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Title: NRA-Republican Backed Bill Makes It Easier For Feds To Disarm Citizens
Source: Zero Hedge
URL Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017- ... it-easier-feds-disarm-citizens
Published: Dec 11, 2017
Author: Tyler Durden
Post Date: 2017-12-11 11:16:19 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 708
Comments: 23

Authored by Tho Bishop via The Mises Institute,

On Wednesday, the Republican controlled house voted to further federalize gun laws in this country.

While Ryan McMaken has noted the danger in further centralizing gun legislation, there is another deeply troubling aspect to this bill: it expands the ability of the Federal government to restrict Americans’ right to bear arms.

During the legislative process, the NRA supported merging the bill aimed at nationalizing concealed carry permits with another piece of legislation aimed at “fixing” the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS.) Obviously this legislation was inspired by the failure of the US Air Force to report the criminal record of Devin Kelley, who went on to commit a horrific shooting in Sutherland Springs, Texas. While the motivation to do something after this atrocity is entirely natural, unfortunately this bill is simply another example of the Federal government using its own failure to justify expanding its own power.

After all, the “Fix NICS” bill doesn’t seek to punish the US Air Force for its failure to properly process paperwork. Instead, it provides $760 million in additional funding for the Department of Justice to establish new guidelines to ensure compliance among Federal agencies. That funding can also be used “to ensure maximum coordination” between State government and Indian tribes with the NICS.  

While the idea of bolstering the already existing Federal gun registry may strike some as relatively benign, it’s important to understand how it has been used in the past.

As Congressman Thomas Massie noted in his own criticism of the bill:

When President Obama couldn’t get Congress to pass gun control, he implemented a strategy of compelling, through administrative rules, the Veterans Administration and the Social Security Administration to submit lists of veterans and seniors, many of whom never had a day in court, to be included in the NICS database of people prohibited from owning a firearm. Only a state court, a federal (article III) court, or a military court, should ever be able to suspend your rights for any significant period of time.

While Republicans and supporters of the NRA may not fear the Trump Administration coming after their guns, it is obviously reckless to grant additional power and resources to future administrative states that may be quite hostile to the right to gun ownership. To put it simply, there is never a good reason to give Federal agencies the power the revoke an individual's ability to lawfully purchase a weapon without due process. 

Further, if one needed an example of how dangerous it is to centralize gun legislation in Washington DC, look no further to what gun owners in states like Ohio and Hawaii are currently facing. Both states, having recently legalized the use of medical marijuana, have placed those who need it with the choice of either owning a gun or receiving life-improving medicine.

In 2011, the Federal government sent a letter to licensed gun dealers reiterating that marijuana users were prohibited from owning a gun – even if it they have a medical prescription. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld this decision last year. Hawaii, which requires gun registration, has gone as far as to sending letters to permitted gun owners with marijuana prescriptions requiring they turn over their weapon. While the state is currently asking for “voluntary cooperation,” it could be a matter of time before it turns into compulsory compliance.

While the simplicity provided by nationalizing laws is an understandable appeal, especially if you’re a gun owner who frequently travels, political centralization is never the answer. By supporting this flawed attempt at “National Concealed Carry Reciprocity,” the NRA and their supporters in the House have sided with the power of Federal agencies over the Second Amendment rights of Americans. 

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#1. To: Deckard (#0) (Edited)

Well, you Republican cheerleaders? Come and defend your boys!

Disclaimers: (1) I am an independent. I oppose major aspects of both the Democrat and Republican platforms, although I am supportive of other aspects of both.

(2) I have always been personally uninterested in the gun rights fight. To my eyes the 2nd Amendment clearly establishes a federal, personal right to keep and bear arms, which is subject to the same sort of time, place and manner regulation that speech or political activity or religion or voting or any other right is.

On THIS site, where most people are Republicans, I go after the Republicans more than the Democrats, because HERE there are so many rah-rah Republicans that I feel the need to point out Republican hypocrisy and serial dishonesty. They blow sunshine up the electorate's ass in election after election, but the only thing they ever FIGHT for or DO is to advance the cause of the very rich. The other stuff, they never manage to get done, and always have excuses. And their Stockholm-Syndrome-affilicted middle and working class supporters always seem to have an excuse for them.

