do your own homework Parsons. It's also called the New World Order.
I already did the homework….I pursued through a couple of pages of your “Guide Manual.” A couple olf pages was all I could tolerate.
#49. To: hondo68, Fred Mertz, Moderator X (#47)
Please un-ban Fred Mertz.
#50. To: buckeroo (#49)
#51. To: Deckard (#41)
Waco - Mt. Carmel.
Jesus H Christ. You can even stay on topic.
#52. To: Deckard (#44)
#53. To: Deckard (#52)
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