I know guns rights are a HUGE thing for many on this site. So come on out, you Republican LF'rs, and explain and justify your precious party's actions here regarding your precious gun rights!

I am eager to see the tortured logic by which a Republican move in a Republican- controlled House of Representatives is the Democrats' fault.

So come on you rock-ribbed Republicans, come out and defend your party! From where I sit it looks as though they have lied to you gun nuts once again - got your votes in the election (didn't they) because those Democrats are gun- grabbers, but now that they're in power, well, down go your panties again for them to have their way with you as they do what they always do - which is represent the desires of the country club rich elite (and the country club elite don't like guns in the hands of yahoos like you, so the Republicans are obliging them).

Republicans, come out and play! Republicans, come out and play! Come on, Republicans, cat got your tongue?

Will you go ad hominem and attack ME for pointing out what YOUR party is doing to your gun rights?

Will you call ME ignorant, etc? OF COURSE YOU WILL. You always do, because you can't defend what your party does to you, so you scream at the kid who says the emperor's got no clothes.

Anything to distract from the fact that YOUR party's leaders are lying shitstains about EVERY SINGLE ISSUE THAT YOU CARE ABOUT, and you're a duped rube for following every time.

Come next election cycle, you'll be dripping foam at your mouth again against Democrats, even as you no longer can deduct your home mortgage interest, or your state income taxes, and your gun rights have been squeezed, all by your guys, again.

You Republicans never learn. Which makes it fun to ridicule you for being the duped fools that you are.

To your credit, you have thicker skins and are more able to handle criticism. Democrats on their sites just ban me and don't let me speak. You let me tweak you.

Now if you just WOKE THE FUCK UP and walked out of the GOP en masse into a NEW party of YOUR making, you could actually save your guns rights, readjust the tax code to something fair, get that Wall built and stop shipping your jobs to China. Because the Republican Party is NEVER going to give you want you want - the rich DON'T want any of that. YOU exist in the party to provide the plebian votes that keep the GOP in power, so they can pass laws beneficial to the guys down at the country club. But hey, they'll let you come onto the country club to...you can caddy for them, and cook and clean and tend the lawn, dontcha know?

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-12-11   11:33:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

You Republicans never learn

Good rant Vic!!

The republicans must be punished - all of them - every office, every election, without end.

I personally think the concept of a "new" party is as pointless as the last dozen or so attempts, but I'll certainly have your back on the "walk out en- masse" movement! You can do it!!

Jameson  posted on  2017-12-11   12:37:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jameson (#6)

Good rant Vic!!

The republicans must be punished - all of them - every office, every election, without end.

I personally think the concept of a "new" party is as pointless as the last dozen or so attempts, but I'll certainly have your back on the "walk out en- masse" movement! You can do it!!

Thanks.

But while I think the Republican Party needs a dressing down, the problem with "every office, every election, without end", but no "new" party MEANS that the Democrat Party will win every election and rule the roost from here on out.

And that means no end to the babykilling, religious rights ridden down under the feet of transsexualism, very heavy taxes on the upper middle class and striving managerial class, but not the connected super-rich, a wide open border and replacement of the American population with Latin Americans, hate crime and discrimination crime and sexual harassment laws that effectively impose apartheid on white males, and on and on it goes.

We already let the Democrats have everything and run the show for a little while under Obama. That was not a pleasant situation. What we need to see happen is a new party, or a revolt and full takeover of the Republicans.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-12-11   13:17:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#11)

but no "new" party MEANS that the Democrat Party will win every election and rule the roost from here on out.

That is an incorrect opinion.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-12-11   13:24:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#14. To: A K A Stone (#12)

Sure - IF the Republicans could change. But they don't. Trump won, and that's great. But the GOP Congress has blocked his agenda, and advanced theirs.

They have until the end of next summer to pull through and deliver the people what we elected him for. So far, not good.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-12-11 13:30:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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